BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Lol. This isn't Fifa or Football Manager. Lukaku won't magically become an amazing striker when he reaches a certain age."Oh, today's my 23rd birthday. Time to become a world-beater!".The "he's only 19" is literally the poorest excuse when it comes to 'defending' him. (not that anyone was attacking him to begin with; just stating the obvious.)Take age out of the equation - what does he do well? What does he bring to a team? He's very strong. And....You knew Falcao will be so good when he was 19? I bet you didnt even know about him...There is nothing more important for strikers, but experience. Nothing. Drogba was just a kid until 26...There are strikers that are good when they are young, and there are strikers who get better when they realy grow up. I would be happy if I had to wait until he is 26 (7 years) and then Lukaku had same effect to club as Drogba, you wouldnt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Lukaku is nothing like Drogba, completely different strikers actually. Drogba was a real team player upfront, everyone scored goals around him and he was involved in almost every damn goal. He also has a great determination, hence his big game record.There's some players you just can't change, look at Mario Balotelli, if he changed all his attitude and became a good guy, he would be a totally different player and for me he would be worse. His mentallity is getting back at people and proving people wrong, that's how he gets his goals, that's why he stands still when he scores and says a big fuck you to all the haters. Drogba used to sulk at times, sometimes never got involved in the team pre training because he used to be that pissed off, for example Carlo in the 2nd season, it was about december when he was like that, against that copenhagen.Though i think mentallity can determine a player, my point is Lukaku has a completely different one to Drogba, i feel Lukaku is the one who will stay quiet and keep his frustration inside if there is any. But that also seems to keep him in good spirit and hope, like he is at West Brom, he's grateful for his minutes and enjoying his time there, playing with the team and not being too greedy to try and impress Chelsea. He's actually working for Steve Clark in the way he wants him to.But in terms of a player, Lukaku will get you more goals than Drogba, Lukaku seems to be more of a goal scoring striker, his finishing and movement is actually very good despite a lot of missed chances at West Brom, i assure you when he's in his prime he will be scoring for fun from all angles and troubling defences. However i would expect him to be more of a Mario Gomez, not completely failing in big games, but not coming to life in them either. Like i doubt he will be able to raise his game, he seems more of the consistent in his own way type. Completely different striker to Drogs though, but he's a lot better than Drogba in some ways, under Roman we are still yet to have a striking goal machine. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Lol. This isn't Fifa or Football Manager. Lukaku won't magically become an amazing striker when he reaches a certain age."Oh, today's my 23rd birthday. Time to become a world-beater!".The "he's only 19" is literally the poorest excuse when it comes to 'defending' him. (not that anyone was attacking him to begin with; just stating the obvious.)Take age out of the equation - what does he do well? What does he bring to a team? He's very strong. And....I think that was what Drogba said or maybe it was his 24th birthday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Lol. This isn't Fifa or Football Manager. Lukaku won't magically become an amazing striker when he reaches a certain age."Oh, today's my 23rd birthday. Time to become a world-beater!".The "he's only 19" is literally the poorest excuse when it comes to 'defending' him. (not that anyone was attacking him to begin with; just stating the obvious.)Take age out of the equation - what does he do well? What does he bring to a team? He's very strong. And....You do know that's a stupid reason Leif, every player has potential, no one turns suddenly good, and it's not like Lukaku is dreadful infact he's very good.Lets say if we never heard of Lukaku not even once, we didn't even buy him, West Brom signed him at the start of the season from some 5th belgian division or something. And if he was playing like he did, admit it most people on this forum would be wanting him and saying he's something special. He's been playing really good for his age, and he will only get better. Stats and Atholy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 If he wasnt our player, I bet everyone would want him here, saying 'oh look at that beast! And he is only 19!'You had far too big expectations for him when we bought him and that's it. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 when we bought him I assumed we would want to use him in 2 or 3 years time . nothing has changed , I am sure he has a future with US RamiCFC9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Problem is some people expected Lukaku to be as good as Drogba in his prime after maybe a season or two. He's still 19, has plenty of time to mature and define himself as a player. People crave for us to sign young prodigies but when we actually do they almost automatically get written off after one or two bad performances. It's bad. zolayes, Stats and Kezza 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Tbh, I think he came to the PL too young. And last year's lack of minutes set back his development a huge deal. But to right him off already is so hypocritical by us. I mean we moan and moan about not promoting young players to the starting XI and then go and slate them at every mistake..even when those mistakes are not affecting our team at all! The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I'm in favour of bringing him back. He's performing in the same league against the same teams we play. He'd come here and in all probability be the best striker in the squad so don't see many negatives.Think it's unlikely but I wouldn't be opposed.Torres and Sturridge are both better than him though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyflashman 187 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Torres and Sturridge are both better than him though?On current form I would respectfully disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Lukaku is nothing like Drogba, completely different strikers actually. Drogba was a real team player upfront, everyone scored goals around him and he was involved in almost every damn goal. He also has a great determination, hence his big game record.There's some players you just can't change, look at Mario Balotelli, if he changed all his attitude and became a good guy, he would be a totally different player and for me he would be worse. His mentallity is getting back at people and proving people wrong, that's how he gets his goals, that's why he stands still when he scores and says a big fuck you to all the haters. Drogba used to sulk at times, sometimes never got involved in the team pre training because he used to be that pissed off, for example Carlo in the 2nd season, it was about december when he was like that, against that copenhagen.Though i think mentallity can determine a player, my point is Lukaku has a completely different one to Drogba, i feel Lukaku is the one who will stay quiet and keep his frustration inside if there is any. But that also seems to keep him in good spirit and hope, like he is at West Brom, he's grateful for his minutes and enjoying his time there, playing with the team and not being too greedy to try and impress Chelsea. He's actually working for Steve Clark in the way he wants him to.But in terms of a player, Lukaku will get you more goals than Drogba, Lukaku seems to be more of a goal scoring striker, his finishing and movement is actually very good despite a lot of missed chances at West Brom, i assure you when he's in his prime he will be scoring for fun from all angles and troubling defences. However i would expect him to be more of a Mario Gomez, not completely failing in big games, but not coming to life in them either. Like i doubt he will be able to raise his game, he seems more of the consistent in his own way type. Completely different striker to Drogs though, but he's a lot better than Drogba in some ways, under Roman we are still yet to have a striking goal machine.True. Drogba's character is as strong as his physique. Kojo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Lukaku has done much better if anything, i honeslty thought he should've went to the Championship as i didn't think he could cut the premier league just yet, but damnit he's proved me wrong. mediator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Torres and Sturridge are both better than him though?On current form I think he would put in a better shift than both Torres and Sturridge considering he is getting quite a few goals at WBA and looking quite threatening up front and with our creative players I am sure he would even take more advantage of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 On current form I think he would put in a better shift than both Torres and Sturridge considering he is getting quite a few goals at WBA and looking quite threatening up front and with our creative players I am sure he would even take more advantage of thatMaybe Torres, but Lukaku wouldn't get games if Sturridge isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 I'm no Torres fan, but he has 7 goals, Lukaku is in and out of a West Brom side with 3 goals. Sturridge hasn't been given a proper chance yet but right now I'd also prefer him over Lukaku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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