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Even Timo Werner would of scored at least 2 of those 4 big chances he had in that game yesterday. And he’s also quite prone to shitting the bed in front of goal. Horrendous footballer.

I’m pretty certain Nagelsmann would be categorised as an elite manager despite Bayern maybe not being as good as people expect them to be at present. I still think his work in Germany has been pretty good all things considered ie the clubs he was at before, his age and lack of/amount of coaching experience and how his careers progressed so far. Personally I think Bayern are in a funny moment. I mean they’ve let 2 serial winners, who were experienced and world class talents in Thiago and Lewandowski leave in recent windows without replacing them with ready made/like for like quality so there was always going to be the inevitability that they’d maybe not be the same team they were without them/performances may drop because they were key players (although Mane is world class but signing him as an out and out CF to replace Lewa is a bit mad). Particularly Lewandowski who I think makes the difference in most sides despite his age. As well the fact they’ve sort of overhauled their squad over the past 4 or 5 seasons with younger players coming in and older ones leaving ie Hummels, Boateng, Javi Martinez, Douglas Costa, Robben, Ribery. Or at least thats how I see it re Nagelsmann and Bayern. I mean Hansi Flick did an exceptional job there without really being regarded as an exceptional manager but Kovac, who is a decent enough manager - not elite though - struggled there and Ancelotti has also struggled there. I would say Nagelsmann is doing better than those 2. Probably the same scenario that Juventus had a few seasons ago, a lot of aging players needing changed out, fresh blood needed, perhaps a new style/adaption of their style needed - but they didn’t do it quickly enough and now they are in the scenario which they are in where if they’d maybe done it sooner it would of been smoother. I don’t think Bayern are in a similar scenario because they didn’t leave it last minute they’ve managed to refresh an older group pretty well over 5 to 6 years.

Apparently so… I mean I doubt it. But here we are. Potter will one day become a good manager but he will never be an elite manager like the Contes, Joses, Peps, Klopps, Carlos, Tuchels, Nagelsmanns etc. And ultimately in the long run, that will only get us so far. So let’s see how things go. I am a bit concerned about the next 12-18 months if I am honest. I mean he doesn’t even have the pedigree that ten Hag and even Brendan Rodgers to a lesser extent have and I doubt we will give him the 2.5 seasons of mediocrity like Artetas gotten (which is by the skin of his teeth - as fans were eager to chuck him multiple times before this season) at Arsenal. I mean the ruthless firing and hiring culture from the last regime, even now with a new owner in place, will always lurk in the background. Always. Because it was successful also - yielding a lot of results. It certainly remains to be seen if Boehly will stick with his plan. Plus with continued investment that will be at City and potentially new investment coming in at Liverpool and Man United at some point in say the next 12 or 18 months or so, it remains to be seen IF enough progress will be made with GP to satisfy it. I mean I am a bit worried that if both United and Liverpool get new owners, new investment, that it could change the game for us again if we waste another 12-18 months fannying about. We are in a position now this season where we are looking at the likes of Man United and Spurs as opposed to us trying to close the gap to the top two teams of last season. Plus Arsenal leapfrogging out of nowhere too surprisingly. Its difficult to see what the goal for this season is atm, is it top 4? is it top 6? Dare I say it…. is it top 8?

Ronaldo, Bailey and Pickford linked with us in the last week. Yep Todd Boehly is 100% clueless. If anyone was in doubt before they shouldn't be now. The guy is absolutely shocking. Is it too early to ask for new owners? 😂

Poor for both goals. In a real bad spell ATM

Bit annoyed at the vast pundits, out in Qatar, heavily criticising Qatar for their cultures and laws (although the culture and law is an absolute shambles and the discrimination and human rights out there are a joke). Talk about hypocrisy at its finest, their getting paid to be there. Surely a bigger statement would be not to go - send a real message. Everyone of them from Gary Neville to Rio Ferdinand to Alex Scott, the financial side of things clearly outweigh sending the right message. Also the FAs who bottled the one love captain armbands are a joke. Don’t say your going to make a statement if your not going to, embarrassing.

He has had a pretty consistent run of games under TT and Potter in the last 2/2.5 seasons who play the same formations and basically have similar footballing ideologies/philosophies though and still hasn’t really done anything where you go “wow” or performed consistently over large periods. Even this season, looking at individual moments, I mean barring the screamer he scored against Salzburg I am struggling to think of any hugely notable contributions/performances. That Calvin Klein advert is… well… sums up his career at the moment. In fact it will probably make his season highlight reel/compilation come the end of the season because I doubt he will do a great deal footballing wise to fill it up. Honestly would say unless he has a good world cup, we will probably end up selling him for 40-50m in the summer.

Selling Kante for 18m would be a mistake. Couldn't believe the reports and if their true, then whatever little faith left in Boehly I have - virtually none existent as it is - will be gone completely. We need to get someone in younger yes but selling Kante outright would be a huge error - still can deliver in big games. Fitness has been a problem but you can see the difference in our team with a fully fit Kante compared to without, its night and day. I think he could be used in the same way Jose used Maka in his last season. Be like the Matic-Bakayoko thing all over again although those two weren’t at the level of Kante and Rice. For me, Matic definitely had another season at least of use here and he would of got the minutes for sure as Conte was a huge fan. Just the financial offer was too great to say no to at that age although even Conte admitted he wanted to keep him. I am still skeptical at how good Rice will be at a top club, considering the inevitable 100m+ price. I mean his progression has been good and steady but West Ham are still a pretty pragmatic team a lot of the time. England are also a pragmatic team too. He suits the profile of what we need though. Its just if he can go and up his game and compete against some of these top top level MFers out there regularly.

