Diego 433 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 If by the end of the window we have Costa, Torres and Drogba as our options i wont be particularly hopeful. It would put huge pressure on costa and he would need to play nearly every game. I cant see Drogba (as much as i wish) doing much especially if he had to start the match. And Torres is er well Torres The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Where habe they gotten better? Seriously?Caballero is a good signing for them cos he is a decent back up GK. courtois is a redundant move cos cech is not joe hart who got dropped for mistake after mistake.Fernando is a squad signing but something they dearly needed. A good back up to yaya-fernandinho rather than falling straight back to garcia/rodwell.Mangala is a no-brainer. I can't see them losing to the likes of cardiff (or burnley this year as analogy) and have a pathetic away form to start with.We had a 4 point gap on top of 2 wins over them to begin with. We had to win against them this window to lessen the gap. And nowhere did I say that they have performed better than us in the window. We have been downright exceptoonal in this window so far. Getting costa, fab, luis and Dd for a net expenditure of 20mil (or less) is a great deal. But that doea not mean I can't say that city tok have gotten better, cos they have.So, they have signed three decent squad players and one starter whereas we have improved massively by adding four amazing players to be starters (Costa, Fabregas, Luis, Courtois) and a bunch of good squad players (Drogba, Van Ginkel, Romeu, Zouma). Then we also have fully adjusted and cup-eligible players in Matic, Salah and like we all know Mourinho's teams are always better the second time around so we can easily expect more from all the others as well.I wasn't saying City haven't gotten a little better, because they have addressed some problems in their squad even though none of the players they've signed so far would make our team, but it's way too pessimistic to be thinking they've somehow become unbeatable after signing average squad players like Sagna and Fernando because in reality we weren't all that much worse than them even last season and we've improved enough to easily get 10 more point if things go our way. Whether that's enough for the title or not remains to be seen, but at the moment I only see us having improved enormously and I will much rather be happy about our chances than all doom and gloom. Living your life that way must be hard... The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 This was why I did not want Drogba to come back, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Has this been posted here? Apologies if so. Some fan to Martinez on Everton's pre-season tour : "Robbie, are we getting Rom?"Martinez : "Of course, of course we'll get him." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Where have they gotten better exactly? As of now they have got Caballero, Sagna, Fernando and judging by the leaked video presentation Mangala is about to join too. Mangala is a good signing for them and improves their central defense but the rest are squad players at best.They got Caballero, we got CourtoisThey got Sagna, we got Filipe LuisThey got Fernando, we got FabregasWe also got Costa and Drogba to replace Eto'o and Ba plus Van Ginkel and Romeu to replace Lampard.Don't know about you but I would say we are winning them so far in the transfer window.City didn't really need to buy this window.Chelsea and the rest of the epl did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Even if Lukaku leaves, I still feel we have at least a good a squad, or even better a squad than Man City, but our attack once again is left depleted quality wise.Goalkeepers : Cech and Courtois is certainly better than Hart and Caballero.Defence : Filipe Luis, JT, Cahill and Azpilicueta + Ivanovic just might be the most solid back four in Europe. It edges out Kolarov, Kompany, Mangala and Zabaleta + Sagna. Mangala, while he may be a great athlete is prone to make mistakes and Kolarov is a good attacking LB but Luis is much more solid than him. Azpilicueta right now is probably slightly better than Pablo "I like to get f**ed by Hazard" Zabaleta. Midfield : Matic, Ramires, Fabregas, van Ginkel, Hazard, Oscar, Schurrle, Willian, Mikel and Romeu is just simply incredible, one of the top 3 best in Europe. It has every single quality you want in a midfield. It's better than Fernando, Fernandinho, Toure, Silva, Nasri, Milner, Navas and Garcia. It has more variety and quality than Man City's midfield. Attack (without Lukaku) : Costa, Torres and Drogba is simply not as impressive as Aguero, Dzeko, Negredo and Jovetic. Those 4 are much better than Torres and Drogba. A guy like Aguero if he stays fit this season is just as deadly as Luis Suarez in my opinion. Now, if this wasn't Costa's first season, it will be a different story. I don'y expect him to start many, many games his first season. He will need time to adapt to the pace and intensity of the league. We have better goalkeepers, defence and midfield than Man City but they are easily stronger in attack. And we saw last season with Liverpool how a superb strike-force can carry an above average team to greatness. We saw it with Man United in Fergie's last season there. Better GKs and thats it....Midfield is a wash and healthy city backline>chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 if we sell him and get a technical, young striker in (icardi? or someone else) than I am happy. if we stay with Torres and Drogba, well, then we are f-ed. we should pray to god that Costa wont get injured/tired the whole season, because we have no strikers left. I cant believe that Mou would put faith in those both, so I really hope we'll sign someone if Lukaku leaves if not, Mou seems to get emotions over rational thinking in terms of Drogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Sell Lukaku, buy Bony/Remy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 And in three years we come back with offer of 50m...brilliant Chelsea as allways selling our top young players.... Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 24m deal very close to being agreed, looks like he is going for good without scoring a goal for Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Sell Lukaku, buy Bony/Remy.sell HG and buy another non HG? just makes things harder still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 sell HG and buy another non HG? just makes things harder still.It looks like he doesn't want to extend his contract, so he must go. Next thing is to get rid of Torres and get a decent back up for Costa which Remy and Bony are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted July 29, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted July 29, 2014 He also happens to be a homegrown player as well, a quota we're struggling to fill now. 32 goals in 66 PL games. 