Barbara 15,149 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Excuse me miss Barbara but he didn't have an awful match. His first half was indeed not very good but you can say the same for Hazard in the first half. From the Chelsea players on the field, Kevin was the best this night. Also, Lukaku played a better second half and yes indeed, he missed a very good chance ( I give you that, and you could maybe call it a sitter) but Benteke did exactly the same in our last national game, also on a pass from Kevin. I think you should not exaggerate, the boy is twenty and clearly head an shoulders above lots of others 20-year old strikers.Surely, he needs to improve but as I said, he did not have an awfull game.we disagree then, mate. I think he had a terrible match, but I'll give you that I didn't really pay much attention in the second half (more like the end of it). But I didn't miss the miss I'm not comparing him to any 20yo either. I just reported what I saw and my personal opinion on that. His age, others about the same age was never implicit or relevant to my point. Perception is subjective and so is expectation. It's not me exaggerating, it's me not being accommodating to him. I've just learned for Belgians there's a special level for Kevin performances in the NT and I guess the same can't be true to Lukaku. Which is why at first it would seem crazy to see more Belgians complaining about Kevin than Romelu when Kevin was much better in the match. So I guess we look at the player in a different way, in addition to having different opinions about his performance. My commentators had much worse words about him than I did, so I guess this is subjective.If you want exaggeration search Lukaku on twitter and your countrymen (and French) may have different opinions from what my poor French was able to catch and what my English, Spanish and even Portuguese caught. No Dutch for me though.To be honest I don't care about Benteke (I'm not being rude, just stating how I feel about Benteke, I know sometimes those written sentences sound much harsher than intended). As a Chelsea fan I was paying attention to our players, so that's my assessment of Lukaku's performance. It seems like AndrΓ© had a similar miss for Germany that could have given them the winner, so it seems like Torres isn't influencing only Romelu And don't be so defensive. A friendly's performance 4 days before the season starts is really irrelevant in the big scheme of things (both for Belgium and Chelsea). How good or bad Romelu or whoever was won't really tell much about their season. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 not good enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) wouldnt worry too much , many cfc lads had poor int friendlies. oscar was poor , cahill was lame , and i hear kdb and hazard were not particularly goodthats not good for chelsea is it? His hold up play is always ruined because of that first touch. How he hasn't tried to develop it is quite strange to me Edited August 14, 2013 by kellzfresh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan 14 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) i dont know witch game some off u saw, but he's first half was terribledidn't use he's body like he shouldAlways try to run with the ballAlways run in the space where the winger was trying to go to make the crossmy opinion off he's first half - Always in the wrong place at the right timesecond half -decent but not good enoughsomethimes i think he's football inteligence is poorhe doesn't watch what the defenders are doing and trying to anticipate to thatbut he is only 20 and offcourse he only thinks off scoring goals but he's trying to much,in overall our three players looked tired Edited August 14, 2013 by jan Barbara, kellzfresh and sureshot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christacinto 137 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Seriously people, some serious exaggerating going on here... Lukaku missed an open chance, check. The ball was, I daresay, played too hard, but that doesn't count. Check.His first half was bad, check. The fact he had Koscielny and Sagna breathing down his neck the whole time... doesn't count! check.Which I hardly read on here, however, is that his second half was very promising and he actually started outsmarting his defenders, linking up and creating chances for his teammates.He should get stick for his first half but the way he came out again has to count for something. I for one thought France was tough as nails and Belgium had a bad day, as a team!We still could and should've won though, but there's always Brasil for that Lukaku top scorer after this weekend, you heard it here first!; 5β¬ up for grabs to the first one who wants to bet on it! Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 he was shite, stop making excusesit doesn't help anyone Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouletje 82 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 lukaku had a poor game, i really want him to succeed and become one of the greatest ever but yesterday was a real poor performance.he was moved off the ball by a player half his strenght 3-4 times in that first half while lukaku was standing between the ball and the defender IMO that's something he really shouldn't allow, never in any defender's life should he be able to get a chance at touching a ball that has lukaku in between him and the ball.the two issues in that matter were that he was waiting for the ball too often, and that he failed to use his immense strength.second half he started well, but he missed that chance, well maybe it had too much pace who knows. but then benteke came in and there was suddenly alot more possession for the belgian team, because he did manage to hold a ball and he did manage to keep an impossible pass in the team.MoM was Kompany, the guy was amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 He did have a bad game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) he was shite, stop making excusesit doesn't help anyoneIt is called 'putting things in