Stamford Bridge Thread

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Buck and/or Gourlay must resign now..

[warnie_666 1,081]

1. Yeah because it could in North London. Just because it doesn't matter to you in India it does matter to the ones that do go to the stadium.

2. Haha. Chelsea have the right to use morally wrong, underhand tactics because we want more information before we sell something WE OWN. People PAID for shares in that company. That's how business works and Roman knows that better than anyone. That comment is absolutely laughable.

3. Do you 100% trust any other people you don't know? Oh dear.

1. Well they did say they want to move to a stadium within 3 miles and have looked at sites. After 2020 if the fans continue being stubborn the sites in west London will e gone and that's when they could move to north London. So blame urself if they move to north london after 2020.

And it doesn't matter if I'm in india, us or Africa. Every Chelsea fan wants the club to stay in west London preferably on a 3 mile radius but the stubborn fans are making it difficult.

2. What's laughable? I think u and me both agree that Chelsea can use morally wrong tactics. You want more information is fair. But there are some stubborn fans who have put their foot down and wouldnt mid seeing Chelsea as a mid table club.

3. I would trust an owner who has been the best in the business. I would trust an owner who has paid 800mfrom his own pocket and wrote off the debts from the club. You don't invest that big an amount if you aren't in it for long term.

And buck did try to listen to fans. Every option to SSS seats to the current stadium was looked at. He mentioned that tickets prices will go down in new stadium, he also said e will listen to the fans suggestion to have a single tier stad behind the goal.

But you paranoid bunch of fans don't trust him so no point saying buck didn't listen to fans.

So club wasnt on the verge of bankruptcy when roman bought it?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Chelsea FC can still move from stamford bridge right?

[Fabriccfc 21]

Chelsea FC can still move from stamford bridge right?

Yes, of course.

[Fabriccfc 21]

1. Well they did say they want to move to a stadium within 3 miles and have looked at sites.

3 miles can be North London! Easily. 3 miles can be outside of London.

After 2020 if the fans continue being stubborn the sites in west London will e gone

It won't go on that long. I bet it will be sorted before the end of year.

And it doesn't matter if I'm in india, us or Africa. Every Chelsea fan wants the club to stay in west London preferably on a 3 mile radius but the stubborn fans are making it difficult.

Fair enough if you do. I don't think you've understood where 3 miles can take us though. 3 miles is too far.

2. What's laughable? I think u and me both agree that Chelsea can use morally wrong tactics

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They can, but you think that's right? Also they can't use all the morally wrong tactics they like or it will look bad and damage the clubs reputation.

You want more information is fair. But there are some stubborn fans who have put their foot down and wouldnt mid seeing Chelsea as a mid table club

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Very few honestly, Don't just believe what you read on the forums. Most of the shareholders are reasonable long term fans and adults. The no at any cost posters are usually kids.

I'd say 90% of the NO voters just want more information and a say and the new stadium design and location. Regardless of the CPO, I think any clubs fans should get a say in what a new stadium would be like. It's usually a once in a century thing to move stadium. No fans wants to run the club, but we deserve an opinion on something like a new stadium.

3. I would trust an owner who has been the best in the business. I would trust an owner who has paid 800mfrom his own pocket and wrote off the debts from the club. You don't invest that big an amount if you aren't in it for long term.

I think the majority are very grateful to Roman and we trust him a lot. Me personally I trust him a lot, but 100%. No. I think that's foolish.

And buck did try to listen to fans. Every option to SSS seats to the current stadium was looked at. He mentioned that tickets prices will go down in new stadium,

Where? I'm sure he didn't.

he also said e will listen to the fans suggestion to have a single tier stad behind the goal.

Again I'm 99% sure he didn't, and that's the point these are the things we want to negotiate.

But you paranoid bunch of fans don't trust him so no point saying buck didn't listen to fans.

Insulting NO voters like that and just thinking the only reason people have voted NO is because they don't trust Roman and they don't want to move from SB, shows me you don't understand the situation.

So club wasnt on the verge of bankruptcy when roman bought it?

No. The club had debts of around 60-80 million pounds. The debt could not have been paid in time if we had continued as we were. However the club had many players on expensive contracts we could have sold and assets like the hotel etc. That could have sold. The club would have slipped out of the top 4 and down the table. However the club would not have folded.

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

Seriously? How much more do you want the man to do for the club?

The club was on the verge of bankruptcy roman comes in and saves it from going bust. And turns it into one of europes elite clubs. He spends 800m on transfers and cobham and now some fans have the gall to tell him that if you want a new stadium build it using your own money since u can afford it?

Ken bates is a leech. Ever since he got his 18m from roman he hasnt stopped takings digs at him and chelsea.

Completely wrong. The club was not on the verge of bankrupty at all. It had qualified for the Champions league -that was one of the factors that made it attractive to the oligarch.

How much more do i want the man to do ? If I had £10 000 000 000 yes, thats ten thousand million pounds, and was a chelsea fan I wouldnt think twice about buying a ground -one that had a full consultation with the real fans. To buy a stadium is less than one of his yachts.

All this no vote has done has made them negotiate .So good.

[We Hate Scouse 10,326]

Well he tried to be nice and transparent. But since somestubborn fans are refusing to move on to a bigger stadium I am sure Chelsea have every right to use under hand tactics to win the votes.