1 goal every 2 games and he's only 21. No player his age even comes close to that. Torres on the other hand has 21 goals in 110 PL games and is 30. Drogba at 36 was deemed not good enough for bloody Galatasaray.. Yep, makes sense to let him go. Just a few months ago, this same player said we're the "biggest club in England" "he wants to play here" "Chelsea have a good coach".http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2646047/Romelu-Lukaku-insists-wants-stay-Chelsea-despite-uncertainty.htmlThe question is what has gone wrong in the space of June to August? I'm not going to bash the player yet because it seems that Mourinho simply doesn't want him.Now, even if we want to sign a replacement, we are still left with the problem of Torres. Drogba also compounds that problem since he's not home-grown.P.S : I don't care about his so-called attitude. He's only 21 and that can be improved upon. Besides, different players have different personalities. It will be a massive failure on our part, akin to Man Utd selling Pogba to Juve or us selling Sturridge to Liverpool. mediator, Stats, Zazard and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMox81 193 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 How can anyone blame the club for this when he went to West Brom in a loan which everyone deemed as good for him to gain experience and then last season he engineered his own loan to further his own chances to make the Belgian squad for the WC.....Where are the quotes from him saying that he wants to be part of the team this season? That he wants to fight for his opportunity? Nothing. The only place to be and Bluelsthecolour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel1980 1,425 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 He also happens to be a homegrown player as well, a quota we're struggling to fill now. 32 goals in 66 PL games. 1 goal every 2 games and he's only 21. No player his age even comes close to that. Torres on the other hand has 21 goals in 110 PL games and is 30. Drogba at 36 was deemed not good enough for bloody Galatasaray.. Yep, makes sense to let him go. Just a few months ago, this same player said we're the "biggest club in England" "he wants to play here" "Chelsea have a good coach".http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2646047/Romelu-Lukaku-insists-wants-stay-Chelsea-despite-uncertainty.htmlThe question is what has gone wrong in the space of June to August? I'm not going to bash the player yet because it seems that Mourinho simply doesn't want him.Now, even if we want to sign a replacement, we are still left with the problem of Torres. Drogba also compounds that problem since he's not home-grown.P.S : I don't care about his so-called attitude. He's only 21 and that can be improved upon. Besides, different players have different personalities. It will be a massive failure on our part, akin to Man Utd selling Pogba to Juve or us selling Sturridge to Liverpool. If we're really selling him, I believe it's a combination of these reasons:1) Lukaku doesn't want competition and wants to leave himself.2) Jose doesn't think he's good enough and thinks we don't need him. He would sell Lukaku for that reason, not because of his attitude. Jose is many things, but most of all, he wants to win. If he thought we needed Lukaku, he would have ignored Lukaku's attitude and talked him into staying. Hell, Jose bought Cesc, who publicly said Jose should "shut up" not so long ago. I doubt Jose had particularly warm feelings towards Cesc(and vice versa), but he disregarded his personal feelings because he clearly rates Cesc and thinks he's what we need. So he swallowed his pride and approached Cesc and was so convincing that "he gave Cesc a lift" and convinced him to join the direct rival of the team Cesc captained just a few years ago. Jose would have done the same with Lukaku and convinced him to stay if he thought he was good enough. IF. It seems he simply doesn't think Lukaku is that good to make an effort to keep him. couris, kellzfresh, The only place to be and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 How can anyone blame the club for this when he went to West Brom in a loan which everyone deemed as good for him to gain experience and then last season he engineered his own loan to further his own chances to make the Belgian squad for the WC.....Where are the quotes from him saying that he wants to be part of the team this season? That he wants to fight for his opportunity? Nothing.You know, I still have a two-year contract at the biggest club in England, because that's Chelsea. So I still hope to play there. Chelsea have a good coach.' seanptmiller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 If we're really selling him, I believe it's a combination of these reasons:1) Lukaku doesn't want competition and wants to leave himself.2) Jose doesn't think he's good enough and thinks we don't need him. He would sell Lukaku for that reason, not because of his attitude. Jose is many things, but most of all, he wants to win. If he thought we needed Lukaku, he would have ignored Lukaku's attitude and talked him into staying. Hell, Jose bought Cesc, who publicly said Jose should "shut up" not so long ago. I doubt Jose had particularly warm feelings towards Cesc(and vice versa), but he disregarded his personal feelings because he clearly rates Cesc and thinks he's what we need. So he swallowed his pride and approached Cesc and was so convincing that "he gave Cesc a lift" and convinced him to join the direct rival of the team Cesc captained just a few years ago. Jose would have done the same for Lukaku and convinced him to stay if he thought he was good enough. IF. It seems he simply doesn't think Lukaku is that good.I also don't think he's stupid. What is the possible justification in 2014 for thinking that Torres and Drogba are "good enough"? There isn't. Torres is literally one of the worst strikers in the league and Drogba is 36. . At the end of the day, Jose will have to live or die by this particular decision as it could end up costing him his job. Right now, it makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 can see this on being like letting Sturridge go, mannyfreshh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluelsthecolour 61 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 How can anyone blame the club for this when he went to West Brom in a loan which everyone deemed as good for him to gain experience and then last season he engineered his own loan to further his own chances to make the Belgian squad for the WC.....Where are the quotes from him saying that he wants to be part of the team this season? That he wants to fight for his opportunity? Nothing.Good post.The thing is, Romelu thinks he is good enough to lead our line to a (hopefully) PL and CL title. He cant deal with the fact that we bought Costa..Ive said it before and ill say it again, he isnt THAT good and will never be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 quoted from skysports live transfernews:Reports from Italy claim that Chelsea striker Romelu Lukaku looks set to remain in the Premier League this season, despite suggestions that Juventus were keen to land the Belgium striker on a loan deal.Lukaku’s Italian agent has been quoted as saying that the Blues will only be prepared to sanction a permanent switch to a rival English club for the forward, who spent the last two seasons out on loan with West Brom and Everton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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