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Will be a meltdown on here if it doesn’t happen for whatever reason and somebody else goes and signs Enzo in the summer 😂 I think this transfer this month has been built up as its now or never (as in January only) and I would totally agree that it’s that sense. We 100% won’t get a clean run at him in the summer and will be outside the CL spots undoubtedly so I don’t think he will move here come the summer. We better hope there is a plan B, and has Jorginho officially moved to Arsenal or not?

It is arrogant. Benfica have actually got huge footballing history and have been key in the development of some hugely talented footballers and managers careers. Not just a piddly wee club. I mean saying “nothing more than a feeder club for the elite around Europe” do you not see how arrogant that sounds 🤣? I mean we are sitting 10th in the PL FFS not as if we are exactly a shining beacon of an elite level football club at present, are we? I get there is frustration around how they are sticking to their guns but belittling a club like Benfica is odd. Fully agree. I get its tense in here with the Fernandez saga but don’t think the Benfica fan started it. It seems as if the deals been in a state of animation for hours now. It went from it was basically done to it was now close. Now its perceived not to be close. Hardly as if its the guys fault is it 😂 but I suppose any excuse to vent off frustrations…. Pretty sure one of our members belittled his club first.

Now that is an extremely arrogant comment. Lets get this straight, currently, we are sitting 10th lol. Natural order of things or not, Benfica well within their right and if the shoe were on other foot we’d be praising our board for their stance.

True haha

Its not just that though is it? Its always been the structure of the deal. If we put the full sum there it would remove all doubts and mean its legally binding that they have to accept it. It is as much Boehly & co in the limelight as it is Rui Costa I feel. It was always going to be complicated regardless unless it was done one way: the way Benfica wanted it done ie. full clause but they don’t want to/can’t do that for financial reasoning. Apparently.

Yep Boehly & co have set a precedent, particularly with the Mudryck deal I feel. People saying “why keep the player he wants to go”, “they wont get this money again”, “their making a huge profit if they sell for price X, Y or Z” they don’t realise Benfica is Rui Costa’s first priority, not Enzo Fernandez or not Chelsea. But arrogance is bliss and people think because we’ve offered what we perceive as a good deal they should accept it blindly. As is always the case here and in particular has been with this whole Enzo Fernandez saga 😂

In that case might as well say i may end up dating Dua Lipa. Holds about the same weight as us winning the CL this year 🤣

🤣 CL medal this season? I hope your joking So the big masterplan is to replace Jorginho with Andrey Santos…. great…. replacing a good technical midfielder with someone who at u20 level looks bang average technically and passes it backwards/sideways under no pressure. If we dont Enzo we are depending on Kovacic remaining fit all season then for a more technical ball playing midfielder.

Would say he looks a lot more direct than Hazard tbf, a lot more. In the Shakhtar v Celtic games Shakhtar used him as an outlet as Celtic are predominantly geared up towards being a possession based team under Postecoglu and he was very very direct. Hazard sometimes for me I think he just loved coming for the ball and trying to take players on too much instead of just running into space and being a bit more direct. Robben maybe a more appropriate comparison or Bale? Although they say the boy we signed from PSV similar to Robben also.

Hardly a Chelsea reject. But whatever floats your boat….. if we weren’t getting Enzo he would of been staying here. I still think might of been wise just to keep him to the summer in case also because Kovacic is always in and out with niggling injuries and if Enzo gets injured/doesn't happen/struggles at first then he would he a safe option to use. Lets hope Enzo comes in and hits the ground running but if he doesn’t hypothetically then who we going to rely on in there? I don’t think anybody can discredit Jorginho’s spell here, he suffered a lot of flak at the beginning, was Sarri’s son, was responsible for Cesc not playing (his legs were gone anyway), not good enough, even half the media and pundits were making him scapegoats etc on top of the other things. Only going on to be made vice captain a year later and leaves having won some big big trophies as well as from what I’ve gathered about how the younger players and former coaches talked about him a very good guy to have in the dressing room. But Chelsea reject ok…

Would say Arsenals system will suit him because they are further along than we are in terms of the style and tactical set up. Plus Zinchenko and Ben White playing as inverted fullbacks will give him greater protection and options in there. Doubtful he will play every game but he will give them enough. Just have to hope Kovacic can stay fit now because he and Enzo are really the only sort of MFers we have capable of controlling a game. Still surprised they didn’t go for an alternative for Caicedo, they need a more defensive minded player to rotate/swap out with Partey I feel now hes injured.

