Tibou55 0 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 10 hours ago, LAM09 said: Â Large number of people here write players off when they aren't even in the 18, as you said. Something's don't change Michy scored over 20+ in a poor Marseille side prior to joining us, so I wouldn't have any doubt in him delivering. Europe would be the only question mark, but what has Lukaku done on that front? Miss a PK in the Super Cup. Â Top scorer in europa league 2014-2015...? Lukaku => C1 + C3 : M = 31; G = 16; KP = 7 Not so bad... Batsman => C1 + C3 : M = 25; G = 7; KP = 3 Costa => C1 + C3 : M = 37; G = 14; KP = 4 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I read a lot of people are against Lukaku's signing. Of course the money we will have to pay is a huge risk but we have to trust in Conte. Also in Lukaku. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,054 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 7 hours ago, Tibou55 said: Top scorer in europa league 2014-2015...? Lukaku => C1 + C3 : M = 31; G = 16; KP = 7 Not so bad... Batsman => C1 + C3 : M = 25; G = 7; KP = 3 Costa => C1 + C3 : M = 37; G = 14; KP = 4 Â We're not a EL side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibou55 0 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 22 minutes ago, LAM09 said: We're not a EL side You question his "Europe's" abilities, I give you this. Plus, C1 => M=4, G =3. He can't be worse than Costa for sure in Champion's league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekin 835 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I think that it is very important to remember that Lukaku is still not a finished product. Conte is a disciplinarian putting a lot of effort into getting the most of his players. The Guardian had a good article on some of his training methods, such as performing shadow play during training (playing a game without a ball, practising movement and passing instinct). Maybe going back to Chelsea will allow him to take the last steps towards becoming world class? The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,054 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 21 minutes ago, Tibou55 said: You question his "Europe's" abilities, I give you this. Plus, C1 => M=4, G =3. He can't be worse than Costa for sure in Champion's league. Not sure what Costa's numbers are for us, but didn't he knock us out at Stamford Bridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Â positivefootball, Supermonkey92 and Tautvix 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Romelu Lukaku has scored more PL goals (85) than: • Cristiano Ronaldo - 84 • Tevez - 84 • Bellamy - 81 • Kane - 78 • Suarez - 69 Lukaku is 24! Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 36 minutes ago, the wes said:  Yeah he's still horrible at times. If people was frustrated with Costa link up play then lukaku even worse. We are getting Rob for that amount of money. Tautvix, The Chels and Supermonkey92 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Fernando said: Yeah he's still horrible at times. If people was frustrated with Costa link up play then lukaku even worse. We are getting Rob for that amount of money. Lukaku is all about goals. If he scores, he plays good. If he doesn't score, he is frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, Fernando said: Yeah he's still horrible at times. If people was frustrated with Costa link up play then lukaku even worse. We are getting Rob for that amount of money. If we want a striker with better link up play morata or Aubameyang is the striker we should sign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 1 hour ago, milka said: Romelu Lukaku has scored more PL goals (85) than: • Cristiano Ronaldo - 84 • Tevez - 84 • Bellamy - 81 • Kane - 78 • Suarez - 69 Lukaku is 24! In how many games? Hasn't he been playing since 19? I'm sure he's played a whole season or 2 more than Kane. How does he compare to Rooney from 19-24?  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 42 minutes ago, Fernando said: Yeah he's still horrible at times. If people was frustrated with Costa link up play then lukaku even worse. We are getting Rob for that amount of money. Really fucking robbed. Not just 100m (which we aren't stupid enough to pay i hope) but anything over 60m (that's including his contract situation and those prats Everton). If you just go on the price of his worth without the negitiation bs, is anyone going to go over 50m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 On 6/8/2017 at 8:00 PM, Chelsea Legend 11 said: Brilliant video here illustrating how much he's improved at Everton Great video. Adding it to my Lukaku ammunition. THIS IS MORATA V LUKAKU. THIS IS CIVIL WAR Chelsea Legend 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 On 6/8/2017 at 6:33 AM, Hybrid Angel said:  Personally I was one of Lukaku's biggest critics for the longest time. I always believed that the technical deficiencies in his game would prevent him from being a top player and he could never improve his abilities in this aspect substantially. However he's slowly and gradually proved me wrong. At this moment of time it's pretty clear that he is better than Costa technically and also possesses a higher football IQ. His awareness of space and movement of teammates relative to his position in or around the box is also a big improvement since his time at Chelsea. He's very good at being the striker who receives the ball in his feet and makes a sharp turn, using his strength and speed.  