Romelu Lukaku

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4 minutes ago, Tomo said:

At this point I would put Arsenal and Spurs in the lesser game category if we're talking purely levels.

24 points from 4 closest teams around us whoever that might be, Point still remains.

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29 minutes ago, Warning_Hazard said:

So is your narrative of blaming one of the supposedly best squads in world football as the reason for lukaku playing utter dog doo and only scoring against recently promoted sides and a dire spurs ffs.

Some of you should be football agents because you dont half have a knack of talking absolute rollox to try and convince the masses!!

 

I dont know what your reading, you’ve taken my post completely in the wrong way. Or just tried to funnel it into something it isnt….

Someone said Lukaku has disrupted the likes of Havertz, Ziyech, Pulisic, Werner etc but have they done anything of note this season? Did they perform outstandingly last season as well in periods? No. Also, is the attack this season not functioning amazingly solely on Lukaku’s shoulders? Obviously its not. But that seems to be the narrative. The attacking problem is a collective one, clearly, from Lukaku and the 2 off him to the wingbacks as well not being to the level they should be offensively and even in midfield lacking a bit more creativity.

I said we lacked chemistry in attack and the combinations we have tried so far the last 2 games haven’t really worked. Where did I say Lukaku was only shit because of the others? I mean if you use your eyes and read everything instead of jumping to conclusions based on maybe misinterpreting a sentence, trust me you’ll not find that.

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41 minutes ago, Warning_Hazard said:

Know what youre saying but to sign a £97m striker to hope he scores against lesser teams when theres 24 points up for grabs against our rivals, Seems like a bit of a joke at this point tbh.

So you're saying is there are 24 points up for grabs against the so called 'rivals' but that also means there's 90 points up for grabs against everyone else in the league. The league title will be decided on how many points the team get from the other 90 rather than results against the rivals.

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2 minutes ago, Jype said:

So you're saying is there are 24 points up for grabs against the so called 'rivals' but that also means there's 90 points up for grabs against everyone else in the league. The league title will be decided on how many points the team get from the other 90 rather than results against the rivals.

Precisely.

I think under Tuchel our big game records not really the issue (despite the two losses this last 2 games v City, Juve), its the smaller sides that we dropped more points against. 

Jose’s first season back in his second spell here was as good an indicator also, if you can get points v the big teams (think we took points of City, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool and United) but drop points v the smaller teams due to not being able to convert chances etc, you’re not going to win league titles.

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1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

Precisely.

I think under Tuchel our big game records not really the issue (despite the two losses this last 2 games v City, Juve), its the smaller sides that we dropped more points against. 

Jose’s first season back in his second spell here was as good an indicator also, if you can get points v the big teams (think we took points of City, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool and United) but drop points v the smaller teams due to not being able to convert chances etc, you’re not going to win league titles.

I cant see that neckbeards posts but I can from your reply, You both forget about rivals ALSO winning most of their games against the lower teams!!!

Who was the last team to win the PL and not beat any other challengers?

Man city are probably the closet to that but this year its much much closer jut look at the table!

Im giving it until xmas either way
 

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19 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

I think as limited as our attack has looked, to say Lukaku has harmed or prevented Werner, Pulisic, Havertz etc from developing or playing better is utter bullshit, frankly.

I mean Havertz has played regularly this season and hasn't convinced entirely. Werner played virtually every game last season under 2 managers and hardly fully convinced consistently bar one wee spell of games with Tuchel. He isn’t on the bench for nothing. 

The real problem is who is the best 2 to play off of Lukaku in that 3421. 100% we need someone who has pace enough and can play in 1 v 1s in that front 3 and its fair to say Mount is as inevitable a big a miss as you can have. Maybe Pulisic-Lukaku-Mount has to be tried, or dare I say it, playing a back 4 with 2 actual wingers and Mount at number 10? Big problem with our attack is we actually lack multiple players with pace to open up spaces as well as seeing poor chemistry between the attackers. The balance isn’t right. Look at how Conte used Lukaku with Martinez, thats two players who suited playing off one another because their skillsets complimented each other. I am not entirely sure what Ziyech and Kai brought to the table playing off of Rom.

You kinda answered your own question regarding the criticism of the inclusion of Lukaku there.

As legit as the complaints of the poor finishing was last season, the system then was never just about one player. It was also constantly fluid because players were always on the move, they were constantly interchanging and not giving the opposition a reference point etc.

Now, as much as a goalscorer Lukaku is, we're having to throw whatever we built last season under Tuchel to focus all on one player and that's Lukaku. The system, the balance suddenly doesn't look right because we now have a #9, a reference point which can make it easier for opponents to stop us. Everything now has to be catered to his needs (who to use beside him, what to do to create chances for him etc), as opposed to what we saw last season.

Maybe Havertz will come good or maybe not but have you wondered why he was doing well last season and not this season? Last season, he was either playing as a False 9 or behind a ST who actually moves, which allows him to also move, attack spaces, find openings etc. This season, he's having to play behind a static #9, a reference point and everything has to be catered towards that #9. And not to mention, it's worth wondering whether Havertz is a creator as he's supposedly only created 1 big chance in the Premier League since the start of last season. 

And by the way, didn't you say that you saw Havertz has improved or is showing improvement earlier this season? 

19 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Hopefully this chemistry comes over time, its only 8 or 9 games into the season in all comps. Whilst there has been alarming signs the last 2 games, the other games weren’t half as bad as being made out. Tuchel even said after Villa IIRC and other games we weren’t where we needed to be. 

Sure, time will tell but the other games weren't half as bad as being made out? We played 6 games (IIRC) in September and we played well in only one half - the second 45 mins at Spurs. Everything that happened in the last two games had been coming. 

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9 hours ago, Mana said:

Key thing here is, ignore CR7.

Look where Lukaku is.

That’s bad.

Why do you think I posted it on Lukaku thread? 

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9 hours ago, Mana said:

Key thing here is, ignore CR7.

Look where Lukaku is.

That’s bad.

And Saint-Maximin, with whom we're linked. Him and Lukaku together would kill all of our pressing game.

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1 hour ago, Hermione said:

Werner silencing the Lukaku defenders, this guy is starting to get on my nerves to be honest.

Atleast you didnt get abused name called and made to look a fool for not jumping on the king rom band wagon!

He had it on a plate couple times today and duffed it up

 

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Wow I knew Rom doesnt press like Timo but looking at that.. oof...

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Even after the 9th time of watching I am not sure how he managed to get it into the post from 3m and central position. That was a miss worse than Timo’s vs Leeds 

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46 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Even after the 9th time of watching I am not sure how he managed to get it into the post from 3m and central position. That was a miss worse than Timo’s vs Leeds 

There is a curse with Chelsea and our strikers.

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1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

There is a curse with Chelsea and our strikers.

It's as simple as the ball came in with some pace, 90% of the time if u get a touch it goes in 9% keeper saves it 1% chance u hit the post like that, am not defending lukaku was a poor miss but how unlucky do u have to be for that to hit the post.

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50 minutes ago, Mana said:

This is why I said earlier that people jumped in too early with the flat track bully stuff.

He may not be even that. Yesterday was perfect for a flat track bully like Lukaku and the best he did was hit the post from a very close range.

If Lukaku is going to end up having like 10 PL goals, then we should have never bought him. Because the trio sacrifice that we did for Lukaku just wouldn’t have been worth it.

It’s like Lukaku’s honeymoon is over and he cannot now score goals.

He also held up the ball really well in the second half and laid it off to Werner who unfortunately could not finish. But that was great strength and awareness from Lukaku who should of had assist to his name. Was not his best game but let's not act like he was completely invisible.