kiaretta985 131 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 if Roman sacks AVB, then the players will think they have the power to do whatever they want. And this is a thing to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 if Roman sacks AVB, then the players will think they have the power to do whatever they want. And this is a thing to avoid. Too late for that, that penny dropped for the players when Scolari was dismissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 A Truly, "WTF" Moment...http://www.dailymail...lsea-stars.htmlDailymail if Roman sacks AVB, then the players will think they have the power to do whatever they want. And this is a thing to avoid. Agree, Player power is truly ruining Chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Isnt that a fact? Do you disagree that they both inherited good squads?Yes it is my opinion, that i felt it was factual. 1.They did have good squads. 2. They did'nt have good squadsI picked 1.I think they both had good squads ,,,In that my opinion coincides with yours but that doesn't make it a FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiaretta985 131 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Too late for that, that penny dropped for the players when Scolari was dismissed.right... one more reason to put an end to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Isnt that a fact? Do you disagree that they both inherited good squads?Yes it is my opinion, that i felt it was factual. 1.They did have good squads. 2. They did'nt have good squadsI picked 1.Looks like it's pointless discussing with you, because you have already decided about that matter.Could you explain why that great squad isn't doing well now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 For all of the AVB Lovers.... Just have a look at Sunderland as an example.Under Steve bruce, the same bunch of players who couldnt buy a goal and struggled like second grade footballers, suddenly start playing well the moment A brilliant manager comes in, Martin O'neil.9. I feel he got lucky with Porto, simply because the team he inherited was very good, same as what happened in Chelsea when Avram Grant took over. Surprisingly, Real madrid or Barca or for that matter any big club didnt swoop in for him after his great season taking us to the verge of CL Victory. Our board took a gamble.I just want to comment on this.I think you are wrong, because you are not counting the "new manager effect"It happens all the time. What is happening now at Sunderland, happen when every manager from Chelsea in the Roman era is fired and a new one is brought.It takes a couple of months for everything to settle down when the players start regressing and playing like shit.And last the point can be easily said about Mourinho, Pep and such. They all inherited or had a lot of money to build a good squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 And last the point can be easily said about Mourinho, Pep and such. They all inherited or had a lot of money to build a good squad.I Agree,,,, The test for AVB at Chelsea is to inherit a broken team and rebuild it. Since he does not have any previous experience in such a scenario, it will be really tough, and he needs to stand up and be counted.He does probably have the money though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Looks like it's pointless discussing with you, because you have already decided about that matter.Could you explain why that great squad isn't doing well now?Well Chelsea Squad from then is 4 years older and we have lost some good players from those times.... with the remaining players from 2007-8 fading. Also we suffer as we have a mixed bag of players with too many conflicting styles.Porto are still doing well without Boas, are 2nd in the league and have only lost 1 game in 18 games this season.source : http://soccernet.esp...se-liga?cc=4716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Porto are still doing well without Boas, are 2nd in the league and have only lost 1 game in 18 games this season.source : http://soccernet.esp...se-liga?cc=4716Hahahaha..Laughable. Have you seen them play last season and this? You know that they are 5 pts behind first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Hahahaha..Laughable. Have you seen them play last season and this? You know that they are 5 pts behind first.You're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Looks like it's pointless discussing with you, because you have already decided about that matter.Could you explain why that great squad isn't doing well now?Tbf, they did lose Falcao...that has to count for something.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Tbf, they did lose Falcao...that has to count for something..Kleber and that Austrian are not Falcao, but are still good options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut_Blues 306 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I can't stand AVB for how stubborn he is. It is as if he refuses to adapt the formation/playing style when needed. It really pisses me off to see our best Striker played on the right.Yup, Sturridge should play as CF... but AVB's not stubborn mate, it's just that 50 mill says that place is reserved... and with Drogba still in the team I'm sure u see the scope of the problem (cuz it is a huge problem). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I want AVB out because i think he's a bad manager, but i think it's discusting what the players are doing it really is. I want the man to do well and he needs support, i'm hoping for a nice comofortable 3-0 win against Birmingham, with someone like Lukaku playing well and a youth player getting minutes preferably Lucas Piazon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 When it all comes down to it, we can't really make a decision because so much happens behind closed doors that we don't know about. Not to mention none of us have any experience as a top flight manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 When it all comes down to it, we can't really make a decision because so much happens behind closed doors that we don't know about. Not to mention none of us have any experience as a top flight manager.Well that's just stating the obvious, if we went by that rule we wouldn't be saying anything, because everything here is opinions, sometimes facts though, we could be all wrong, could be something completely different. My opinion is AVB is a bad manager and not good enough to manage a top club, because i think his decisions have been poor, his subs for example, taking Mata off every game, now i don't know if Mata asked AVB if he could be taken off at the end of every game nicely, i don't know that but i've still said it and that's what i assume.There could be much more to it, AVB could be under more pressure than we think, and he might not have a lot of control and he's been told not to play this not do that etc, who knows, but i doubt about it, that doubt that i have in AVB not being allowed to make decisions like that isn't bound to be right, it's not a fact what so ever. But we have to say these things otherwise there's not much of a discussion is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 if Roman sacks AVB, then the players will think they have the power to do whatever they want. And this is a thing to avoid. Why would they think it when they've known it and exercised that power since before Mourinho left? If Drogba and his faction want AVB out, theres not a lot anyone can do to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 if Roman sacks AVB, then the players will think they have the power to do whatever they want. And this is a thing to avoid. That's a fair point there! I mean, some players in our side such as Mata, Sturridge (loan return from Bolton), Romeu etc. were all inspired to come to Chelsea because they were impressed with AVB to begin with... if he gets sacked, one of two things can happen. Either they request to leave and follow AVB to whichever club he manages next, or they request a transfer to a club like Inter Milan or AC Milan, maybe even PSG because they do have the money!If Roman does make the tough choice of sacking AVB, then I think (not 100% sure on this) Chelsea would have to pay compensation for his departure because we paid £13m to get him in the first place, and even more-so, our philosophy changes yet again, whatever replacement manager we're likely to bring in... bearing in mind, that this is happening "during mid season", and that's the WORST time to be changing managers, especially when your side is playing poorly, the form is all over the place, and you're not even in the top 4! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullabletype 987 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 It is of great amusement to me that the "AVB out?" thread has reached 35 pages in length. I can't believe people want to see him go. It's like they haven't learnt anything. If this guy isn't given another few seasons to prove himself then I just don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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