🇧🇪 Thibaut Courtois

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17 hours ago, BlueLion said:

 

A fair point, but Cech had Terry and Carvalho, who, IMO, is the only defender in our recent history who you could say was better than Terry ever was, in front of him. Courtois has an ageing Terry and either a youngster in Zouma or a bang average defender in Cahill in front of him. A keeper really is only as good as his defence. Courtois isn't as good as Cech yet, but we shouldn't expect him to be. He's 23. He's better at 23 than Cech was, IMO. 

Courtois is better than Cech imo. Cech is a top goalie but I think from the time Courtois was at Atletico he had overtaken Cech and it was timef or him to be no.1. Although Cech has helped Arsenal this season, he has also made several mistakes. Arsenal's first game against West Ham. Both goals which West Ham scored were down to 2 huge errors from him. When they lost to Southampton 4-0, I would say he made poor error of judgemen's for at least 3 goals there.

Even in Arsenal's 2-1 victory over Palace earlier on in the season, the angle in which he let Joel Ward score,a  top goalie should really not be letting that in but luckily they held on that game. I think they have many similariites, but Courtois is better than Cech as a whole imo. But I would say both are prone to the odd mistakes. Cech more so.

[DANILA 290]

I think Cech is better; maybe not now, but before this season. Courtois has let in some soft goals, i.e. both goals against west brom. I love courtois, and I really hope he gets back to form sooner rather then later.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Courtois is better than cech at commanding his area, predicting play and catching crosses. But when it comes to pure shot stopping, Cech is clearly better. 

[It's too big 625]

Cech is an experienced keeper now, though. Remember when he was Courtois' age? I don't like how people are so fast to jump to criticise him when he lets in a goal. The defence in front of him should be doing better to protect him from having to concede those silly goals. 

[MCM4PR3Z 411]

I understand that everybody is pissed off because of our poor ranking and that people are thinking about the old times with the previous group of players. But that doesn't mean that every player is sh*t now and that every past player is better. Cech vs Courtois is a good example of that. Courtois played a great game versus Everton, but everybody is pissed off because we received 3 goals that were impossible to stop for Courtois (the last one could be stopped if he was lucky, but not having luck is not his fault) and everybody forgets he made 2 class saves. With a normal goalkeeper we would have received 5 goals, it's a disaster but it's not Thibaut's fault.

 

2 hours ago, DANILA said:

I think Cech is better; maybe not now, but before this season. Courtois has let in some soft goals, i.e. both goals against west brom. I love courtois, and I really hope he gets back to form sooner rather then later.

Yeah, 2 hard shots right in the corner. Goalkeepers should always save those. Imo people are seeing ghosts here. Letting simple balls (soft and in the centre) go in like De Gea did frequently in December, those are real mistakes. Not making a miracle save is not a mistake. He has made enough miracle saves, maybe people get used to it too much.

Again, reacting extremely fast and tapping balls out of the corner of the goal with his 2 metres body and his 10 metres arms may look easy, because he makes it look easy. But those are truely world class saves and not normal at all.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

lol, someone points out that he isn't up to his standards lately and here come the lawyers.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

He should drink a nice camomile and calm his nerves.

[MefiX19 1,092]

2 hours ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

He should drink a nice camomile and calm his nerves.

Better give him a bottle of vodka.

[Tomo 21,751]

One thing I got to say, that Flamini heel at the end that deflected off Mikel could have been a problem with another keeper, but his positioning was so good it wasn't even a remote issue.

De Gea would probably have been standing closer to centre of goal and been forces into a world class save which triggered a wankfest but Tibo won't get credit for making it look so easy.

[Jase 43,479]

His goal kicks are absolutely rubbish.

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39 minutes ago, Tomo said:

One thing I got to say, that Flamini heel at the end that deflected off Mikel could have been a problem with another keeper, but his positioning was so good it wasn't even a remote issue.

De Gea would probably have been standing closer to centre of goal and been forces into a world class save which triggered a wankfest but Tibo won't get credit for making it look so easy.

