Wayne Rooney

[Kojo 4,676]

I know what the saying means in your other post, I just don't get the context.

It's the great australian celebrity Keith Lemon

Oh and Stingray gave me some weed

[Spike 12,049]

It's the great australian celebrity Keith Lemon

Oh and Stingray gave me some weed

That was awful. Cringe worthy. This is the type of stuff we make fun of you Poms for. For starters it's almost impossible to actually buy Fosters in Australia. We stereotype ourselves better in our comedy shows...

[Kojo 4,676]

That was awful. Cringe worthy. This is the type of stuff we make fun of you Poms for. For starters it's almost impossible to actually buy Fosters in Australia. We stereotype ourselves better in our comedy shows...

Oh come on man, Keith Lemon is a legend! Celebrity Juice is just the comedy the world is missing, the comedy which has no standards.

FFS how the fuck do you quote in the pub?

But anyway just for the sake of not going completely off topic, I expect this Wayne Rooney saga to blow over anyway, he's obviously just angry at the fact Sir Alex is leaving. He never had a great attitude, but he will probably make the big U-turn he did last time, like someone said I think it was Fulham Broadway, he said he will probably get a new contract.

[Special Juan 28,136]

Wondering how you felt when Hazard was playing mindtricks for few months last summer...

Didn't bother me, he either came or he didn't.

[teignman 441]

No way on this transfer. He's an injury-riddled, rapidly declining primadonna who has logged more senior minutes at age 27 than many players in their 30s. Sound familiar?

[The only place to be 11,313]

Wayne Rooney probably the most overrated player in history.

Maybe in his early days. I'm starting to think he's massively underrated having read some of the comments on here lately.

Horrible attitude, lethargic player, goes through really bad patches and isn't the goal scorer he once was.

I don't think there's been an England player in the last decade who works his arse of as much as him. He tracks back more than any striker I can think of.

Also, he's accepted reduced roles on at least TWO occasions to make the team better which doesn't suggest to me that he's got a 'horrible' attitude. I can think of one or two players who are considered saints who haven't exactly done the same.

By the way, 12 HOURS AND 31 MINUTES. That's how long Robin Van Persie went without a goal at on point this season. Of course Rooney isn't the goal scorer he 'once was' (by that I'm assuming you mean less than 12 months ago) because he's playing in a deeper role where he scores a goal roughly every other game. That ratio is up there with players who are up-front every week.

and Rooney isn't exactly scoring about 6 headers per season now is he?

Actually that's almost exactly how many headers he scored when he was playing a more advanced role in 2010. It was an area of his game he actually worked on and dramatically improved (bad attitude?).

Look, there are plenty of things to dislike about Rooney and there are legitimate concerns about his fitness which makes me wonder why some people have to focus on his looks or make up stuff about him. There's this whole myth that's grown around him over the last few years that simply doesn't reflect the truth.

Calling him overrated is like calling Drogba overrated.

[Hutcho 8,443]

The expectations of him from england press, fans etc were like; this guy is future balon dor winner, he will lead england to world cup glory and such shit. Realy high expectations. Rooney had big potential but expectations were too high. He still did a massive career. He is superb player and personaly I dont like him like i like Lamps or drogba, but Rooney is fantastic player.

United fans dislike his loyalty and their expectations were sky high which ended in some dissapointment but still most of them think he is still their most creative current player. He leads their team they say. Rvp scores goals, but Rooney dictates their game.

Yes he is fat and ugly but he is still best english player of past decade and I dont know about you guys but for fuck sake I dont want chelsea without a single good english player in next few years. Rooney is getting in mature, prime years he has experience and could be our pitch leader once he gets settled and well with fans etc.

Rooney is not the greatest English player of the last 10 years. I can't see rooney ever being a real leader especially after coming from United. The Chelsea fans would accept him, and get behind him no doubt. But he would never get close to the admiration that JT, Lampard, mata and hazard will get.

[Kojo 4,676]

Maybe in his early days. I'm starting to think he's massively underrated having read some of the comments on here lately.

I don't think there's been an England player in the last decade who works his arse of as much as him. He tracks back more than any striker I can think of.

Also, he's accepted reduced roles on at least TWO occasions to make the team better which doesn't suggest to me that he's got a 'horrible' attitude. I can think of one or two players who are considered saints who haven't exactly done the same.

By the way, 12 HOURS AND 31 MINUTES. That's how long Robin Van Persie went without a goal at on point this season. Of course Rooney isn't the goal scorer he 'once was' (by that I'm assuming you mean less than 12 months ago) because he's playing in a deeper role where he scores a goal roughly every other game. That ratio is up there with players who are up-front every week.

Actually that's almost exactly how many headers he scored when he was playing a more advanced role in 2010. It was an area of his game he actually worked on and dramatically improved (bad attitude?).

Look, there are plenty of things to dislike about Rooney and there are legitimate concerns about his fitness which makes me wonder why some people have to focus on his looks or make up stuff about him. There's this whole myth that's grown around him over the last few years that simply doesn't reflect the truth.

Calling him overrated is like calling Drogba overrated.

The guy has constantly done horrible stuff like this, swearing on TV, hitting that Wigan player because he tackled him and never even got a ban.

Just because he has work rate doesn't mean he's got a good attitude, he's still a cock and look at him at United now, Fergies gone and to make it worse on the club he's storming off and wanting to leave. Remember his U-Turn 2 years ago? When he made a huge fuss just to get a new contract?

You want him at our club do you?

[The only place to be 11,313]

The guy has constantly done horrible stuff like this, swearing on TV, hitting that Wigan player because he tackled him and never even got a ban.

