Murray Sackwild 0 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The primary job of a manager is to motivate and come up with appropriate tactics. AVB is not up to it in either of these roles. Maybe in 10 years time - but right now he's far too experienced. Bring back Hiddinck (or even bring in Capello) for rest of season and bring Jose home in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The primary job of a manager is to motivate and come up with appropriate tactics. AVB is not up to it in either of these roles. Maybe in 10 years time - but right now he's far too experienced. Bring back Hiddinck (or even bring in Capello) for rest of season and bring Jose home in the summer.First off welcome to the forum.And yes i agree, i just don't think he's a good manager, he's shown no signs, he also puts too much faith into things, it's logic not to play highline against Arsenal when we have slow players at the back, but he did it anyway... no good manager would of done that, i highly doubt it, but AVB did, however i'll admit i said put Alex at the back and i probably would of made the same mistake as AVB. But AVB has made stupid decisions all season, even his subs, i just don't think he's up for it, i think Porto was a one off, he is a quality manager he would of showed signs of it, however he hasn't, he's shown how much of an idiot he is and makes no sense most of the time, and these players are playing worse than Carlo's last season, now that's saying something...i hope i'm wrong, i want him to be a great manager, i want a long term manager, sick of switching managers, but i think we are going to have to do it, by the looks of it he doesn't look quite up to it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Sackwild 0 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Sorry AVB - too early in your career. It hasn't worked. It's like Johnny Hollins all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teignman 441 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The problem is that he's just as stubborn as the yid Roman. I can see it now; the new Chelsea coach: Sven Goran "how much will you pay me" Eriksson. Wouldn't that be something.Leave it out pal. Rather uncalled for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teignman 441 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I'm one too, but I get what you are saying. It wasn't meant as an insult, but could easily have been interpreted as one. I wouldn't want to be the Luis Suarez of these forums. Lol. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The primary job of a manager is to motivate and come up with appropriate tactics. AVB is not up to it in either of these roles. Maybe in 10 years time - but right now he's far too experienced. Bring back Hiddinck (or even bring in Capello) for rest of season and bring Jose home in the summer.Interesting take.So the manager has no say on transfer cause the club does all the buying and he has to work with that???Well I remember a certain Mr. Mourinho that could not motivate and bring the best out of a super star like Sheva.....Sorry but I don't buy that. Mourinho left Chelsea because of that exact reason. The club wants to buy their own player and don't let the coach do their own thing.Bringing all these managers won't change squat if the club continues with their policies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 You guys need to realize that sacking him now is pointless and ridiculous, give him till the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 You guys need to realize that sacking him now is pointless and ridiculous, give him till the end of the seasonBut then we can get a better manager in, Henrique looks like he's up for the job, i actually hope he's a candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Oh Gosh! Another AVB thread ...I know AVB has not able to live up to the expectations that everyone has but then how is sacking him a solution to everything. As fans we need to understand that we support the club on the whole and sacking him, getting another manager with his team of support staff will have nothing but financial implications for a club which has already made quite a loss. I know shedding out a few million pounds for Roman is not a big deal (I m sure he would keep letting out those pounds for Chelsea) but then it is high time that we dont keep depending on Roman for anything and everything. With the fair play coming, we need to get our finances right as well.Secondly and importantly, sacking coaches/managers season after season means there is no stability at the club and among the players. The players would always be confident that we would have someone else coming the next season. Stability is the key for any top club and unfortunately that is something missing at ours. I know that AVB has been adamant, one dimensional and at times i really wish that i could punch him on his face for his baffling decisions but as a fan i need to look at the bigger picture and support him as the manager of this club for stability. I hope and pray that whatever is the outcome of this season, AVB is there atleast till the end of his contract. It is not about believing in him at this point of time but believing in the club that we all love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Just a thought but does anyone think that AVB is maybe just a flash in the pan? Yes, he did very well with Porto last season and won the treble with them but you get managers who achieved a lot in their first full season in charge of a club and then go floundering in the next. Not saying this on hindsight but I was never 100% supportive of his appointment mainly because he's still young and pretty much inexperience. Would have preferred him to stayed at Porto, seeing how he deals with the expectation level and the Champions League, against the top teams and top managers. Right now, he just leaves more questions than answers every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Fair play can be easily circumvented, though. What's to stop Roman purchasing a million Chelsea shirts at 100 pound each (using a fake name or bank account of course) to give us a cash inflow? Or something of the sort, like Man City's deal with Etihad.It's not right for us to sack him yet. If he fails to get us to 4th, we need to seriously think about it as not playing in the Champions League is a nightmare scenario for this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The poll in this topic has revived my faith in Chelsea fans. Am I the only one who feels this way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 The poll in this topic has revived my faith in Chelsea fans. Am I the only one who feels this way?If you're talking about the amount of votes in favour of AVB, then i agree. It's good to see sense has prevailed, especially after the amount of 'heat of the moment' posts in yesterday's match topic thread. I like AVB, he's a good figurehead for the club's transition. More than this however, as I said yesterday, for the good of the club he needs to stay simply due to the fact that our squad needs major changes and this begins with consistency in the management setup. If anyone remembers/cares, I was an advocate of keeping Carlo for this exact reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 If you're talking about the amount of votes in favour of AVB, then i agree. It's good to see sense has prevailed, especially after the amount of 'heat of the moment' posts in yesterday's match topic thread.I like AVB, he's a good figurehead for the club's transition. More than this however, as I said yesterday, for the good of the club he needs to stay simply due to the fact that our squad needs major changes and this begins with consistency in the management setup. If anyone remembers/cares, I was an advocate of keeping Carlo for this exact reason.Absolutely. That's why I firmly believe AVB won't get the axe. In previous managerial changes, we were in the race tittle; we'd change the man at the helm, new-manager-syndrome kicks in and we get a few results that catapult us back on track for the title race.This time it is different. The objective is a team overhaul. The process has already started and Andre is at the heart of it all. If a new manager comes in, he'd have practically no knowledge of the players and the team's issues and problems and we'd have thrown 6 months down the drain. I think/hope Roman realizes that, for the sake of our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sainttourist 68 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 You know he is not worth what we paid for him, but with this new fifa rule, I rather get new players then spend 50m on changing managers. He is not hopeless, it just to radical changers for Chelsea team. Playing barca style without any real playmakers except Mata, I didnt get it, how can it work. Cant understand why he didnt buy someone in winter. Ever De Brune can be useful, as Kakuta, but he stick to this box to box players.Maybe we need some changes in club management, we chase many good players this window, AVB talk about 2nd but no one come. And in summer we didnt get Modric. This two tranfers can cost job for AVB, but did it his fault, i dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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