Things will only get dirty from now on. Blame the fans that said NO and not the club.

Roman has done so much for the club and now that he requests a freehold how dare he?

They were about as transparent as a brick wall! They failed to disclose any future plans or applications to the council for expansion as requested by the CPO. They failed to suggest what there plans would be after 2020. They even failed to let a group of fans help with the proposed new stadium.

If the club explained themselves and diminished reports we are looking to move to Twickenham and sell the freehold, that will make Roman pretty much break even, giving him profit if he sold up, then fans would have probably voted yes.

The way the club went about this was disgraceful and disgusting. Bruce Buck is so slimy and, as posted on that link, uses disgusting bullying tactics.

The club should show respect to the CPO if they want respect back. Not try and abolish them.

Things will get very interesting from here...

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Completely wrong. The club was not on the verge of bankrupty at all. It had qualified for the Champions league -that was one of the factors that made it attractive to the oligarch.

How much more do i want the man to do ? If I had £10 000 000 000 yes, thats ten thousand million pounds, and was a chelsea fan I wouldnt think twice about buying a ground -one that had a full consultation with the real fans. To buy a stadium is less than one of his yachts.

All this no vote has done has made them negotiate .So good.

Well the club was difinately in a financial mess. Doesn't matter if we were in champions league. Leeds is a perfect example of what happens to a champions league team that has no money to pay it's debt. Roman bought it and we were saved from going down the Leeds way.

Doesn't matter if he has 10b. He has done more for the club than any owner has ever done for a club. Being too greedy can just fuck Him off.

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

Well the club was difinately in a financial mess. Doesn't matter if we were in champions league. Leeds is a perfect example of what happens to a champions league team that has no money to pay it's debt. Roman bought it and we were saved from going down the Leeds way.

Doesn't matter if he has 10b. He has done more for the club than any owner has ever done for a club. Being too greedy can just fuck Him off.

Having 10bn is greedy in my eyes. Chelsea were on the up, which is why he bought it rather than Spurs.

Yes he might fuck off -but he would then be seen to be childish, throwing his toys out the pram, not listening to the fans that make the club what it is, the fans that go to games and not therefore worthy of being an owner of the club I love, so good riddance.

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Haha. Chelsea have the right to use morally wrong, underhand tactics because we want more information before we sell something WE OWN. People PAID for shares in that company. That's how business works and Roman knows that better than anyone. That comment is absolutely laughable.

The shares yes, but what is with stadium?

Having 10bn is greedy in my eyes. Chelsea were on the up, which is why he bought it rather than Spurs.

Yes he might fuck off -but he would then be seen to be childish, throwing his toys out the pram, not listening to the fans that make the club what it is, the fans that go to games and not therefore worthy of being an owner of the club I love, so good riddance.

Do you have a fobia of wealthy people?

[strong centreback 157]

Well the club was difinately in a financial mess. Doesn't matter if we were in champions league. Leeds is a perfect example of what happens to a champions league team that has no money to pay it's debt. Roman bought it and we were saved from going down the Leeds way.

Doesn't matter if he has 10b. He has done more for the club than any owner has ever done for a club. Being too greedy can just fuck Him off.

And what if in 40 years time in a big new 60k seater stadium in battersea by the thames we got a new owner, say some americans akin to gillet and hicks, who purchase the club on leveraged debt totalling 500m for example but all the time accruing interest, they then start to make abysmal decisions like interfering with team selection and over spending beyond there means, we start losing ground in the league and drop out of the champions league spots (current liverpool pattern) for a few years, a few years without the CL revenue hits the club in the pocket and they cant afford to keep up with debt repayments and so need to sell a few players for money to service the debt which turns into a vicious cycle of selling better players and replacing with lesser quality players, this continues for a couple more years by which time it has taking its toll, we are considered a mid table club now.

The club have a terrible start to the season, morale is at an all time low, the manager gets the chop 12 games in only to be replaced with someone just as unable to get the players to play above their level, and the club "too big to go down" gets relegated by the end of the season, following the drop our revenues flatline even with the parachute payments (if they still exist) the club default on the loans, problem is a championship club with premiership expenditure isnt worth alot of money anymore say circa 100m max with debts of say 550m and a playing squad worth another 100m, leaves a short fall for the banks on their original loan of circa 350m.

Now where can the club raise the 350m needed to starve off the threat of liquidation? same way the mears did in the late 70s, and im sure if the owner whos family had owned the club for 75 years from its inception can sell the ground then a couple of hypothetical yanks up to their eyes in debt would, we would probably get a 10 year lease (minimum) back option in the deal but ultimately would find ourselves right back at the same situation as we were in with calibra/marler estates battle.

Of course if the cpo was transfered onto any new ground in exchange for the bridges freehold said hypothetical situation couldnt happen, this isnt about what happens to the club now and in 10 years time, its also about what happens to it past romans and ours lifetimes.

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Having 10bn is greedy in my eyes. Chelsea were on the up, which is why he bought it rather than Spurs.

Yes he might fuck off -but he would then be seen to be childish, throwing his toys out the pram, not listening to the fans that make the club what it is, the fans that go to games and not therefore worthy of being an owner of the club I love, so good riddance.

when Roman came in we were close to bankruptcy ,,talk of fire sales of our best players ,,Trevor Birch was brought in because he was a Bankruptcy

Lawyer..