Stoke 0-0 Chelsea

[lionsden 4,689]

Andres Villas Boas disagree's.

And who says AVB can't be wrong?

[GoranZg 56]

Kalou is not good enough for a club the size of Chelsea under any capacity (squad player or X1)

Agreed. Kalou is a laugh, but so is Malouda. Did you see that pitiful attempt of a dribble? I love his passion, but his tehnique is not much better than mine. Things ain't gonna work this way. But I gonna start with "Daddy, open your wallet and by Neymar fot the love of God" again.

[Henri 115]

Do people still believe Lampard is a starting 11 material for Chelsea? on the evidence of his performance in the last 6 months, he's on downward slope, his level of contribution has dropped significantly and he was selected today purely based on reputation.

It's a shame how many people left Ramires out of their pre-match starting line up. despite his contributions in the 2nd half of last season, there are people who still believe he isn't a Chelsea material and if it was up to them, he would be starting most games from the bench while we still show faith in HAS BEENS.

once Sturridge returns from suspension, I expect him to displace Kalou from the X1 and a quality left winger/wing forward will significantly improve this team as our lack of width/creativity was part of our undoing today.

All in all. The team came back fighting in the second ha;f and was unlucky not to have won the match in the end thanks to some dodgy officiating and lack of genuine creativity.

Ramires is quality. In my opinion Kalou and Malouda only think for themselves - they play like they have left the club long ago. Sturridge has really proved all us who doubts he is ready and deserve play time!. Lampard

said he will not hang around - maybe he soon has to prove that?.

[lionsden 4,689]

i think the problem is sentiment and the fact that lampard is still a good player

The evidence on ground suggests otherwise. if he's still a good player, he needs to start showing it and fast.

Its easy to jump on the bandwagon and say hes no good or old etc, the facts are he is good,

What facts. What have you based your assertion on? In the last 6 months, He has played consistently below par yet you claim facts suggests he's still good.

is still fit but just not chelseas standard if we want to get back to the top. Man utd played cleverley and anderson today, scholes was still class but getting slower, just preferred to retire then graft it out.

Yes you are right, he's no longer Chelsea standard which only begs the question why is he still a regular starter?

He is a cfc legend and dont want to ever get on his case.

No one is immune to criticism.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

you think? i see him as very cynical defender. I would put a decent wager that he'l get sent off in the europa league this year. His tackle on ramsey was horrendous and really cant understand why ppl defended it. Woodgate was head and shoulders there best player. That wasnt a compliment to his hair by the way.

Shawcross lol, how many times did he hold Cech during set plays today?

Descent defender, but he's too dirty for my liking.

I hope you are ironic LDN here. He is just a dirty bastard who should have been sent off X times. He is a Vidic mark II.

Disagree. He is like a young bull, you just need a great bull fighter and his fuck`ed up for good.

I thought I'd receive a bit of backlash from that Shawcross comment.

I think he's a good defender, but lacks discipline. I'm not sure why Pulis hasn't controlled that yet, maybe he is? But when he's got a cool head he's a very good defender. Can read the game well & will mark his man.

lentherussian - There's no use in talking about the Ramsey incident, such things happen in football.. There's no way he meant to injure Ramsey like that, he's not Stephen Hunt.

[laeth 527]

Said it before and will say it again now. Lamps needs to be dropped; he's been terrible all pre-season and has carried it over to competitive games.Bloody drop him!

[Guest justin_3d]

Said it before and will say it again now. Lamps needs to be dropped; he's been terrible all pre-season and has carried it over to competitive games.Bloody drop him!

I would not say completely drop permanently.

Is just that our club has to be smart about this like SAF did with Giggs and Scholes.

I am sure that Lampard will make a bigger impact as a super sub, then being a starter and play full 90 mins every game.

[laeth 527]

I would not say completely drop permanently.

Is just that our club has to be smart about this like SAF did with Giggs and Scholes.

I am sure that Lampard will make a bigger impact as a super sub, then being a starter and play full 90 mins every game.

Fine with that; meant drop him from the starting 11.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Sadly i agree, Lamps has been crap from the end of last season till now.

[lionsden 4,689]

It's very simple, if Lampard continues to start for us then it would clearly invalidate AVB's policy/assertion of making team's selection based on merit. How many times have we heard that statement from managers joining a new club- Capello (England), scolari, Carlotti et al have all said the same thing but never backed their word up with action.

