Fulham Broadway 17,319 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Imo this is so wrong. You've eloquently won the argument. No need to elaborate. Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 The identity we never had? Because SB isn't located in Chelsea.And it's just a concrete and metal. Without players and games it wouldn't mean that much, memories are important.Imo this is so wrong.The identity that we have as Chelsea football club which have played at Stamford Bridge since we were formed. We were formed because of Stamford Bridge so yes actually it is part of our identity.That 'concrete and metal' which you describe 'which would be nothing without games and players etc.' is the location of those memories that we have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 if the CPO will vote "No" still we can build a new stadium?Sure.Just with a new club name. CPO own the Chelsea FC name. We'll also be fucked over by FFP because Roman's not allowed to pay by his own pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 The identity that we have as Chelsea football club which have played at Stamford Bridge since we were formed. We were formed because of Stamford Bridge so yes actually it is part of our identity.That 'concrete and metal' which you describe 'which would be nothing without games and players etc.' is the location of those memories that we haveMemories will live on regardless of where future games are played. Other clubs with just as great memories of their stadium as Chelsea's have moved on and created new memories. Now I do think that Stamford Bridge is much more than just "concrete and metal", but a stadium isn't the whole club either. I endorse whatever's best for the club's future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middleoftheshed 388 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 The 'protest' is not really about being against a new stadium at all - I think most are open to the idea - it's about the fans losing the last bit of power we have in the club. For me there are too many questions that need answering and hope the shareholders use this opportunity to bring more clarity. I wish the club would stop dictating the fans like we are idiots and have a bit more respect for those who saved the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 The 'protest' is not really about being against a new stadium at all - I think most are open to the idea - it's about the fans losing the last bit of power we have in the club. For me there are too many questions that need answering and hope the shareholders use this opportunity to bring more clarity. I wish the club would stop dictating the fans like we are idiots and have a bit more respect for those who saved the club.I think that's unfair. Roman could've easily asked for those shares in 2003 before he bought the club. The fact is, he's allowed the CPO's existence for the last 8years. Chelsea only want it back now because they want to move, which is understandable.Did the CPO really have much input anyway? Term-X 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Sure.Just with a new club name. CPO own the Chelsea FC name. We'll also be fucked over by FFP because Roman's not allowed to pay by his own pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barzil33 0 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Bruce Buck some ballpark plans contain?He suggested that something? i think 65,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 So 450M~550M cost for a 55,000 to 65,000 seat stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 "and the decision has been made that we're not going to move to another stadium unless we can take the proceeds of a redevelopment of Stamford Bridge towards it."What its means??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barzil33 0 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 so,we dont move to another stadium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 'The profit on the redevelopment of Stamford Bridge would be maybe a third of that amount, and money from other sources such as Mr Abramovich and banks would be needed to move to another location.'I don't know how much money Mr Abramovich has,' he added. 'He has invested £800 million into this club, and no matter how much he has he must notice he has invested £800 million. A figure of £500 million for a new stadium is a lot of money no matter who you are, and the decision has been made that we're not going to move to another stadium unless we can take the proceeds of a redevelopment of Stamford Bridge towards it.'I don't understand- we want to redevelopment SB-then to sell him and use the money+money from RA and maybe banks for the new Stadium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong centreback 157 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 'The profit on the redevelopment of Stamford Bridge would be maybe a third of that amount, and money from other sources such as Mr Abramovich and banks would be needed to move to another location.'I don't know how much money Mr Abramovich has,' he added. 'He has invested £800 million into this club, and no matter how much he has he must notice he has invested £800 million. A figure of £500 million for a new stadium is a lot of money no matter who you are, and the decision has been made that we're not going to move to another stadium unless we can take the proceeds of a redevelopment of Stamford Bridge towards it.'I don't understand- we want to redevelopment SB-then to sell him and use the money+money from RA and maybe banks for the new Stadium?If we move the club wants to sell stamford bridge so that it can be turned either into flats or maybe a office complex, the money from that sale would go towards the cost of the new stadium, if the club cannot sell stamford bridge then they will not move, simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 London need a free places for flats or maybe a office complex.....so....but all this things can happen only if the CPO will Vote "YES"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong centreback 157 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 London need a free places for flats or maybe a office complex.....so....but all this things can happen only if the CPO will Vote "YES"?Give the man a coconut, hes got it LDN Blue, BlueLion., Liquidator and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Give the man a coconut, hes got it :eyebrows:TNX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I don't like the idea of us 'doing an Arsenal' and destroying more than a century of tradition.However I think its better than seeing QPR move in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strong centreback 157 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I don't like the idea of us 'doing an Arsenal' and destroying more than a century of tradition.However I think its better than seeing QPR move in...Woolwich Wanderers have had more home stadiums than liverpool have won european cups, when they moved it was more a case of here we go again, remember they were a south east london team originally.As long as we dont do a 'arsenal' or what the spurts wanted to do by relocating out of their traditional area of london (olympic stadium move) then I wont be too pissed off, bruce buck seems to have been attributed quotes recently saying that we are not interested in moving out of west/south west london, so old oak common and wormwood scrubs seem to be off the table if you believe him, which is great as they are shit holes, battersea power station would be my ideal site out of the actual sites that are a realistic option (earls court seems highly as the redevelopment plans for that site are quite advanced) we could have a stadium right next to the river and make it the best in the country and hopefully the envy of europe.Im not keen on the bbc white city site as its qphahaha country, but a guy on cfcnet said that apparantly that is our first choice when it becomes available and the reason the club are trying to buy out the cpo is because qprs new chairman is sniffing round the site as he also wants a new ground for his club, thus chelsea's stance of wanting to be able to make a quick move if the right site becomes available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I think that's unfair. Roman could've easily asked for those shares in 2003 before he bought the club. The fact is, he's allowed the CPO's existence for the last 8years. Chelsea only want it back now because they want to move, which is understandable.Did the CPO really have much input anyway?Indeed, the protests are cringeworthy to say the least.It's like I said, Sentiment Vs Progression. eldo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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