Just because he has work rate doesn't mean he's got a good attitude, he's still a cock and look at him at United now, Fergies gone and to make it worse on the club he's storming off and wanting to leave. Remember his U-Turn 2 years ago? When he made a huge fuss just to get a new contract?

You want him at our club do you?

We've had players who have done similar stuff and they've been key to our success. You know enough about our players to know what a weak argument it is you're making.

He's a cock. Plenty of players are cocks. Anytime you want to talk about Rooney the footballer, I'm happy to.

[Kojo 4,676]

We've had players who have done similar stuff and they've been key to our success. You know enough about our players to know what a weak argument it is you're making.

He's a cock. Plenty of players are cocks. Anytime you want to talk about Rooney the footballer, I'm happy to.

What are you talking about? So you want a player who is going to bitch and moan when he wants? Look at Lamps he's probably not getting a new contract, still scores goals and just gets on with it. Rooney on the other hand kicks and screams like a girl, he's also a very overrated footballer.

Look I understand you got this personal vendetta against me that's fine, but if you're going to just give me stupid arguements and then try to pin shit on me, then it's pointless. Anymore of it and I'm going to have to report you because I've had enough of it, I don't like arguing anymore, and I've said why Rooney is an overrated striker in my first post in the thread, but obviously you just want an arguement.

[Phil Driver 503]

Yep lets sign another has been for 30 million on his last legs who is past his best and let a player like Lampard who could play at the top like Giggs for another 5 years go , Rooney would be about as popular as the waiter at the Bridge ,I will be sickened if we have not learned our lesson on players who are on the way downhill after the Schevchenko and Torres mistakes.

[The only place to be 11,313]

What are you talking about? So you want a player who is going to bitch and moan when he wants? Look at Lamps he's probably not getting a new contract, still scores goals and just gets on with it. Rooney on the other hand kicks and screams like a girl, he's also a very overrated footballer.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I simply don't recognise what you're saying as being that closely related to reality. Sorry.

Look I understand you got this personal vendetta against me that's fine,

What? Why on Earth would you think I've got a vendetta against you? I don't think you're capable of saying or doing anything that would require a vendetta, let alone a personal one. :lol2: :lol2:

That has proper given me the giggles.

Anymore of it and I'm going to have to report you because I've had enough of it, I don't like arguing anymore, and I've said why Rooney is an overrated striker in my first post in the thread, but obviously you just want an arguement.

I just want a discussion about football, and people who play football (footballers). I'm not one of the people bringing tabloid shit into this, or those silly myths about his attitude which clearly don't stack when you introduce sticky things like 'evidence' and 'facts' into the equation.

I don't particularly like Wayne Rooney (I hope he doesn't think I've got a personal vendetta against him too ) but as a footballer I think he could offer something special to this team. I've acknowledged there are question marks over his fitness and motivation but that at the right price he could be good for us.

That's called a discussion.

[Kojo 4,676]

We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I simply don't recognise what you're saying as being that closely related to reality. Sorry.

What? Why on Earth would you think I've got a vendetta against you? I don't think you're capable of saying or doing anything that would require a vendetta, let alone a personal one. :lol2: :lol2:

That has proper given me the giggles.

I just want a discussion about football, and people who play football (footballers). I'm not one of the people bringing tabloid shit into this, or those silly myths about his attitude which clearly don't stack when you introduce sticky things like 'evidence' and 'facts' into the equation.

I don't particularly like Wayne Rooney (I hope he doesn't think I've got a personal vendetta against him too ) but as a footballer I think he could offer something special to this team. I've acknowledged there are question marks over his fitness and motivation but that at the right price he could be good for us.

That's called a discussion.

You call my arguement weak yet yours holds nothing either, you go on about how Mikels attitude is bad, off the pitch how he said he can't be arsed about Europa. You constantly went on about it, and Rooney is even worse when it comes to that, yet you still fail to answer me on it, simply because you have no arguement at all.

And Rooney is the best player for england? Sorry but Ashley Cole has been the best and most consistent player for england in the past 10 years without a doubt. Oh and what price do you think they will offer? A nice 5 million deal? This isn't fucking Manchester City we are dealing with, and I wouldn't take Rooney for 20 million as he is very average upfront. Ferguson could get the best out of him, it explains his shitty and average england performances, I would much rather go for Lewandowski/Cavani who are much better.

Funny when a man of the age of 40 likes to laugh at people half his age on the internet, wow you must be living the dream right here.

Also it's like trying to get blood out of a stone to convince me that Rooney is a world class player.

[Strike 7,480]

The guy has constantly done horrible stuff like this, swearing on TV, hitting that Wigan player because he tackled him and never even got a ban.

Just because he has work rate doesn't mean he's got a good attitude, he's still a cock and look at him at United now, Fergies gone and to make it worse on the club he's storming off and wanting to leave. Remember his U-Turn 2 years ago? When he made a huge fuss just to get a new contract?

You want him at our club do you?

This is unfair. He has mellowed in recent years. There was a ridiculously long stretch of games where he didn't even pick up a yellow card or something. This 'attitude' problem is not as big as a few years ago i feel

edit: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/The-new-angel-of-Manchester-United-Former-bad-boy-Wayne-Rooney-has-just-ONE-booking-this-season-article888892.html

[The only place to be 11,313]

Funny when a man of the age of 40 likes to laugh at people half his age on the internet, wow you must be living the dream right here.

You're over a decade out there.

Just stick me on ignore. I'd hate to get vendetta all over you. :tophat: