Chelsea Sack Andre Villas-Boas

[zolayes 14,489]

And there is no proof that AVB did snub Lamps. It seems that Frank is not happy with being sidelined. The Sun took that and turned it into this ridiculous story. Let's not confuse rumors from "chelsea insider" with facts.

I thought only Henrique believed the Sun ,,,,seems I was wrong

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I thought only Henrique believed the Sun ,,,,seems I was wrong

It's really amazing how much influence a media source can have on what people see as truth, even with credibility verging on zero.

[zolayes 14,489]

Ramires on AVB

"The way he treats the players is unique. He treats everyone equally, regardless of who they are or how famous they are.

"Every day he speaks to individual players and tries to help solve problems. It's hard to find someone like that.

"He talks and listens to what players say. That makes a difference. He's all smiles and likes to joke around.

"As a person, he's extraordinary and he's also admirable as a coach. My football has grown a lot with his arrival.

interesting ...but don't expect the Sun or Mail to print it

[Ollie 4,400]

I believed this was the case even before the sun's story. Every time AVB gets interviewed and Lampard's name comes up, he changes the subject. I don't believe newspapers, i know when something's up and something's up. In his interview after Man City, AVB was given a question regarding Lampards spirit to come off the bench and taking the penalty after he'd missed 2 pens in a row in a huge situation near the end of a big game, he just dismissed it. I noticed this shit a long time before the fucking sun did.

[Beirut_Blues 306]

Lampard should not be disrespected in any way....by fans or manager...

He should still play regularly.... just as long as he speeds up his game a bit....age does that to footballers but its not something a midfielder cannot overcome....

He doesnt need to run his lungs off....just pass a bit faster;;;;

A little more like ramires and a bit less like Mikel...

Otherwise he is class and should remain in the spine of our team atleast till next season,,,,then re assess where he is at.

BUT....if we have to change our style of play... We need space in midfield for another player.... Catch 22

Can't teach an old dog new tricks mate.... he's been playing his own straight-forward style at Chelsea for a decade which made him one of the best midfielders in the world with his 20+ goals a season.

AVB is tasked with rebuilding the team but Lamps' style and his age get in the way of that unfortunately.

You could imagine AVB snubbing him as a way of pushing him out of the club perhaps - I mean i wouldn't be surprised if he left this summer, and we've seen Jose do it with Raul instantly at Madrid.

We have to admit his form has declined drastically and he even slows the play - i hope he keeps getting those goals as we saw yesterday but I don't think AVB would want to keep him past the summer.

[Sheva. 5,373]

I believed this was the case even before the sun's story. Every time AVB gets interviewed and Lampard's name comes up, he changes the subject. I don't believe newspapers, i know when something's up and something's up. In his interview after Man City, AVB was given a question regarding Lampards spirit to come off the bench and taking the penalty after he'd missed 2 pens in a row in a huge situation near the end of a big game, he just dismissed it. I noticed this shit a long time before the fucking sun did.

Not just Lampard, he does that all the time.

[Kez 2,727]

Can we stop fucking insulting each other & keep on topic. It's getting beyond a joke now, if you have nothing constructive to say about the topic then refrain from typing mindless insults & pressing the post button.

[Swedish House Mafia 508]

*Apparently* players like Anelka, Drogba, Lampard, Malouda, Alex and Ferriera were on AVB's bye bye list at the end of the 2012 season since the first day he arrived at Stamford Bridge.

I applaud him for that.

[Tomo 21,751]

*Apparently* players like Anelka, Drogba, Lampard, Malouda, Alex and Ferriera were on AVB's bye bye list at the end of the 2012 season since the first day he arrived at Stamford Bridge.

I applaud him for that.

How come he didn't do a Guadiola and ship a couple of them out early?

[St Abramovich 175]

How come he didn't do a Guadiola and ship a couple of them out early?

Can you imagine the effect that would have had on the rest of the squad's opinions of him. It would have been a disaster especially with the dynamic we have at this club in particular.

[Madmax 9,219]

How come he didn't do a Guadiola and ship a couple of them out early?

And replace them with who?

[Kostas 1,468]

Haven't visited this topic in a while so I may be responding to some quite old posts/views.

As things stand today, the biggest culprit - and by far - for our lamentable state of form is Gourlay and co, or whatever their names, the people who are running our transfers for the four previous years. This isn't André's fault, nor Ancelotti's, nor Lampard's if our midfield is one of the most negative of the Premier League. No, it is the fault of the yes-men in Armani suit who have only bought defensive midfielders and didn't think it was necessary to bring a playmaker. It is them who have though for many years that a striker can play just as well on the wings. It is them who have been pleased with those overpaid deadwoods who do not give a shit.

Good enough post to lock this thread for a while

Be so funny if Styles came back and made a AVB out thread.

That's just dissrespectful to the quality poster that Styles was and the valid criticism that thread had (for the first 10 pages or so).

[...]

The main rule with football management is.

1st year - Assess the situation.

2nd year - Make changes.

3rd year - Stamp your authority.

Now do you really want another new manager in the summer who will "access" Malouda, Bosingwa and co and give them yet another chance, because that will happen.

The well fed "superstars" need to fuck off not AVB.

Now this is the area I feel AVB deserves the most critisism.

At this level and taking into account the risk we took with him he had plenty of time to assess the situation. From him signing his contract to before and during the pre-season tour and even later.

He is one of the persons in the Chelsea hierarchy responsible for entering the transfer market extremely late and therefore should take part of the blame for the either insuffisient or false assessment of our situation.

On more recent events and as far as AVB is concerned, the last 3-4 weeks have been very disappointing in terms of performances and substitutions*.

The Fulham game was the worst CFC game I've seen since Blackburn/Blackpool away in early 2010 (what a dross of a match) and against Villa and Wolves we were as uncreative as we were 10-12 moths ago (if that's even possible).

The Ferreira-Bosingwa subs would have been chuckle-worthy had they not resembled so much Ancelotti-changes and made me more worried than I was at any part of the season. Moreover, that fact that he broke his norm of using all 3 subs in league games in a match where he actually had a very young bench is another troubling point, giving McEachran <10 mins considering how non-existent our midfield was is hopefully only a result of being under pressure.

On another matter our two only trustworthy sources of creativity (Mata, Sturridge) are in bad need of rest and AVB seems as reluctant as I am to come to terms with it. Giving them that rest reveals that we have no sufficient cover and it will be interesting to see how the manager will respond during ACN and the January transfer period.

*Results too but I feel/felt like punching Cech and Bosingwa for those more that AVB.

[Kojo 4,676]

Haven't visited this topic in a while so I may be responding to some quite old posts/views.

Good enough post to lock this thread for a while

That's just dissrespectful to the quality poster that Styles was and the valid criticism that thread had (for the first 10 pages or so).

Now this is the area I feel AVB deserves the most critisism.

At this level and taking into account the risk we took with him he had plenty of time to assess the situation. From him signing his contract to before and during the pre-season tour and even later.

He is one of the persons in the Chelsea hierarchy responsible for entering the transfer market extremely late and therefore should take part of the blame for the either insuffisient or false assessment of our situation.

On more recent events and as far as AVB is concerned, the last 3-4 weeks have been very disappointing in terms of performances and substitutions*.

The Fulham game was the worst CFC game I've seen since Blackburn/Blackpool away in early 2010 (what a dross of a match) and against Villa and Wolves we were as uncreative as we were 10-12 moths ago (if that's even possible).

The Ferreira-Bosingwa subs would have been chuckle-worthy had they not resembled so much Ancelotti-changes and made me more worried than I was at any part of the season. Moreover, that fact that he broke his norm of using all 3 subs in league games in a match where he actually had a very young bench is another troubling point, giving McEachran <10 mins considering how non-existent our midfield was is hopefully only a result of being under pressure.

On another matter our two only trustworthy sources of creativity (Mata, Sturridge) are in bad need of rest and AVB seems as reluctant as I am to come to terms with it. Giving them that rest reveals that we have no sufficient cover and it will be interesting to see how the manager will respond during ACN and the January transfer period.

*Results too but I feel/felt like punching Cech and Bosingwa for those more that AVB.

How's it disrespectful?, I never said he was shit, he was a quality poster I thought, but it was his opinion if he wanted Carlo out, I couldn't really blame him at the time.

[Caeruleus 1,148]

I made this for him:

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/4738/cfcwallpaper600.jpg

[BlueLion. 21,491]

How come he didn't do a Guadiola and ship a couple of them out early?

Guardiola was a Barcelona legend and already well connected with the club management, so he could do something like that without the fans getting angry.

If Villas-Boas came into Chelsea, told Drogba, Terry and Lampard to pack their bags and leave, there would be fucking uproar because this 'nobody' would be coming into the club and rearranging the furniture.

[Henrique 9,133]

Guardiola was a Barcelona legend and already well connected with the club management, so he could do something like that without the fans getting angry.

If Villas-Boas came into Chelsea, told Drogba, Terry and Lampard to pack their bags and leave, there would be fucking uproar because this 'nobody' would be coming into the club and rearranging the furniture.

This is his greatest mistake. Our squad is bad and this situation was predictable. But he refused to ask some players to leave, and 4 moths later he humiliated Anelka and Alex, Kalou and Malouda are dead man walking, why they did not leave in summer?

So, he has a huge part in our current situation.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

I agree with Henrique in that if there is one thing I will give him grief for was his stupid policy of "evolution" and not "revolution" in the summer. Yet a lot of the players he has relied on have let him down badly (just like with Carlo). Should of told some of the 30+ plus players to go, and if there was going to be temper tantrums then he should of given them a slap in the face and told them to piss off. I'm sorry but with the amount of player power in this team, something harsh has to be done.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

Guardiola was a Barcelona legend and already well connected with the club management, so he could do something like that without the fans getting angry.

If Villas-Boas came into Chelsea, told Drogba, Terry and Lampard to pack their bags and leave, there would be fucking uproar because this 'nobody' would be coming into the club and rearranging the furniture.

I don't think so. There was a lot of optimism with his signing and lot of people on Chelsea forums agreed that big changes had to happen. If there was anyone who would be angry if he did make big changes were the ones who had to much sentiment to the status quo.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

I agree with Henrique in that if there is one thing I will give him grief for was his stupid policy of "evolution" and not "revolution" in the summer. Yet a lot of the players he has relied on have let him down badly (just like with Carlo). Should of told some of the 30+ plus players to go, and if there was going to be temper tantrums then he should of given them a slap in the face and told them to piss off. I'm sorry but with the amount of player power in this team, something harsh has to be done.

Thank you! That's exactly how I feel in hindsight. However his thinking (I assume) was that they would perform well or atleast with dignity becuz they want to earn an extension to their contracts and had performed a pretty remarkable comeback in the league after everyone writ us off. Unfortunately his age coupled with his treatment of nico and Alex, especially someone of calibre of nico made EVERYONE turn their heads and look over their shoulders. Plus then the failure to involve kalou and Malouda both replaced by Studge and mata, made drogs in a way challenge avb to see if he's got the guts to drop him in favor of Torres which we all know he didn't. But all in all I truly like avb and want him to lead the overhaul, nobody else.

[Blue Armour 4,439]

Thank you! That's exactly how I feel in hindsight. However his thinking (I assume) was that they would perform well or atleast with dignity becuz they want to earn an extension to their contracts and had performed a pretty remarkable comeback in the league after everyone writ us off. Unfortunately his age coupled with his treatment of nico and Alex, especially someone of calibre of nico made EVERYONE turn their heads and look over their shoulders. Plus then the failure to involve kalou and Malouda both replaced by Studge and mata, made drogs in a way challenge avb to see if he's got the guts to drop him in favor of Torres which we all know he didn't. But all in all I truly like avb and want him to lead the overhaul, nobody else.

What's that supposed to mean? AVB chose Drogba at the time, because during that period Didier's level of play was far superior to what Torres had....