Tomo 21,751 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Jase said: I know people will say Lukaku is our talisman now etc but maybe Tuchel shouldn't try to shoehorn him into every game or play him in every minute of a game. I mean, wasn't there also an injury concern with Lukaku last month? Plus, there's another international break next month and still a long way to go in the season. Would be sods law if he misses a chunk of his bread and butter fixtures and returns for the United game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivefootball 195 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 £97.5 for a player who cant run and control a ball, maybe we will go cry again to the press Warning_Hazard and Beigl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,958 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 🤣 money wasted Warning_Hazard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beigl 1,387 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Milan said: 🤣 money wasted Was obvious from the start. Warning_Hazard and positivefootball 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,958 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Beigl said: Was obvious from the start. The depressing part is we are stuck with him for years. Unless Conte takes him to his new club again which is not probable... He has made us worse and we are stuck with him 😥 Edited October 16, 2021 by Milan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Hindsight 20/20 but 170 million for both Chiesa and Hakimi would’ve been far better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,182 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Just hope he doesnt throw a fit when hes not starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Was surprised to see Tuchel took Lukaku off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Hindsight 20/20 but 170 million for both Chiesa and Hakimi would’ve been far better. Yet neither are CFs which this team needed so its a pointless comparison. Both would of been excellent signings, Hakimi especially, but still still leave us short uptop because if there is one thing we have seen from Timo and Kai is they still aren’t fully dependable as strikers at a big club. 10 minutes ago, Jase said: Was surprised to see Tuchel took Lukaku off... Thought he would of done it sooner, he didn't play well at all. Issues in attack with not releasing it quick enough is one thing, his play today was also not good at all. Obviously perhaps its not going to happen overnight but shoehorning him and Werner together in a front 2 doesn’t look exactly brilliant yet either. Re subs RLC as well second half should have went, very concerning he still struggles after 60-65 minutes with the intensity of the PL. Did well first half too in phases bar not being progressive enough with distribution. Just like Kovacic but bit more physical.  Edited October 16, 2021 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jase said: Was surprised to see Tuchel took Lukaku off... Atleast we can now know he will be held to account. Was worried he'd get unconditional 90 minutes like he did under Mou at United. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 @OneMoSalah I agree but we are losing a lot of our dynamism and fluidity with Lukaku. Chiesa is a goal scorer at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: @OneMoSalah I agree but we are losing a lot of our dynamism and fluidity with Lukaku. Chiesa is a goal scorer at the very least. True but again, we have seen with Costa upfront who was more of a penalty box player that this can work much much better, because of this I wouldn’t necessarily panic on the attack just yet. Not fully anyway. Lukaku will get his X amount of goals this season undoubtedly and we will win more games/points than last season but out of Werner, Pulisic, Havertz, Mount, Ziyech, it is concerning on who plays. We need to find the right 2 to play off him as he’s undoubtedly going to be the number 1 CF. That is clear. Regardless of if people think he’s the right man or not. Who is going to be the best players to combine with him? Who are going to contribute goals, assists, key passes regularly too? The front 2 of him and Timo doesn’t fill me with confidence. You could argue we have too many options in that positions and there are some who are very similar players bar Werner and I didn’t even mention CHO who is an attacker on paper. Edited October 16, 2021 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warning_Hazard 156 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 ...............................yep Absolut face palm  Terrible, Absolutly terrible this evening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Yet neither are CFs which this team needed so its a pointless comparison. Both would of been excellent signings, Hakimi especially, but still still leave us short uptop because if there is one thing we have seen from Timo and Kai is they still aren’t fully dependable as strikers at a big club. The irony with this is that we've gone from complaining about missing chances to not creating enough chances etc. 9 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Thought he would of done it sooner, he didn't play well at all. Issues in attack with not releasing it quick enough is one thing, his play today was also not good at all. Obviously perhaps its not going to happen overnight but shoehorning him and Werner together in a front 2 doesn’t look exactly brilliant yet either. Well, given all the love Tuchel has been giving Lukaku, I thought he would never take him off, whatever the circumstances. Playing Werner and Lukaku as a front 2 is a work in progress and thought they looked alright together in the first half today when we controlled the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: True but again, we have seen with Costa upfront who was more of a penalty box player that this can work much much better, because of this I wouldn’t necessarily panic on the attack just yet. Not fully anyway. The thing is with that is Conte and Mourinho are the kind of managers who build teams around individuals whereas Tuchel seems more about building teams around systems and then fit the players into the systems. I mean, Tuchel was hardly able to create a cohesive unit at PSG with the likes of Mbappe and Neymar around. Even Pochettino, another system based manager, is experiencing the same problems and this time with Messi in the mix. 11 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Lukaku will get his X amount of goals this season undoubtedly and we will win more games/points than last season but out of Werner, Pulisic, Havertz, Mount, Ziyech, it is concerning on who plays. We need to find the right 2 to play off him as he’s undoubtedly going to be the number 1 CF. That is clear. Regardless of if people think he’s the right man or not. Who is going to be the best players to combine with him? Who are going to contribute goals, assists, key passes regularly too? The front 2 of him and Timo doesn’t fill me with confidence. You could argue we have too many options in that positions and there are some who are very similar players bar Werner and I didn’t even mention CHO who is an attacker on paper. Based on recent evidence, I would throw Werner and Mount with Lukaku. Since Lukaku isn't gonna move much, then put players around him that will actually move around, provide the pace, energy and ability to create something etc. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura90 556 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 The only signing that has made me genuine sad. It really was sign that decision making in this club hasn't improved a bit. I was angry at first but mainly sad after. I gave up any hope we will win anything but I am not even among those fans who put trophies first. Kepa signing rinse and repeat. 97 millions transfer fee. 325 000 a week are about 85 million for five years. Around 180 million total for a player who never had any capacity and quality to take us forward. Who could only dismantle good foundation we created at the end of the last season. Makes you wonder who are decision makers in this club. Who of them saw Lukaku as a player who can bring PL or CL to the team that already struggles? If we hadn't have options why didn't we show some faith in the players that have won us CL and explore our options next season? With around 100 - 180 millions in pocket. It baffles me. The most absurd signing a club that is not called Barcelona has ever made . What will be our transfer budget next summer? Senseless , pointless and costly mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Hindsight 20/20 but 170 million for both Chiesa and Hakimi would’ve been far better. Lol, were you not aware how aggressively some of us were against signing Lukaku? It was obvious from the start this was going to happen. I think Traore would be a good signing, I don’t know why people are so aggressively against him. Edited October 16, 2021 by Clockwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 On 02/10/2021 at 02:49, NikkiCFC said: Â Came across this before today's game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: @OneMoSalah I agree but we are losing a lot of our dynamism and fluidity with Lukaku. Chiesa is a goal scorer at the very least. Problem is most, if not all, of us see no hope that Chiesa will come here. We have to shop elsewhere. Edited October 16, 2021 by OhForAGreavsie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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