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Disagree.

Goalkeeper and striker are really the two only 'confidence' positions on the pitch. If the press continuously berate you over poor performances as a striker or errors as a goalie, it affects you massively. Look at Cech in 08/09, he had two shaky games and the press made it look like his hands had been replaced with marshmallows. Yes it is important to have a positive mental outlook, but strikers and goalkeepers are particularly prone to knocks in their confidence. You can react two ways - go into your shell or come out all guns blazing. Rooney did the latter last season and finished the season in deadly form, Torres has done the opposite. Once he finds his scoring touch, el Nino will be back, you have my word.

It does not affect defenders or midfielders so much, which is why Terry and Cole responded in kind.

Have to agree...

I still remember some of the ridiculous arguments made by the press regarding Cech, including the one which said he might have suffered some kind of brain damage to make him impaired...

I think Torres' confidence is growing.. he just needs to work on his fitness. If he can get his electric pace back, he will be involved in more goal scoring opportunities.

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What a heartbreaking story,i think i am gonna cry.

A man who is earning £170,000 per week for kicking a ball has lost all his confidence because some "bad" people are saying some "bad" things about him.What a cruel world...

Supporting a player that plays for your team is one thing,finding lame excuses for his performance is another.

what he earns is irrelevant to his confidence or perhaps even contributes to the problem ..If all our fans had your attitude it would be even more difficult for him to recover his form.

AND make no mistake we need a fit and firing Fernando.

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Disagree.

Goalkeeper and striker are really the two only 'confidence' positions on the pitch. If the press continuously berate you over poor performances as a striker or errors as a goalie, it affects you massively. Look at Cech in 08/09, he had two shaky games and the press made it look like his hands had been replaced with marshmallows. Yes it is important to have a positive mental outlook, but strikers and goalkeepers are particularly prone to knocks in their confidence. You can react two ways - go into your shell or come out all guns blazing. Rooney did the latter last season and finished the season in deadly form, Torres has done the opposite. Once he finds his scoring touch, el Nino will be back, you have my word.

It does not affect defenders or midfielders so much, which is why Terry and Cole responded in kind.

hmmm sounds good, but I would say from what you just told me, that it shows Torres is a weak minded character compare to Cech and Rooney reactions after media bashing.

Right now Torres problem might be all mental as this article talks about:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/armchair-pundit/article/13276/

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He came to a team that was in a mess, give him a break.

Last season there were periods when anyone from our team couldn't score not just Torres.

He can score a hat trick in his next game, but if his problem is mental it will take more then goals to get past this.

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I doubt that it's mental.

I liked this quote from the article i just put:

Torres appears to be suffering from the opposite problem. He really is one of the world's best. We have all seen the evidence.

And yet, in his head, he is a pub player.

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what he earns is irrelevant to his confidence or perhaps even contributes to the problem ..If all our fans had your attitude it would be even more difficult for him to recover his form.

AND make no mistake we need a fit and firing Fernando.

I think that you missed the point of my post.I am supporting Torres all the way and i know that we need him.This attitude i have is not only towards Torres but towards all the footballers.

I just find it really hard to feel sorry for them for such ridiculous reasons when they earn millions and at the same time people are starving to death.Stop treating them like they are the victims of this world.

Like Jose once said : "Pressure? What pressure? Pressure is millions of parents around the world with no money to feed their children. There is no pressure in football."

That's my point.

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I think that you missed the point of my post.I am supporting Torres all the way and i know that we need him.This attitude i have is not only towards Torres but towards all the footballers.

I just find it really hard to feel sorry for them for such ridiculous reasons when they earn millions and at the same time people are starving to death.Stop treating them like they are the victims of this world.

Like Jose once said : "Pressure? What pressure? Pressure is millions of parents around the world with no money to feed their children. There is no pressure in football."

That's my point.

That's very true what Mourinho said.

One of the very few things i agree with him. :lol:

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I think that you missed the point of my post.I am supporting Torres all the way and i know that we need him.This attitude i have is not only towards Torres but towards all the footballers.

I just find it really hard to feel sorry for them for such ridiculous reasons when they earn millions and at the same time people are starving to death.Stop treating them like they are the victims of this world.

Like Jose once said : "Pressure? What pressure? Pressure is millions of parents around the world with no money to feed their children. There is no pressure in football."

That's my point.

joses quote is completely irrelevant as normal life cannot be compared to football. Tell managers who have had heart attacks and had to be strapped to heart machines to monitor them that there is no pressure in football. Its very easy to say he gets 170,000 a week for kicking a ball how can he feel pressure, ive played in front of small crowds before and got paid nothing and felt pressure never mind playing in front of tens of thousands of people in a stadium and millions in a world wide television audience. Of course he can feel pressure
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I do believe its too early to discard Torres. We paid 50m for him, so the club must support him as long as we can.

To other side, confidence is not an excuse. If he lacks confidence its his fault, its a problem that only he can solve, if he fail to do that, he is to blame.

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That's why i couldh't see Sturridge being out of form for to long, he's got a good attitude, he's always honest and he believes in himself, i wouldn't call him big headed though. In his interview's he's down to earth, he will just answer what has been asked, glad to see he stepped up for the free kick, wasn't actually bad either.

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