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Vybz Kartel

Gareth Bale

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22 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Walker-Peters is a youngster that started his career at Tottenham, born/brought up in the area and reluctant to leave London whilst Bale is willing to throw away what is meant to be his prime years. The two examples couldn't be further apart from one another.

Walker Peters is never going to play regularly for Spurs and has had numerous chances to move, also he is 22 year olds and has only played 19 times for Spurs since 2015. Its same scenario as Bale not wanting to leave. Different reasons maybe but still sit and take the money at a top club or go elsewhere.

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2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Walker Peters is never going to play regularly for Spurs and has had numerous chances to move, also he is 22 year olds and has only played 19 times for Spurs since 2015. Its same scenario as Bale not wanting to leave. Different reasons maybe but still sit and take the money at a top club or go elsewhere.

Trippier could be off, so it will be either him or Aurier. Whether he ever gets a run to prove himself is a different story. Bale's reasoning is solely money motivated.

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2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Tbf for the 17m a year when he clearly doesnt want to leave, unless Real Madrid dont register him which I severely doubt they would do to someone who can offer quality, its hardly bizarre. I mean even then look at Gary and Drinkwater here knew they wouldnt play but were happy to sit and collect their 100 or 120k a week or whatever despite not playing or being conaidered by their managers as important. Or look at other players of various levels at other clubs, the guy Kyle Walker-Peters at Spurs signed a new deal on decent wages for a 22 year old who plays maybe 10 times a season... its modern day football, nothing is suprising anymore. Clubs want players sign them up on huge deals offering huge sums of money all the time only for a manager to decide to chuck them. Look at Martial and Luke Shaw at United, Jose wanted to bin them and they eventually outlasted him. Theres every chance Bale outlasts Zidane at Real as he has a long contract on huge money.

Getting paid a lot is one thing but is it really worth it when you're getting disrespected by everyone around every week? Does he not have some dignity? Is he genuinely happy by wasting his years as a footballer just like that?

The difference between Bale and the likes of Cahill, Drinkwater is that they don't get disrespected by people around on a weekly basis. And for everyone player like that, there's always those who prefer to leave for playing time rather than staying for the money. IIRC, didn't Fabregas, for example, get paid 150k p/w here but chose to leave anyway because he wanted to play regularly? 

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1 hour ago, the wes said:

Gareth Bale has an offer from Chelsea to join the club next summer in a €60m deal, according to El Desmarque.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/claim-real-madrid-forward-chelsea-offer-next-summer-la-liga-club-different-idea-mind/

Noooo he's done :middlefinger:

straight swap, Willian for Bale

done and dusted

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12 minutes ago, Vesper said:

straight swap, Willian for Bale

done and dusted

What has bale done in the last 2 years to be swapped with willy exactly? He can't score against joke defences of la liga, he is injured half the season. 

 

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12 minutes ago, 1905didierblue said:

What has bale done in the last 2 years to be swapped with willy exactly? He can't score against joke defences of la liga, he is injured half the season. 

 

What has Willian done in the last 5 years exactly? He can't score to save his life.

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26 minutes ago, 1905didierblue said:

What has bale done in the last 2 years to be swapped with willy exactly? He can't score against joke defences of la liga, he is injured half the season. 

 

Regardless he has got over 100 goals for Real. Dont think he cant score or is inferior to Willian in any facets of his game. Wages would be an issue and his age isnt exactly helpful either but I think people seem to take the notion that because Zidane doesnt fancy Bale that he is a shit player. He is not.

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Bale, I feel, is the kind of player who would pick himself up again in a different non-toxic environment. I think Lampard could work well with him and Premier League suits him. If we dump Willian or Pedro, then I wouldn't mind Bale taking over that squad rotation role, providing competition and experience while Pulisic learns his trade. BUT only if his wages match his real value, considering his age and injury record. Would also be a welcome goal threat to have.

