The English Football Thread

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19 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I know I have said it before, but it really isnt 'unlimited' spending at Shitty

could it be? yes, obviously, they have an ownership group that controls a trillion quid

but their all time biggest transfer is de Bruyne, at only £68m

they spend SMART money

they spent £89m net this summer, brought in two great players, and some lesser ones that they will sell for a good profit LB Angeliño (exercised a buy-back option) and RB Pedro Porro (who is only 19yo and may end up starting for them one day anyway)

all last year they bought one player of any import, Riyad Mahrez, only a total of £21m net spend

two years ago, YES, that was a one monster spend year

but they spent around the same (£205m net)

that PSG spent on ONE player (Neymar) and only a little more than PSG spent on another (Mbappe)  Barca spent £275m on Coutinho and Demebele alone

look at what Shitty got that year (and they sold the last two already for a combined £12m pure profit)

 

the year before, they spent £160m net but again look at what they got and they made a combined £15m off selling just Rulli and Mooy

 

the year before

£126m net spend (and this is their last big truly big year)

but again, look at who they got and the prices paid

Sterling alone would go for more than that £126m, dont even get me started on KdB

for big year net spend comparisons

adjusted for inflation

in 2003-4 we spent £243m net

in 2004-5 £235m net

My man they dont need to spend, they are stacked to the bone man, if anything they need to sell. But I def agree that they spend smartly, thats why having competent folks at the helm is so so crucial, its the difference between also rans and champions. They also dont dare spend atm because of all that ffp issue, pep said wekks ago that they cant afford to spend= they dont have the money which is utter BS, they just dont want to go deeper in shit than they are. I wish our board was half as bright as theirs, maybe come summer we will, cuz we have the means to at least spend 250.

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Just now, Tomo said:

or whether a player's cock is offside getting called back a whole minute after celebration is too much.

play me, I will never have that issue

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Its like the powers want VAR to fail badly, that was some BS we just saw. I know I would be fuming if it was us.

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2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

It was ball to hand, accidental. I'd prefer human error to this, sucks the joy out of the immediate aftermath of a goal, imagine scoring what we think is a CL winning goal only for it to be chalked off a minute later for a ball to hand?

For sure have an extra pair of eyes in the studio to flag up obvious errors IMMEDIATELY so there's no minute celebrations for nothing, but little things like ball to hand or whether a player's cock is offside getting called back a whole minute after celebration is too much.

As much as I agree with you but this is the rule, they won't change it until next season. Yes it suck the joy of celebrating goals. Yes it tend to be too "accurate". 

But it is what it is with VAR. I am just being honest, I am not big fan of VAR. But so far the way it is being implemented in EPL has been quite good. 

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Just now, Atomiswave said:

My man they dont need to spend, they are stacked to the bone man, if anything they need to sell. But I def agree that they spend smartly, thats why having competent folks at the helm is so so crucial, its the difference between also rans and champions. They also dont dare spend atm because of all that ffp issue, pep said wekks ago that they cant afford to spend= they dont have the money which is utter BS, they just dont want to go deeper in shit than they are. I wish our board was half as bright as theirs, maybe come summer we will, cuz we have the means to at least spend 250.

in a perfect world

all they lack (this assumes the injured players all return and play to level) is one more WC CB

Oleksandr Zinchenko has won me over as a class LB and backup to Mendy

and that missing CB is going to fuck them, IF anything does

Pep knew it, it is why they tried (and backed off due to money) de Ligt and then Maguire

 put José Giménez or Marquinhos or Koulibaly on that team, and get their injured players back, and probably not even Barca WITH de Ligt  AND Neymar is better, especially if Barca has Valverde as a manager

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

in a perfect world

all they lack (this assumes the injured players all return and play to level) is one more WC CB

Oleksandr Zinchenko has won me over as a class LB and backup to Mendy

and that missing CB is going to fuck them, IF anything does

Pep knew it, it is why they tried (and backed off due to money) de Ligt and then Maguire

 put José Giménez or Marquinhos or Koulibaly on that team, and get their injured players back, and probably not even Barca WITH de Ligt  AND Neymar is better, especially if Barca has Valverde as a manager

 

 

 

Barca were utter crap last night, Girezmann does not suit them imo, and if they get neymar then he will be a side piece. And valverde will most likely get the sack or resign if they dont improve. I actually see AM as the best of the bunch. RM is getting too old, remove Eden and there is not much pace there.

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If you ask me VAR should and must have been implemented long time ago. I keep seeing this 'sucks out the joy of celebrations' and frankly I don't get it. Let's forget about our rivalry with Spurs. What about their fans? Or any other fans in their position? Your team concedes in the last minute by a hand ball, but it's still allowed. How do they feel in the aftermath of all this? For me it's about the opposition fans as well, not only about those who's team score and it's dissalowed by VAR. 

Sucks the joy out of celebrations or not, it really does not matter, VAR simply took the right decision and did not allow a team to win after a hand ball (the new rule says it is a definite hand ball) and spares us all from an endless talk of how certain teams bribe entire institutions and refs and so on. 