 

Excellent positioning is what I loved about Cech too...really underrated skill. Prefer keepers who have excellent reading of the game and have good positioning, over those who just make gung-ho saves for the cameras.

[chelseamabz 17]

One day Courtois will be better than Cech, but not right now. Courtois and his distribution is horrendous at times. Fantastic shot stopper but does need to develop his distribution skills. I was nervous on more than one occasion today watching him "command his area"

[BlueLion. 21,491]

His judgement on crosses is horrendously poor at the moment. This worries me, as it is usually his biggest asset. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,315]

Just now, BlueLion said:

His judgement on crosses is horrendously poor at the moment. This worries me, as it is usually his biggest asset. 

and his distribution  

 

I was cringeing every time he went near it yesterday, and Cech still has that sureness about him. That said, still a young lad, and will be the best in the World one day

[Amblève. 4,995]

I have a dream that one day this Talkchelsea nation will stop mentioning De Gea everytime they talk about Courtois. It's becoming just as bad as Liverpool fans always mentioning us when talking about their history.

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19 hours ago, chelseamabz said:

One day Courtois will be better than Cech, but not right now. Courtois and his distribution is horrendous at times. Fantastic shot stopper but does need to develop his distribution skills. I was nervous on more than one occasion today watching him "command his area"

his distribution was always poor but in saves and reflexes. Courtois is better

[BlueLyon 9,359]

On 1/20/2016 at 6:18 PM, It's too big said:

Cech is an experienced keeper now, though. Remember when he was Courtois' age? I don't like how people are so fast to jump to criticise him when he lets in a goal. The defence in front of him should be doing better to protect him from having to concede those silly goals. 

When he was Courtois age?

 

Oh lets see...when Cech was 22 (Tibo is now 23) he had absolutely fantastic euro with Cz and in first season at chelsea broke record of just 15 goals conceded. Kudos to our back for too but still.

People like to point out that Cech had great defence at chelsea but Tibo had one too. Atletico defense was also amazing and Courtois was quite lucky to have those defenders ahead. Oblak now is also turning into one of best young Gks but sure part for that goes to atletico defense.

People forget how good Cech was and honestly I doubt Tibo will reach his very best level, but who knows.

 

[BlueLion. 21,491]

2 hours ago, Amblève. said:

I have a dream that one day this Talkchelsea nation will stop mentioning De Gea everytime they talk about Courtois. It's becoming just as bad as Liverpool fans always mentioning us when talking about their history.

 

Why? It's only natural to compare him to one of the three other outstanding goalkeepers in the division (Lloris and Cech being the other two). 

 

26 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

People forget how good Cech was and honestly I doubt Tibo will reach his very best level, but who knows.

 

 

I agree - but, unlike Cech, who always had outstanding competition, I believe Thibaut will become the undisputed greatest GK in the world, simply because all of the major competitors for that crown are on the way out of the game - Neuer, Cech, Buffon are all in their 30s. 

[Amblève. 4,995]

1 minute ago, BlueLion said:

Why? It's only natural to compare him to one of the three other outstanding goalkeepers in the division (Lloris and Cech being the other two). 

Because it feels like an inferiority complex at this point. When the only "comparison" that is being made is talking shit about the other team's GK and putting his performances/class down because he plays a different style we're past the point of actually discussing/comparing the two.

[Henrique 9,133]

At the moment Courtois is one my favorite players, but I still believe Mourinho did a huge mistake when he choose him over Cech as the nº1 GK. Courtois is no better than Cech. Cech is a Chelsea legend, and was still 32 years old. I mean he still had at least more 5 years at top level. GK keepm playing untill late 30s. Buffon is still a quality GK, van De Sar was playing UCL Final with 41. Schmeichel was winning UCL with united with 36 years.

Courtois can produce some impossible saves, but he is a liability at crosses and set pieces, and its clear he is that kind of player that put some subpar performance when he is under pressure.