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One of the most underrated  players of the last decade; he'd lift this club to another level instantly (if he stays fit)

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15 minutes ago, manpe said:

Bale, I feel, is the kind of player who would pick himself up again in a different non-toxic environment. I think Lampard could work well with him and Premier League suits him. If we dump Willian or Pedro, then I wouldn't mind Bale taking over that squad rotation role, providing competition and experience while Pulisic learns his trade. BUT only if his wages match his real value, considering his age and injury record. Would also be a welcome goal threat to have.

Bale turns 31 next year and given his injury record, can he survive the physicality of the Premier League? How long does he have left at the top level? Moreover, we all know the club's stance on players over 30 years old (Bale's poor injury record is going to count against him here) and with him earning something like 300k p/w at Madrid, there's no way we will pursue him. It's best for the club to pursue younger players than one who's gonna be over the hill very soon.

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1 hour ago, 1905didierblue said:

What has bale done in the last 2 years to be swapped with willy exactly? He can't score against joke defences of la liga, he is injured half the season. 

 

sell him on, he is worth a shit tonne more than a 32yo Willian will be

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One of the most underrated  players of the last decade; he'd lift this club to another level instantly (if he stays fit)

He was in Ronaldo's shadow like many others at Madrid & his injury record speaks for itself. His next move will either reignite his career or immediately end it (in football terms).

 

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1 minute ago, Jason said:

Bale turns 31 next year and given his injury record, can he survive the physicality of the Premier League? How long does he have left at the top level? Moreover, we all know the club's stance on players over 30 years old (Bale's poor injury record is going to count against him here) and with him earning something like 300k p/w at Madrid, there's no way we will pursue him. It's best for the club to pursue younger players than one who's gonna be over the hill very soon.

Hence why I said only if he was cheap. Having him for a year for cheap, I wouldn't mind to see how that would work out, but it's probably not feasible from Bale's POV as he would likely pursue more than 1 year and on higher wages than I have in mind.

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39 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

He was in Ronaldo's shadow like many others at Madrid & his injury record speaks for itself. His next move will either reignite his career or immediately end it (in football terms).

 

Everyone was in Ronaldo's shadow. Injuries ruined his career; a fit Bale is (was) terrifying.

I wouldn't be suprised if he'd revive his career in Madrid; he's playing well right now and seems to have come to terms with Zidane

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Everyone was in Ronaldo's shadow. Injuries ruined his career; a fit Bale is (was) terrifying.
I wouldn't be suprised if he'd revive his career in Madrid; he's playing well right now and seems to have come to terms with Zidane
He supposedly wants out in Jan & would be happy to sit out till then. His time at Madrid is all but done (whilst Zidane is in the frame).

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I don't think he will ever find peace in Madrid. Over there he will always be compared to CR7 which is just unfair.

On the other hand, here he would be compared to Willian and Pedro

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4 hours ago, the wes said:

Gareth Bale has an offer from Chelsea to join the club next summer in a €60m deal, according to El Desmarque.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/claim-real-madrid-forward-chelsea-offer-next-summer-la-liga-club-different-idea-mind/

Noooo he's done :middlefinger:

I wouldnt pay a dime for him. A swap with Willy just maybe. EPL is tough and he is way too injury prone.......plus the wages etc. Let him go to spurs, they will do a nice wankathon everytime he touches the ball and 2 weeks later he is injured.

1 hour ago, Weckerz said:

One of the most underrated  players of the last decade; he'd lift this club to another level instantly (if he stays fit)

Nahh cant see it, our youth along with quality additions will lift us up,not Bale imo.

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60 mio Euro for Bale? That would be a bargain because he has at least two more years as a top footballer. He only needs to stay injury free and if he manages to do that, he will score at least 20+ goals for us

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

Bale turns 31 next year and given his injury record, can he survive the physicality of the Premier League? How long does he have left at the top level? Moreover, we all know the club's stance on players over 30 years old (Bale's poor injury record is going to count against him here) and with him earning something like 300k p/w at Madrid, there's no way we will pursue him. It's best for the club to pursue younger players than one who's gonna be over the hill very soon.

