Chelsea Sack Andre Villas-Boas

[Justin_3d 1,140]

This myth that Guardiola is just a lucky passenger on the Barca steamtrain is annoying.

Under Rijkard Barca had just finished 3rd, TEN points behind Villareal and nearly 20 behind Madrid, they had over-egotistical and/or past it players (sound familar?) like Thuram, Zambrotta, Deco, Ronaldinho and Eto'o, he put all 5 up for transfer, 4 left Eto'o only saved himself by a change of attitude but even he was gone the summer after.

Also when Pep took over, Iniesta, Xavi and Messi were obvious talent's but nowhere near the world beating level they are today and what makes Pep extra special is he never stands still.

1st season he wins the treble but still goes straight out in the market for Ibra and Maxwell aswell as promoting Pedro.

2nd season, another league title, does he settle for that? no straight in the market and gets Villa and Mascerano in.

3rd season, 3rd league title in a row do what does he do? sign Sanchez, Cesc and promote Thiago.

Pep has won Barca more titles than the 10 years previous to his takeover where they won 2 Ronaldinho inspired titles.

Pep is just as important to Barca as Messi, if not more.

But what happen to this season?

An injured Iniesta, Messi not in form like past couple of seasons, and Xavi having some of days.

3 most important player that made everything for Barca had nothing to do with Pep.

They are the soul of this great Barca, and it came from the cantera.

The signings you mention clearly points that he has not been that great in the transfer market.

He could sign all he wants but without this triplet of players he ain't achieving anything.

[bluezola 7]

I slightly disagree with you. In MU nobody is bigger than sir alex (he sold beck and stam, because he did not like them) imagine if AVB come to Chelsea and sell lampard,terry and drogba in his first summer. So it is easier for him to motivate the player moreover since the first time I watched MU (yorke/cole/beck) era, MU always play 4-4-2 tactic based on their two great wingers and so for sir alex it's just a matter finding a player that fit into that system.

The main point I was making is that Sir Alex doesn't play players who don't produce performances, nor does he change the system for every game, nor is he satisfied if a player doesn't fulfill his potential regardless of whether the team wins. Yet most of all he instills a belief, to that player that they are good enough to play within the team when picked, so are the best. Sir Alex will always seek to motivate his players in such a positive way even when he is angry with them.

Contrast that with AVB who in all honesty hasn't had many a good word to say about any player since his arrival, nor does he appear to want to instill any confidence or have genuine light hearted rapport with the players. AVB is too pragmatic in his approach.

Just one other thing. It's easy to blame the players but what you have too remember is that the Chelsea heirarchy have removed so many managers in 7 years. This has basically left the players having to fend for themselves in that time. At the end of the day it isn't the players that sack a manager but the board. The players have been left to aid short term managers in order to produce winning performances time and again. Just think about it. How would any of us feel if we had a different manager practically every year. Don't blame the players without first looking at the board.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

The main point I was making is that Sir Alex doesn't play players who don't produce performances, nor does he change the system for every game, nor is he satisfied if a player doesn't fulfill his potential regardless of whether the team wins. Yet most of all he instills a belief, to that player that they are good enough to play within the team when picked, so are the best. Sir Alex will always seek to motivate his players in such a positive way even when he is angry with them.

Contrast that with AVB who in all honesty hasn't had many a good word to say about any player since his arrival, nor does he appear to want to instill any confidence or have genuine light hearted rapport with the players. AVB is too pragmatic in his approach.

Just one other thing. It's easy to blame the players but what you have too remember is that the Chelsea heirarchy have removed so many managers in 7 years. This has basically left the players having to fend for themselves in that time. At the end of the day it isn't the players that sack a manager but the board. The players have been left to aid short term managers in order to produce winning performances time and again. Just think about it. How would any of us feel if we had a different manager practically every year. Don't blame the players without first looking at the board.

:goodpost:

Like I said they will never learn and we will have 100 new managers in a decade!

[bababoom 4,478]

It's a shame many people want AVB to go, Yes, we're playing shit, but most of our players are past it, and not good enough. I am looking forward to the summer plans, i am sure he can rebuild us and make us play the type of football he wants to play. Sadly if we sack him many of the older players will be here next season...

I can live without a trophy for a couple of seasons, shame many people on here cant.

[RX8 40]

I do not know what Chelsea´s Owner or Board Decide about the Worst Coach in the Abramovich´s Era, in that is a Faqs considering the 25 games they both coach... because Boas is 6 points Worst and 2 places down in the table than Phill... and We 1 step and a half out of the CL..... As I was telling U.... No matter who or what they decide.... The course Chelsea y Heading is out of Every European Competition... I belive we will be 6 maybe 5 Lucky in the Final Table.... and the Dressing Rom is a War Zone.... Boas came and has became a Agent of Caos in Chelsea.... I Wonder from who he learn that... Clear ...it was not Mourinho....

[Tomo 21,733]

But what happen to this season?

An injured Iniesta, Messi not in form like past couple of seasons, and Xavi having some of days.

