AK-3001 286 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Skipper said: I agree with most of your post -Β I just think there are better CBs available atΒ VVDs price.Β For example - Romagnoli, Bonucci, Laporte would all be better purchases. But that's for another thread. I think I'd rather give Christensen a chance - he's just like a new signing essentially. If he wasn't owned by Chelsea he would've been snapped up by one of the other big clubs by now. He's got a fan in Pep for example.Β Absolutely this, especially the last line. Β We should think of him as a new signing rather than an academy product. He is really good and juts turned 21. If we didn't have him already, we would have been linked with him for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 This was obviously before the season ended but still interesting. AK-3001 and 11Drogba 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's too big 625 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Β 27 minutes ago, The Skipper said: Again with the conspiracy theories. I need someone to prove to me how they know Conte isn't the one after Lukaku. Concrete facts.Β Not saying it's legit, but DiMarzio's colleague said a couple weeks ago on twitter (in response to the Lukaku to Chelsea rumours)Β that Conte wanted Lukaku at Juventus. If true, then it's likely a Conte signing. I would rather believe someone who is knowledgable about Italian football than some random poster on a Chelsea forum lol DDA, mashimaru161, AK-3001 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 minute ago, It's too big said: Β Not saying it's legit, but DiMarzio's colleague said a couple weeks ago on twitter (in response to the Lukaku to Chelsea rumours)Β that Conte wanted Lukaku at Juventus. If true, then it's likely a Conte signing. I would rather believe someone who is knowledgable about Italian football than some random poster on a Chelsea forum lol Yup, DiMarzio claimed that Lukaku was Conte's second choice anyway, so it isn't like he doesn't like him. mashimaru161 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's too big 625 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 People just wanna shit on the board for anything and focus on the negatives, forgetting the brilliant signings our board has made.Β iceboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 You guys look far too much into goals and stats.Β Take a look at Didi PL Games(goals)Β per season; 26(10), 29(12), 36(20), 19(8), 24(5), 32(29), 36(11), 24(5) In only two seasons he scored 20 goals or more. In only two seasons he got to over 30 goals in all compilations. Next best was 16 goals twice, 15, 14, and 13 goals twice.Β And would you not consider him one of greatest strikers past few years?Β What realy matters are performances. And mentality; attitude. This is where great strikers separate from good ones, regardless of talent.Β Everyone saying Morata isnt scoring enough; he is clearly brilliant player in big games, while Lukaku is the exact opposite. Loads of goals against alright opponents. Yes he is young and powerful, but we have to look for improvement, for striker that can take us next level. Is Lukaku realy better than Costa at his best? I dont think so. Then there is this huge price tag of 70m Im positive no striker apart from Suarez and Lewa is worth in today football.Β But if thats Conte decision, so be it. I just dont buy this chelsea love from Lukaku. He left without even trying to compete, he is a very aroggant persona and doesnt strike me as that very hard working player to reach higher and higher level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's too big 625 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, akgw13 said: This was obviously before the season ended but still interesting. I wouldn't bother mate, it's obvious there's a minority who have an agenda.Β 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, AK-3001 said: Some of the claims on here are laughable. Β He has been playing in an Everton squad that relies solely on him for goals and he scores those goals.Β If you took away every single one of Lukakus goals for Everton they would've finished in the same position. They rely on him for nothing. Clockwork 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 47 minutes ago, Pizy said: Is it a downgrade, though? More like a sideways move for me. Neither are great with the ball and both sometimes have trouble in tight areas when closed down.Β I think Diego's biggest positive for us is that he's clutch. Seems to frequently pop up at the right time with a very incisive goal. Lukaku is stronger, bigger, and much better in the air. Plus, and perhaps most importantly, he's never a liability with his temperament. NeverΒ gets injured and isn't a controversial person publicly.Β Like you say, there aren't really other options that would be any cheaper and even if we spent Β£80m or more on someone like Belotti you'd have to pray that he's the real deal and can cut it in a new country, much tougher league, and deal with all the pressure of being a mega expensive player. With Rom we know precisely what we're getting. He knows exactly how to play in the PL. Costa can score without every pass and cross being aimed at him. Lukaku can't;Β Costa relies on himself to score. Lukaku relies on those he's around to score.Β If your team has an off day, Costa can probably save you. Lukaku has a far higher probability that heΒ won't, he'll act stranded. It's not too different from moving from Drogba to the Torres we got. The only positive Lukaku has over a broken, at the very bottom Torres, is his confidence, which lets him score in scenarios Torres would overthink. Same pace. Same use of strength, which is depressing. Broken Torres was better in the air. Broken Torres would show more grit. Broken Torres would have better hold up play. Broken Torres could be an assist machine.Β Torres was still one of our worst ever strikers. And offered so, so much more than Lukaku.Β Lukaku will be in the bottom 3 of the Roman era. Below Anelka, below Kalou, below Eto'o, below Ba, below my love Gudj (obviously not in order, some of these are greats.)