[ZanSnake 1,211]

Nani, Valencia, Young - Man Ure's options for the wings (off my head).

Anelka, Kalou, Malouda - Chelsea options for the wings (not including Kakuta/Sturridge).

I know which one i would prefer

[lentherussian 86]

The evidence on ground suggests otherwise. if he's still a good player, he needs to start showing it and fast.

What facts. What have you based your assertion on? In the last 6 months, He has played consistently below par yet you claim facts suggests he's still good.

Yes you are right, he's no longer Chelsea standard which only begs the question why is he still a regular starter?

No one is immune to criticism.

Firstly the facts i base it on is the fact he played last year for a team that came 2nd in the prem and got to the quarter finals of the champions league and i dont think u play centre mid for a team that does that well if your poor. He wasnt chelseas worst player apart from maybe the 1st leg against man utd. No manager has dropped him and he still plays for england. If he was to go for sale he would move to another top club. Maybe i shouldnt use the word fact but im pretty sure im right and the majority of public would agree. He's performances are definately dropping i hve no argument with that and if you look at my previous posts ive said that he should be moved on. I dont think he should be excempt from criticism just think hes an honest pro who gives it all, slag the manager off not him.

[lentherussian 86]

I thought I'd receive a bit of backlash from that Shawcross comment.

I think he's a good defender, but lacks discipline. I'm not sure why Pulis hasn't controlled that yet, maybe he is? But when he's got a cool head he's a very good defender. Can read the game well & will mark his man.

lentherussian - There's no use in talking about the Ramsey incident, such things happen in football.. There's no way he meant to injure Ramsey like that, he's not Stephen Hunt.

I disagree with things like that happen in football comment. He had absolutely no need to go in that hard, it was reckless. Like sayin if you hit someone in a car whilst speeding but didnt mean its not as bad, its still reckless and your meant to be a professional.

[magic weeds 446]

I hope you are ironic LDN here. He is just a dirty bastard who should have been sent off X times. He is a Vidic mark II.

Just like Pepe. Some dirty c**t that should not play footbal.

[Styles 9,790]

It's very simple, if Lampard continues to start for us then it would clearly invalidate AVB's policy/assertion of making team's selection based on merit. How many times have we heard that statement from managers joining a new club- Capello (England), scolari, Carlotti et al have all said the same thing but never backed their word up with action.

I gave up on the idea of AVB dropping Lampard when he called him 'Lamps' in a press conference. He seems to soft to drop him in my opinon. I'd rather moan about players he has the balls to drop or replace i.e. the infamous pair now known as Kalouda.

[zolayes 14,489]

I gave up on the idea of AVB dropping Lampard when he called him 'Lamps' in a press conference. He seems to soft to drop him in my opinon. I'd rather moan about players he has the balls to drop or replace i.e. the infamous pair now known as Kalouda.

is this the start of the AVB out campaign??

[Styles 9,790]

is this the start of the AVB out campaign??

Slight murmurs of discontent at this point. If he plays Kalou again it will begin in earnest.

[Sheva. 5,373]

I gave up on the idea of AVB dropping Lampard when he called him 'Lamps' in a press conference. He seems to soft to drop him in my opinon. I'd rather moan about players he has the balls to drop or replace i.e. the infamous pair now known as Kalouda.

Lol Kalouda.

I can understand AVB starting Kalou though, Sturridge is not available atm, and unlike Anelka he will actually stay in his position.

Instead of drifting to DM, and also taking 10 minutes to pass the ball.

[Styles 9,790]

Lol Kalouda.

I can understand AVB starting Kalou though, Sturridge is not available atm, and unlike Anelka he will actually stay in his position.

Instead of drifting to DM, and also taking 10 minutes to pass the ball.

Even Anelka at his absolute worse is still infinitely more competent than Kalou. He has a better first touch, doesn't lose the ball even if he holds on to it for half an hour at a time and has the pace to make opponents back up and give him space to do something for instance the shot that was saved today that was nearly a goal.

Nobody respects Kalou. He has no techincal quality. Zero pace. No strength. He is truly awful in every way. He doesn't have a single redeeming quality.

[HRiver 1,512]

Anelka is miles better than Kalou.

Unlike Kalou, Anelka has skills and technique, but he's getting old now, and he's not as quick as he used to be. Kalou can't even receive a ball properly.