3 most important player that made everything for Barca had nothing to do with Pep.

They are the soul of this great Barca, and it came from the cantera.

The signings you mention clearly points that he has not been that great in the transfer market.

He could sign all he wants but without this triplet of players he ain't achieving anything.

Those players were still around in 07/08 when they flopped horrifically.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Those players were still around in 07/08 when they flopped horrifically.

And if they start flopping now it will be the end of Pep.

[Henri 115]

something tells me you are happy about all this

No am aint Zolayes. But he is the worst coach in Abramoviches era. he is going to drag us deep down

if we dont stop him. But all in all we shouldnt be pissed of by Boas, its the russian idiot and his board

who finally pay for his lack of football knowlegde. The only reason why Boas aint sacked yet is because

he belived in wonder boy, and now what, end of the road or is he starting all over again?. This club is sadly

lead by bunch of morons. I still believe in changes and some of the old guard has to stop in summer and a

new beginning must be made. There is only one thing that can change things for good, get the Roman Empire

out of our club!. He is the bigest MF "glory hunter" of all, and dont fool yourself we loved it,didnt we?. Somehow

i dream of us not getting that 4 place, seriously!.

[Term-X 7,891]

Zonal Marking tweated this, here it is for those who missed it..

Video: Is Roman really ruthless?

[Henri 115]

If Rafa ever becomes Chelsea manager I will seriously worry about my mental state. Surely the Chelsea board cannot be that stupid?

Shocking that 47.42% think Chelsea will be better off with Rafa.

I need a lie down.

You better belive they can!

[zolayes 14,489]

No am aint Zolayes. But he is the worst coach in Abramoviches era. he is going to drag us deep down

if we dont stop him. But all in all we shouldnt be pissed of by Boas, its the russian idiot and his board

who finally pay for his lack of football knowlegde. The only reason why Boas aint sacked yet is because

he belived in wonder boy, and now what, end of the road or is he starting all over again?. This club is sadly

lead by bunch of morons. I still believe in changes and some of the old guard has to stop in summer and a

new beginning must be made. There is only one thing that can change things for good, get the Roman Empire

out of our club!. He is the bigest MF "glory hunter" of all, and dont fool yourself we loved it,didnt we?. Somehow

i dream of us not getting that 4 place, seriously!.

No am aint Zolayes. But he is the worst coach in Abramoviches era. he is going to drag us deep down

if we dont stop him. But all in all we shouldnt be pissed of by Boas, its the russian idiot and his board

who finally pay for his lack of football knowlegde. The only reason why Boas aint sacked yet is because

he belived in wonder boy, and now what, end of the road or is he starting all over again?. This club is sadly

lead by bunch of morons. I still believe in changes and some of the old guard has to stop in summer and a

new beginning must be made. There is only one thing that can change things for good, get the Roman Empire

out of our club!. He is the bigest MF "glory hunter" of all, and dont fool yourself we loved it,didnt we?. Somehow

i dream of us not getting that 4 place, seriously!.

and just who is going to buy him out ...Ken Bates??? or RBS

[LDN Blue 7,903]

AVB proved why he should stay last night.

He has the balls to drop big names when they're not performing. Well played.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

AVB proved why he should stay last night.

He has the balls to drop big names when they're not performing. Well played.

That was also a mistake cause the names that are replacing those are even worse. Lamps would have been more useful than Meireles and Essien had to be more involved.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

That was also a mistake cause the names that are replacing those are even worse. Lamps would have been more useful than Meireles and Essien had to be more involved.

Neither would've had the legs, in my opinion, to control that midfield. Agree that Meiereles isn't the greatest alternative, but for the position he's a safer bet than Lampard would've been. And anyway, look at Lampard's attitude of late, doesn't deserve to play.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Zonal Marking tweated this, here it is for those who missed it..

Video: Is Roman really ruthless?

Great points, but it only highlighst the concept that the board and Roman don't know what they are doing!

[eldo 868]

That was also a mistake cause the names that are replacing those are even worse. Lamps would have been more useful than Meireles and Essien had to be more involved.

You mean Lamps who almost gifted them the foruth, which would mean game over?

Imo Meireles was brought make up the numbers. He's starting because Lampard has been poor this season.

Btw. Can we ever enjoy our season without those questions when is manager going to be sacked, or media and fans questioning his decisions?

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

It seems to me that avb is in a no win situation. The 'big names' apparently are giving him a rough ride so he has to turn to the players who believe in his project ie bos and raul. I know I'd rather start with players I thought would give me 100% over ones who make it clear they wont. Problem is those players aint exactly our top operators right now. You have to admire the guy for sticking to his principles, would have been very easy to just cave in and play the old guard as usual in their usual way in an attempt to keep everyone onside whilst under ever increasing media pressure

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

You mean Lamps who almost gifted them the foruth, which would mean game over?

Imo Meireles was brought make up the numbers. He's starting because Lampard has been poor this season.

Lamps is shoite atm, but a shit Lamps is better than this Meireles. Thank fuck he is suspended.