If he could handle the physical side of the PL now? I think that is a bit of ridiculous comment to make in all honesty, the guy has probably been stronger physically in terms of his build than he was in his last year or two at Spuds since going to Madrid. Yes he has had his fair share of injuries in the past 2 and a half seasons yes but couldn't handle the physical side of the PL? Cmon. The guys British, played in the PL for however many years.... he could definitely do it again in the PL. No question. Yes hes older but hes definitely gotten better at Madrid as well as developed a huge winning mentality and massive game experience such as CL finals, cup finals etc. If he got over the few wee niggling muscular injuries he seems to get, he would be able to do it with ease as well because theres no way he would come here to be dicked about playing 2 or 3 games in a row at Madrid then being benched/dropped from the squad every 3rd week. He's not coming from u16s football, hes coming from Real Madrid so I don't see why physicality would be an issue at all considering Real played teams like Atletico, Valencia, various other European teams in the CL who can be very physical and get stuck in and have done over the period of his time there. Wages and his age is the only stumbling block for me. Plus would he actually come here? And yes how many years would we get from him, I definitely agree as its hard to tell with many players once they hit that age of 30, 31. I think if he was 28 or 29, we would be interested because there is a guarantee of at least another 2 years on top of say another 2 years of him performing at a higher consistent level before slowing down, although again its not always so easy to judge when somebody is finished or not, especially when you consider the way Bale, like Ronaldo is extremely dedicated to ensuring he keeps in the best physical condition possible (maybe overtraining hasn't helped him and thats where he picks up these wee injuries from here and there). I think a return to Spuds is probably his best or most sensible bet, it pains me to say it but it would be a perfect fit I think, he'd give them that impetus and big game experience/mentality that they clearly lack and they'd be able to afford him a platform to go out and play on. Wages would fuck them with that too but I just don't see us going for a 30 year old for 60m euros or whatever, although if he was to take a wage drop, say 100k or close to that and Madrid would lower there price I wouldnt be surprised at all if we did maybe throw our hat in the ring especially considering the uncertainties with Willian and his contract situation. An experienced player out and one who is a lot better in.... also fully firing we dont have a player who is on the same level as him at all.

Its incredible how the Madrid fans and even Zidane has treated him. Bale has over 100 goals and has won more trophies at Real as a player than Zidane did. It doesn't make him better but you could argue Real Madrid winning 4 CLs in a row is up there with them winning the 5 CLs or whatever it was called at the time all those years ago in the 50s, as one of the best periods in the clubs history and he was undoubtedly a key part of those wins. Still think hes achieved more at Real than Eden ever will as well. Eden has maybe gone at the wrong time but again, his choice wasn't it? I think when Bale goes from Real eventually they will miss him in some capacity, not as badly as Ronaldo but again Bales goals per season at Madrid are pretty good, 22, 17, 19, 9 (only played 29 games), 21 and 14 (again in and out under Zidane after he returned). Assists I am not sure on but hes bound to be double figures for them most seasons too. Your looking at someone who contributes a minimum of 30-35 goals a season when played regularly. 

22 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

I wouldnt pay a dime for him. A swap with Willy just maybe. EPL is tough and he is way too injury prone.......plus the wages etc. Let him go to spurs, they will do a nice wankathon everytime he touches the ball and 2 weeks later he is injured.

Nahh cant see it, our youth along with quality additions will lift us up,not Bale imo.

I think we would get laughed out of whatever meeting if we even proposed such a thing. We would have to pay Real Madrid to take Willian. 

43 minutes ago, !Hazard! said:

I don't think he will ever find peace in Madrid. Over there he will always be compared to CR7 which is just unfair.

On the other hand, here he would be compared to Willian and Pedro

Exactly. As I said I think if this situation was 2 years ago and he was 28 or 29, I have no doubt we would go for him. Hes the sort of player who you know can get you goals, assists, decide games on his own but the conditions to get him here in terms of a transfer would be incredibly difficult.

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