Then he can open his above average vision for a striker to find teammates or make something happen himself. I never understood the similarities to Drogba around the time when Mourinho arrived for the second time. Aside from the fact that they are both big and black strikers, there really weren't any other similarities. Drogba's biggest quality that Lukaku never had at the was the intelligence to use his strength effectively. Imo Romelu was and still is a physically stronger player than Drogba. However, if you watched both play around that time you'd think that Drogba is the stronger player in a sense that he used his strength to shield and hold up the ball way more effectively. But now Lukaku has grown a lot in this aspect. He uses body much better than he did before and alongside his improved technique, he's edging closer and closer towards becoming a perfect striker. You can see what I'm talking about in this newly posted Youtube video:  As you can see, his combination use of his body and the ball have improved drastically.  People often complain that he struggles using these in big games, but as @The Skipper mentioned it's fairly obvious that Everton play very defensively in big games and look for scraps up top. In these type of situations it's very harsh to judge a striker's performance and abilities. But even then, if you look at the table I posted above or the statistic that @pHaRaOn posted you'll see that he's managed to have a very solid big game record in his CV. I think this record will improve even more if/when he comes to Chelsea and he'll become a hit here, comfortably scoring 20+ goals in the league if our season goes relatively well. Top post. Almost an identical feeling for me. If you don't let your emotions come into play, and actually look at this rationally, even if you don't like the player, you can't honestly say he's as bad as some try to make him seem on here, and on Twitter. Chelsea Legend 11, ulsterchelsea, Bernard N Y Burgesson and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Styles 9,790 Posted June 10, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted June 10, 2017 SMH. Getting rid of one donkey for another. I'm sick. Blue-in-me-Veins, Peace., DYC. and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted June 10, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted June 10, 2017 On June 8, 2017 at 10:42 PM, Thor said: I remember when we had strikers who weren't regular goalscorers... Now that we have one coming our way people are complaining and want the guy who isn't a regular goalscorer but helps us play nice football. Serious question. Who will score goals for us if not our striker? That is what sets the big teams apart. They all have that guy who can knock in 25 a season. Morata isn't and has never been that. Lukaku already is. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk  Gomez averaged a goal a game for Bayern in 11/12 yet dropping him for a player who doesn't even score half as much turned them into treble winners.  In my opinion Lukaku is going to have to hit Messi-Ronaldo figure's to make up for his flaws. Blue-in-me-Veins, Fernando, BlueLyon and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Peace. 4,352 Posted June 10, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted June 10, 2017 To be frank there is nothing impressive in that video and his "ultimate" skills are quite banal, to say the least. Not only that, but there are dozens of "skills" and moves that have genuinely nothing to do in a "skills compilation" video — and the fact that they are nonetheless included speaks volume about the technical abilities of the said player. He may be a good goalscorer but he is also an average football player. Here, he will most likely get the goals yet will not improve whatsoever the team as a whole, which is kind of problematic isn't it. This is not the profil of player that top teams should target to lead their front line — or to play anywhere within the starting eleven, for that matter —, but alas we seem to be unable to shot above that height... DYC., Fernando, Blue-in-me-Veins and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 I think he's far better than costa who played from January. But is behind the costa we saw at the beginning of the season.  I'm not as bothered about his first touch as many here, from what I can remember, costa was worse imo, terrible at holding the ball Infact and we still won the league with 93 points. What I don't like the most about lukaku is this I think his runs off the ball is poor, and I think he doesn't move enough to create angles for passing and putting off defenders.  But I'll give him the benefit of a doubt and say maybe the midfielders he's been playing with at Everton and westbrom are terrible passers and couldn't locate him with accurate passes so he didn't make sprints behind because of that. Tautvix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted June 10, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted June 10, 2017 41 minutes ago, Styles said: SMH. Getting rid of one donkey for another. I'm sick. Costa may be shit technically but his movement to shift defenses all over the shop is a key reason why we only dropped 7 points in 26 games vs flat track sides. Lukaku has no movement or tactical awareness in the build up that i really fear we will have more 13/14 like frustration's trying to break down lesser sides. Beigl, Rapkun, DYC. and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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