Roquila 1,335 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I'm also struggling to see the vast improvement we've made this season as well. We're still third like we were last season despite Man Utd's epic collapse. We struggled in a piss easy CL group and we got knocked out in the the League Cup by the worst team in the League.The same Mata the Mourinho fanboys are eager to trash and get rid of in favour that wanker Rooney, (that will be 30 next season) helped us win the (elusive) Champions League, Fa Cup and Europa League in his first two seasons. All of a sudden he's a liability that can't even start against a Championship team.All because we're third in the League and won games without him in the team. Liverpool have a better record without Suarez in the team, did they make the wrong choice not selling him to Arsenal in the summer instead of building the team around Sturridge & Coutinho?Last year = 3rd 12 points(not sure) far away from top. Lost the Super Cup. Lost in the final of CWC. Out of CL in the group stages. Out of FA Cup in the semis. Out of the League cup. Lost Community Shield. Won Europa league.This year = 3rd 2 points away from top. Lost the Super Cup(against the best team in the world). Out of League cup(yes , this was bad) Still in CL. Still in FA Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Mata is going nowhere, just another clueless rumor by UK media.However, if somebody´s willing to pay 37m for him, it´s a sale, in my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Hazard? Where has Hazard come from you dilisional moron?think he was being sarcastic, at least i hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 think he was being sarcastic, at least i hope so.Even for the purpose of saracasm there was no need to bring Hazard in to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Even for the purpose of saracasm there was no need to bring Hazard in to it.Is there any need for you to insult people again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Is there any need for you to insult people again ?We've been through this already in PM.You threw your toys out the pram and was going to block and ignore me remember? Cute. The only place to be, Jype and Shane 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 We will NOT sell Juan simply because if we do, we will need to get another attacking midfielder before the window ends. Letting KDB go meant that Jose wants Mata here, at least until the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 We've been through this already in PM.You threw your toys out the pram and was going to block and ignore me remember? Cute.Just to remind you, DO NOT INSULT ANYBODY ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I suggest people take a long hard look at whether they are Chelsea fans or Juan Mata fans here.Fair enough if you want a player to play, I want him to play too, But criticizing Mourinho, a man who has lead this team to beat City, Liverpool, Arsenal and United this season is clearly not justified with his results. Roquila, Barbara, The only place to be and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted January 21, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 21, 2014 Just to remind you, DO NOT INSULT ANYBODY !Wanker. Shane, The Skipper, Milan and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Wanker.Cannot cut the mustard.Do you have any view on Mata or are you going to drivel here again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I'm also struggling to see the vast improvement we've made this season as well. We're still third like we were last seasonWe have our highest points tally in the league since the ancelloti era. Vast improvement this season in that aspect. And this season even though we've lost some games, the only team that outplayed us in a match so far is basel and bayern (in extratime). If I bring out the list of last season, we won't finish today.All because we're third in the League and won games without him in the team. Liverpool have a better record without Suarez in the team, did they make the wrong choice not selling him to Arsenal in the summer instead of building the team around Sturridge & Coutinho?Mourinho fixed one annoying problem we had last season. We could never win any match anytime mata didn't play or if mata was on bad form. Our system was dependent on giving mata total freedom. The right system for a top team to depend on people or give freedom, are for stikers who score at the rate of a goal a game.(Messi, ronaldo, suarez, ibrahimovic). And on top of this, high pressure system has proven to be very successful in the last few years (barca under guardiola, athletico madrid now, dortmund, bayern last season, even Brazil NT do this) We are adopting it which is the better system for the future and I'm sure we will reap the rewards in years to come. Barbara, zolayes and Term-X 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Even though, I always liked Mata, but the team depended on him too much. When he played well, the team won.This season Jose made changes & Mata has not adapted to it yet.Those who think, Mata is hard done by Jose, I suggest to review the games when Mata had played.Currently, Jose can not or will not bench Hazard, Oscar or William just to play Mata. In my view, Jose is correct.Whether he will be sold I do not know. However, he ought to be sold, but in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Never going to happen unless we're replacing him with someone on his level and is more of a Mourinho player e.g. Reus. The chances of that happening are very slim indeed.We won't sign a striker simply because we've already let KDB go. We would go from having too many AMs, to having too little for the rest of the season. One injury and we could be fucked from overplaying 3 of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Would Ronaldo, Iniesta, Messi, Silva, Ozil or Ibra get into this team considering they don't track back and win tackles? That seems to be the only argument against Mata it seems.Iniesta doesn't press now? Have you watched Barca in the last decade? Their pressing game was a massive part of their success and EVERY player contributed to it. Iniesta statistically makes TWICE the number of tackles as Mata does per match.I cannot believe my fucking eyes. A Chelsea supporter said Oscar can dictate a game better than Mata? I would love a list of games where Oscar ran the show. Try the early season matches where he racked up MOTM awards most weeks, or more recently the Southampton game where he dominated. The guy is still young as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 We will NOT sell Juan simply because if we do, we will need to get another attacking midfielder before the window ends. Letting KDB go meant that Jose wants Mata here, at least until the end of the season.Exactly. Unless we immediately use the cash to go and get Reus or get Rooney in exchange than it makes no sense to sell him for straight cash. Might not effect us much this season but I'd absolutely dread playing United with Mata in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 LOL. Typical Mourinho Zealot. Not even going to bother rebutting this garbage post.Our manager is not infallible people.Not 'infallible'?, well no shit, mind blowing logic here from Gilvorak, listen to this guy folks..Mourinho Zealot / Mata Zealot [or insert another Zola esc 'one man team' player here]We can discredit people all day long with titles, I only see arguments and going by yours.. maybe it's time to stick to making & editing videos. The only place to be, Barbara and Peace. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 We will NOT sell Juan simply because if we do, we will need to get another attacking midfielder before the window ends. Letting KDB go meant that Jose wants Mata here, at least until the end of the season. But if we could get another attacking midfielder in (one who might actually get a game for us), he could leave. Letting KDB go was a result of Mourinho not wanting to use him currently and him wanting to go. I'm not saying he will go but if Monaco or PSG joined the fun then who knows. The big issue could be the Champions League, although I don't think it's the biggest priority at the moment. The league and building for the future seem to be the most important focuses for our club, or maybe I'm wrong.LOL. Typical Mourinho Zealot. Not even going to bother rebutting this garbage post.Our manager is not infallible people.He's not infallible, but he is unique for us fans. We don't get another shot with Mourinho. There's a special bond with him and he seems to be getting results for us and most of us want him to stick around because he's a top manager. We've beaten Liverpool, Man City and Man United at home. We're undefeated at Old Trafford, White Hart Lane and the Emirates yet because he hasn't picked one player, he's getting stick from certain quarters. People aren't happy with the 'system' he's using so they're going to throw their toys out of the pram and be sarcastic in a completely dull manner. Yes we finished third last year but the mood at the Bridge was utterly shit - he's brought people's smiles back. The atmosphere has changed completely, but there's always berks on the internet ready to moan about the most insignificant shit. Term-X and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Wanker.Sam, behave please. We Hate Scouse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Exactly. Unless we immediately use the cash to go and get Reus or get Rooney in exchange than it makes no sense to sell him for straight cash. Might not effect us much this season but I'd absolutely dread playing United with Mata in the future.Reus plays on the left wing we already have Eden over there so where will Reus play?Is he effective on the right wing as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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