Β He'll be right there with Falcao & Pato as complete utter nonsense signings, who'll never be torn apart appropriately, due to a shield of charm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 minute ago, We Hate Scouse said: If you took away every single one of Lukakus goals for Everton they would've finished in the same position. They rely on him for nothing. Lol.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's too big 625 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 minute ago, BlueLyon said: You guys look far too much into goals and stats.Β Take a look at Didi PL Games(goals)Β per season; 26(10), 29(12), 36(20), 19(8), 24(5), 32(29), 36(11), 24(5) In only two seasons he scored 20 goals or more. In only two seasons he got to over 30 goals in all compilations. Next best was 16 goals twice, 15, 14, and 13 goals twice.Β And would you not consider him one of greatest strikers past few years?Β What realy matters are performances. And mentality; attitude. This is where great strikers separate from good ones, regardless of talent.Β Everyone saying Morata isnt scoring enough; he is clearly brilliant player in big games, while Lukaku is the exact opposite. Loads of goals against alright opponents. Yes he is young and powerful, but we have to look for improvement, for striker that can take us next level. Is Lukaku realy better than Costa at his best? I dont think so. Then there is this huge price tag of 70m Im positive no striker apart from Suarez and Lewa is worth in today football.Β But if thats Conte decision, so be it. I just dont buy this chelsea love from Lukaku. He left without even trying to compete, he is a very aroggant persona and doesnt strike me as that very hard working player to reach higher and higher level. Well if we going on Attitude, Costa has a very shit one and weak mentality when he doesn't get his own way. I don't wanna be drawn into shitting on Costa because he's been very good for us, but he also lets us down with his temper and he often lets himself down by how childish he can be at time for his age.Β The Skipper and mashimaru161 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 LATESTΒ LATEST LUKAKU ODDS Chelsea are theΒ odds-on favourites at 2/7 with Sky BetΒ to bring Romelu Lukaku back to the club this summer. Manchester United are second in the Belgium striker's next club market atΒ 7/2Β and he's all the way out atΒ 8/1Β to remain with Everton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 http://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2017/5/24/15678240/2016-17-everton-player-reviews-romelu-lukaku-grades-premier-league-transfer-latest An interesting read about his season in review. They touch on "big games" and how important he was for Everton. "This season was a fitting send off: plenty of goals and an improved league position. He never went more than 4 matches without scoring and never missed a start after being injured for the first match of the season" The Skipper, kellzfresh and AK-3001 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 minute ago, akgw13 said: http://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2017/5/24/15678240/2016-17-everton-player-reviews-romelu-lukaku-grades-premier-league-transfer-latest An interesting read about his season in review. They touch on "big games" and how important he was for Everton. And to think everyone above him plays for a Champions League team and he has been doing it for Everton.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: Everyone saying Morata isnt scoring enough; he is clearly brilliant player in big games, while Lukaku is the exact opposite. Loads of goals against alright opponents. Please stop this narrative man. That Morata guyΒ has played for two of the best teams in the last decade - Zidane's Madrid and Allegri's Juve. Lukaku has played for WBA and Everton, its not a fair comparison. If Romelu does land, CFC is the first big club he's ever been at (let's not count his first spell here).Β Chelsea Legend 11, Stats and 11Drogba 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 After the Michy scenario I'm not letting anyone think this is a Conte signing without a laughΒ You don't follow a player, as a club, season after season, despite whoever the manager is, and then sign him.....because your new manager wants him. It's the board. It's Roman and idiots. It's Fifa 18 lovers. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Its gonna really suck to have a striker in the team who loves the club and scores 20 or more a season... What are Chelsea thinking? Sign a guy who is 24 and has already scored 85 premier league goals and adores the club. Emenalo and Marina are morons. Thor and Last Sicarius 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 I think I am in the minority here, but I don't fancy Morata as much.Β Thor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Leif said: After the Michy scenario I'm not letting anyone think this is a Conte signing without a laughΒ You don't follow a player, as a club, season after season, despite whoever the manager is, and then sign him.....because your new manager wants him. It's the board. It's Roman and idiots. It's Fifa 18 lovers. The same idiots that aren't afraid to take decisions. We have lost so many maangers over the past decade, yet have kept on winning. Β I don't understand why a few Chelsea fans dish out on the board, it's actually one of the best around. Just be glad we don't have Arsenal's or Liverpool's Board. They put the club beforeΒ anything and everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, We Hate Scouse said: If you took away every single one of Lukakus goals for Everton they would've finished in the same position. They rely on him for nothing. I think that has more to do with the teams below Everton and the teams above them... The dumbest thing I've heard in a while. Ya his 25 goals mean nothing... lol Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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