perspective', not making excuses :-) I hope that is still allowed on an internet forum Edited August 16, 2013 by Stingray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atholy 1,293 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Boys please...stop the We know what he's able off. So no need to start scouting reports of him after every single game!if he scores 2 goals against Hull this weekend, the friendly against France was as useless as: Stats, Mustafa and Despiadado.Maleante 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Why do people keep going on about his performance from 1 game? WOW! Annoying thing is there is about a whole page of complaints of his performance against France on the De Bruyne page itself. Give it a rest. He is young, improving and will have have bad performances as part of his learning curve. Not making excuses for him but yes it was a friendly so move on. His next game he will probably bag a couple anyway Atholy, Despiadado.Maleante, Jose M and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) lukaku had a poor game, i really want him to succeed and become one of the greatest ever but yesterday was a real poor performance.he was moved off the ball by a player half his strenght 3-4 times in that first half while lukaku was standing between the ball and the defender IMO that's something he really shouldn't allow, never in any defender's life should he be able to get a chance at touching a ball that has lukaku in between him and the ball.the two issues in that matter were that he was waiting for the ball too often, and that he failed to use his immense strength.second half he started well, but he missed that chance, well maybe it had too much pace who knows. but then benteke came in and there was suddenly alot more possession for the belgian team, because he did manage to hold a ball and he did manage to keep an impossible pass in the team.MoM was Kompany, the guy was amazing.That's what I noticed too, benteke has some qualities which we lack in our teams strikers.1. Link up play2. Ball control and first touch3. Hold up play(sorry lukaku's first touch ruins this for him)i We should have gone for him incase we don't get rooney, but everyone just thought he is from belgium so he and lukaku must be the same type of player. Which was not true. He's the type of striker that thrives in a system against teams that park the bus. All our strikers are counter attack strikers like jose said. Edited August 16, 2013 by kellzfresh Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
replika83 14 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Belgians and their defensive attitude towards Belgian players all the time... Annoying as hell. Good = good - Bad = bad. Get over it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goemaere 131 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 A 20 year old Lukaku has performed better in almost every single match he played the last year and a half but still gets as much shit as torres.strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goemaere 131 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Belgians and their defensive attitude towards Belgian players all the time... Annoying as hell. Good = good - Bad = bad. Get over it!I think you should look around some more, plenty of people are acctualy quit critical of belgian perfomances because the media has created such a high standard. I think Lukaku did okay against france, benteke was meh, de bruyne was shit and hazard was under performing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I think you should look around some more, plenty of people are acctualy quit critical of belgian perfomances because the media has created such a high standard. I think Lukaku did okay against france, benteke was meh, de bruyne was shit and hazard was under performing.Hell Yeah, even Verheyen was crap and he is retired for years now! :goober! replika83 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoro 151 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 A 20 year old Lukaku has performed better in almost every single match he played the last year and a half but still gets as much shit as torres.strange.Maybe because we havent seen any of that performance in a Chelsea shirt. If a player isnt playing well, he is going to get stick regardless of age or nationality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
replika83 14 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I think you should look around some more, plenty of people are acctualy quit critical of belgian perfomances because the media has created such a high standard. I think Lukaku did okay against france, benteke was meh, de bruyne was shit and hazard was under performing. There are also a lot who get ultradefensive when somebody says a negative thing about a Belgian player. Like someone's badmouthing their child...And Lukaku plays at a topclub, so being judged hard comes with the job. If he plays bad, he'll get tons of shit. Works in both ways. Mignolet made lots of mistakes in his debut at Liverpool, but makes 1 massive important save in the end and he's a halfgod. If he didn't save it, he would've been torn apart on fora on his overall performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Why do people keep going on about his performance from 1 game? WOW! Annoying thing is there is about a whole page of complaints of his performance against France on the De Bruyne page itself. Give it a rest. He is young, improving and will have have bad performances as part of his learning curve. Not making excuses for him but yes it was a friendly so move on. His next game he will probably bag a couple anyway you are suggesting people show patience ,,,well that would surprise me if it happened especially on match days Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jan 14 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 i never have seen him using his body in pre-seasoni hope he does now the season starts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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