Yet “Tuchel didnt know how to build a team” and all 3 of them “should be bench warmers now” if you read half the pages on here. Why when we were tactically at our best under TT did they shine?

What a waste of the best years of a otherwise top career. Stupid cunt.

Should of stuck to baseball. This seasons dead rubber after sacking Tuchel.

We must be the best team in the world at having the ball in the oppositions half at a throw in or free kick and somehow endint up passing it back to the GK. Utter pish. Calling it now - Graham Potter will not be Chelsea manager next season 100%.

We were bad under Tuchel for a while yes but you’d think he had some credit in the bank no? To turn it around? 6 cup finals, 3 trophies in 2 years more or less. And even more so considering he was given £250m worth of new players. I mean I wish people would just stop saying ‘people seem to forget we were bad under Tuchel’ to try and make Graham Potter look a better choice. I mean this is based on what? Getting promoted in Sweden 3 times? Achieving a 9th place finish with Brighton and then another good 7 or 8 weeks the following season? I mean his credentials are underwhelming compared to everyone we have had in the Roman era bar Lampard. I mean we were bad under Conte after winning the premier league and we were bad under Jose after winning the premier league - does that necessarily mean Conte and Jose are bad managers? Or that Tuchel is because of 10 month period where people also deliberately tend to FORGET in it that he had to deal with the: 1) Lukaku situation from that interview 2) the will it happen, wont it happen sale circus 3) Roman questions and everything surrounding the links to Putin 4)the other Ukraine-Russia questions because of the above I mean cmon. Use your head. Its easy to say we were bad but it would be a bad time for any manager in the world to be in charge of us. Yet alone someone who set the bar so high in his first 6 months. I mean there was all sorts going on. I am 90% sure we would still be making top 4 with Tuchel in charge this season, even based on the last 10 months or so of performances here as opposed to now with Graham Potter. That is my honest opinion. I mean GP can maybe get things moving in the other way again, he’s shown he’s a half decent manager with Brighton but doing a half decent job here isn’t necessarily going to cut it - particularly if we don't make top 4 this season. Even more so considering he looks a bit out of his depth. I think by the time we go to play Dortmund, if we aren’t in the running for top 4 or 5, it will have been a catastrophic mistake.

Cant afford to lose this one. Already on a bad run as it is. Last game before the world cup too isn’t it? So must win somehow. Don't care how. Just win. Not even hugely confident as Newcastle are flying right now too and have that feel good factor about them. But you never know.

Hassenhuttl sacked. How he lasted this long in the PL with his dogshit brand of football which is solely focused on outrunning teams and no quality I will never never know… remember when people wanted him here too 🤣 wow

Not necessarily. But if he didn’t deliver here in your eyes then no manager ever will. The first year he was here I think his record was pretty good. Lets see where we finish this season and if its close to 75 points or not with Graham Potter. If he makes it to the end of the season. The early signs are looking unlikely after an initial good start (although performances weren’t necessarily that good and I always said better teams than depleted AC Milans, Salzburgs, Palaces etc will take points off us as we conceded too many easy chances) - thats now games v Man Utd, Brighton and Arsenal where we have been outmanoeuvred tactically and even worse, in terms of quality, effort and desire.

No. Thats not what I said. Should never have gotten rid of Tuchel. Thats firmly on Todd Boehlys shoulders as is ultimately how this season goes as hes gambled big time with Potter. Are you honestly summing up Tuchel’s whole spell here on his last 6 games? Jesus christ. Why do I even bother.

Precisely. Wasnt great with TT this season or at times last season but at least we were much more difficult to play against because we would compete. And he could change it up/compete tactically also with the big managers. City are probably going to put 4 or 5 past us if Haaland plays. Foreign managers are ruthless, not afraid to throw people under the bus because they aren’t afraid of telling the truth. Tuchel was even doing this in pre-season. In contrast - British managers aren’t, its going to be a long season. I mean did he really say credit to the boys they gave everything after that shite, or something along those lines?

Lets be honest, its took City how long to have things in place for Pep? 3/4 years? And thats for Pep who is a world class manager/the best manager at the moment. Its going to take significantly longer for most clubs regardless of managers, never mind Graham Potter - to get us anything close to City because they’ve had everything in place for years. If anything, Tuchel was the man to give this infrastructure and time to. 6 finals of which he won 3 in 2 years is as good as it gets for most managers. And in the 3 we lost, 2 on penalties and 1 by a long shot goal. The only realistic thing that will really help us close the gap sooner is Pep leaving City because they wont get anybody who is as world class as Pep for that group of players. Lets be realistic - We won’t be catching City with Graham Potter either - I am sorry to say but he just doesn’t have enough about him to propel us closer like TT did. And even then, is Todd Boehly really going to get everything in place correct the first time around? I doubt it. He’s new to football. So there will be mistakes (more mistakes).

Cucurella at LCB and Sterling at LWB Put your house on it.

Least we know he won’t score at the Bridge. Seen enough to know that first hand for 2 seasons.

Need to be more clinical. Again, same as v Salzburg, much better quality teams will punish us if we don’t kill games off sooner. Big worry for Chilwell now. And I’ll keep saying it but Sterling playing as a winger/forward = goals, Sterling playing as a wing back = pointless. Hopefully be the last we see of that shit now.

Not sure what they have been watching tonight. Wouldn't say he was impressive. At all.

Another Havertz disaster class finished. Thank god. Offers nothing.

Sterling goal. Get in. See dont play him as a wing back and he gets in and around the box. Gets chances. Scores. Watch him play LWB v Arsenal though 😂