How much is good money though? 10m? 15m? I’ve seen people saying daft figures but dont forget he’s only got 6 months on his deal and on a decent wage. Plus he will have his pick of clubs in the summer so he might not want to move either because it will maybe be more financially beneficial to wait to the summer and get a big sign on fee. Plus his agent said he wanted to renew here so its not a given he would want to go there or anywhere this window. Anyone thinking we will get 25-30m or above for a 31 year old are living in cuckoo land. If anything its likely it would be closer or similar to the deal we got for David Luiz or Petr Cech. Particularly if the impression is we are willing to let him go now or wont renew him so he can leave at the end of the season regardless. I mean its not going to be that profitable to sell Jorginho in all honesty is it?

Personally if Arsenal are struggling for MF depth, we shouldn’t give them any of our players. I mean their top of the league just let them go get someone else at a higher price or get nobody, overplay their boys and fizzle out. Jorginho still has a part to play this season, or so I would think. Even if its not as often but until I see Enzo holding a Chelsea shirt I wouldn’t get too excited about Jorginho leaving yet. And if Enzo Fernandez comes in and doesn’t hit the ground running then again, its a problem to sell Jorginho IMO. If Ruben is fucked off though and Ziyech leaves on loan (which tbf for his profile in the squad is a bit annoying a left footed right sider) then it’ll be good business. Although I would much prefer it was Pulisic, but his injuries have fucked that up for us, we are never gonna get any half decent fee for him because hes never fit.

“Set to be fit to start” they said that last time. Ease him back in FFS. Amateur hour if he starts and doesn’t come through it like last time. Was already amateurish GP started him last time without bleeding him back into the team gradually, would be utterly fucking ridiculous if he did it again.

If we get Enzo over the line alongside the other signings we’ve made this window, we HAVE to see some sort of improvement from the team under him now. Not saying we will make top 4 but top 6 surely has to be a guarantee this season now for the financial outlay and players that have come in. Would be the same for any other manager so can’t be any different for Graham Potter.

No way we get Enzo and Caicedo. Would be madness. But hey ho who knows. Personally think Caicedo is good but not worth more than 50m

Argument/fall out because he told him he would be benched v Arsenal apparently. Some deal for Bayern what a player he is

U21s dont need to be registered though so would imagine Carney, Hall and Broja would be exempt and would free up spaces? Although they could still be registered if the club wanted to Was also talks we didn’t want to deal with Newcastle for Ziyech because they are in direct competition for top 4 with us (although their miles ahead of us)….. so wouldn’t bet on a move to NUFC being a sure thing yet

Hes apparently already turned them down. Was reported last week he wanted to stay and fight for his place as opposed to go to Everton or Newcastle.

Already got Rico Lewis and Kyle Walker there which is apparently why they were keen to let him go. More LB their struggling with although Ake has done well, wouldn’t be surprised if they prioritised a more natural left footed LB as I think Gomez has struggled to convince them. But again not many of them out there, maybe they’re a bit regretful letting Zinchenko go.

Is it? Didn’t realise ending so soon but even then, still doesn't rule it out but makes it more unlikely.

Wouldn't even bother hugely about the buyback but I’d imagine the new regime may see that as a good idea. Same with CHO maybe if he goes in the summer?

Dyce in at Everton, 2.5 year deal. Actually think this is the best appointment Everton have made in a long long time, he will cut the bullshit and get rid of the big boys in there who aren’t performing. Has shown at times with Burnley he can get them punching above their weight and I do remember there was an 12-18 months where they were a pretty solid team who played some alright stuff considering his reputation. Lack of investment killed them and his chances of improving that though. Suppose we will see what he can do with more cash at Everton if he keeps them up.

£50m? We’re never going to get an offer as good as £40m upfront + 5m add ons for him ever again FFS unless he plays every game and turns into some sort of very good player in the second half of the season 😂 Just sell him for that, would be a very very good deal for us. Plus we have an overbloated squad as it is, trying to get another £5m for someone who isn’t ready to play at this level or been regular here is just asking for trouble when you take into consideration he came through the academy too so its not like we aren’t making a huge profit. Asking for more just risks Everton walking away. I don’t think anybody would pay £50m for Connor.

Yeah. We can’t keep persisting with these types of players as our main striking options. Nkunku isnt a CF. Felix isnt a CF. We’ve had a number 10 upfront for almost 2.5 years now and he hasn’t done enough. Werner even played through the middle at times with Frank, again, ill fitted. Someone who is more of a recognised striker is a must at some point if we are serious about winning trophies. Obviously the hardest position to buy in but we have to get someone who fits that mould. Obviously has to be the right player but where is the goals coming from in this team? This season? We needed a striker last summer. We still need one. Nkunku and Felix aren’t strikers. Fofana is a CF but is he ready?