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Just now, Atomiswave said:

Barca were utter crap last night, Girezmann does not suit them imo, and if they get neymar then he will be a side piece. And valverde will most likely get the sack or resign if they dont improve. I actually see AM as the best of the bunch. RM is getting too old, remove Eden and there is not much pace there.

if I had to buy stock based off rising football teams, AM and Shitty is were I would park my money for then next 2, 3 years, AM as long as they can hold onto their players AND Simeone

RM is a mess (do not care if they won 3 1 today, Celta Vigo is close to the worst team in La Liga), Liverpool, if van Dijk and/or Mane go down are not at that level, Juve, well Sarri, CR7 or no CR7, lolol, PSG will soon be Mbappe (and probably not even him I wager) and the muppets

Barca needs to fix themselves, starting with sacking Valverde

 

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Just now, petre.ispirescu said:

If you ask me VAR should and must have been implemented long time ago. I keep seeing this 'sucks out the joy of celebrations' and frankly I don't get it. Let's forget about our rivalry with Spurs. What about their fans? Or any other fans in their position? Your team concedes in the last minute by a hand ball, but it's still allowed. How do they feel in the aftermath of all this? For me it's about the opposition fans as well, not only about those who's team score and it's dissalowed by VAR. 

Sucks the joy out of celebrations or not, it really does not matter, VAR simply took the right decision and did not allow a team to win after a hand ball (the new rule says it is a definite hand ball) and spares us all from and endless talk of how certain teams bribe entire institutions and refs and so on. 

Skipp pulled his arm over

have seen this on replay now 5, 6 times

it was a shit call based off a shit rule

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that first goal for Spuds btw, was ALL on Ederson, horrid positioning

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5 minutes ago, petre.ispirescu said:

If you ask me VAR should and must have been implemented long time ago. I keep seeing this 'sucks out the joy of celebrations' and frankly I don't get it. Let's forget about our rivalry with Spurs. What about their fans? Or any other fans in their position? Your team concedes in the last minute by a hand ball, but it's still allowed. How do they feel in the aftermath of all this? For me it's about the opposition fans as well, not only about those who's team score and it's dissalowed by VAR. 

Sucks the joy out of celebrations or not, it really does not matter, VAR simply took the right decision and did not allow a team to win after a hand ball (the new rule says it is a definite hand ball) and spares us all from an endless talk of how certain teams bribe entire institutions and refs and so on. 

Its not about bribing entire institutions, its about selling a product and make it competetive. Its inhouse. But I agree VAR is for the better long term. I wish they had it in Fergie years.

5 minutes ago, Vesper said:

if I had to buy stock based off rising football teams, AM and Shitty is were I would park my money for then next 2, 3 years, AM as long as they can hold onto their players AND Simeone

RM is a mess (do not care if they won 3 1 today, Celta Vigo is close to the worst team in La Liga), Liverpool, if van Dijk and/or Mane go down are not at that level, Juve, well Sarri, CR7 or no CR7, lolol, PSG will soon be Mbappe (and probably not even him I wager) and the muppets

Barca needs to fix themselves, starting with sacking Valverde

 

Spot on my man.

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2 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

 

Spot on my man.

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Just now, Vesper said:

LOL that was awesome......I know it says your a lady but I could have sworn I read you are a man and that your lady made your account or something, or maybe I had 2 shots too many that day lol. You go kick that ass my lady.

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3 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

LOL that was awesome......I know it says your a lady but I could have sworn I read you are a man and that your lady made your account or something, or maybe I had 2 shots too many that day lol. You go kick that ass my lady.

nope 100% female born of a female and married to a female, lolol

our cat is a boy

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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

nope 100% female born of a female and married to a female, lolol

our cat is a boy

Ahh thats where I made my mistake or rather confusion.......good stuff man.

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7 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Skipp pulled his arm over

have seen this on replay now 5, 6 times

it was a shit call based off a shit rule

Yes but in the end no matter we like the new rule(s) or not, VAR simply corrected what was a definite wrong call (as per the new rule). 

Yes it sucks when your team is at the wrong end of the VAR call, but at the same time you can benefit from it, too, so it's fair and square for me. Ok, if VAR would take ludicrous decisions saying the sun is ice cold well I'd get the rage, but as soon as it only corrects wrong calls, then I don't see any problem with it. 

That night at the Bridge vs Barcelona (Ovrebro), Lamps'goal vs Germany, that Grosso blatant dive vs South Africa, Suarez's shenanigans, all thr Salah dives, Bolton's night at Stoke 6-7 years ago and so many, many others would not have happened no matter some would not have celebrated anymore or not. There is two sides to the football game, those who benefit from wrong calls and get to celebrate and those who don't, if VAR makes it possible to undo the wrongdoings then it's simply the best choice. 

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Just now, Atomiswave said:

Ahh thats where I made my mistake or rather confusion.......good stuff man.

one time my wife posted something whilst I was in the bathroom I think, and it caused a tonne of confusion, that was like a year ago and I banned her from my account, roflmaoooo

or I just mentioned my wife, and so people assumed I was straight and a male, that still happens, maybe they need to put up a lesbian option in the profile, and a gay male one too

 

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Your too much Vesper lol......keep up the good work man