LDN Blue 7,903 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 This title is so misleading it's astonishing. He simply means, by history, they're a bigger club. I don't think anyone can argue otherwise, Liverpool are a global brand that's been around for years, courtesy of their triumphs in Europe. He's simply trying to cool the bad blood between the Liverpool fans The fact that this is even a topic on here pisses me off...he didn't even say it in a bad way so whats the big deal?Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 God I really hope Reina leaves (on the cheap too).He will join Alonso,Mascherano & Torres in wanting to leave this 'big' club in recent seasons.I think ultimately Torres wasn't loyal to the scousers,but loyal to Rafa and once he left that was the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 God I really hope Reina leaves (on the cheap too).He will join Alonso,Mascherano & Torres in wanting to leave this 'big' club in recent seasons.I think ultimately Torres wasn't loyal to the scousers,but loyal to Rafa and once he left that was the end.Rumour is that Reina has a $20M buyout clause. The timing would be perfect for Fergie wouldn't it unfortunately. Reina, like Torres, was another who spoke out against H&G and wanted more talent. This shouldn't come as a surprise to Liverpool but they'll keep their heads in the stand and be "surprised, shocked, disappointed, how could he" when he leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Rumour is that Reina has a $20M buyout clause. The timing would be perfect for Fergie wouldn't it unfortunately. Reina, like Torres, was another who spoke out against H&G and wanted more talent. This shouldn't come as a surprise to Liverpool but they'll keep their heads in the stand and be "surprised, shocked, disappointed, how could he" when he leaves.Again,i think Reina mainly has loyalty to Rafa,rather than fans that were burning his fellow spanish compatriots shirt. (Reina must have looked on in horror) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Again,i think Reina mainly has loyalty to Rafa,rather than fans that were burning his fellow spanish compatriots shirt. (Reina must have looked on in horror)I think near the end everybody, Torres and Reina, were burnt out by the H&G regime which included Rafa and his battles with H&G.I agree, Reina seeing what fans did and said is probably wondering if they really are the greatest fans. He's now the last one left of the Spanish armada (I don't include Pacheco or Suso who don't play) that included Alonso, Arbeloa, and Torres. Another Spaniard who was behind the scenes and was missed by Reina AND Torres: Xavi Valero who was the keeper coach. Reina credits him with much of his success and so does Torres. Torres stated he told him how different keepers played, their tendencies, and worked with Torres on beating them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 They are a bigger club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 They are a bigger club.Let 'em have the bigger club title. I'm hoping Chelsea fans aren't petty enough to get into an argument regarding the shit they spout anyway,no history etc. It's boring,let them think they're above every other club and their fans are the best.For some reason we're above them in the Deloitte league and you can't be a small club if you're top 6 in the money league. The past 20 years we have the most trophies too. I'll say no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I, too, would love it if Reina left. It would mean Liverpool didn't secure a top 4 finish this season. I don’t think he fancies another EL campaign. Speculation city here: I don’t think it’s a big issue but it is relevant; Reina can’ be impressed by the way the club treated Torres. According to Torres, he was upfront about leaving and agreed to silence so as to not drive up Suarez’s fee. But the club then forced him to put in a transfer request late and basically cornered Torres into the villain role. Sure he can be blamed for wanting to leave but the club threw him out to the baying crowd. That’s not the club Reina and Torres joined and I wouldn’t blame Reina for reconsidering his commitment there. They’re very close and the fact that Reina was on Spanish radio today with Torres demonstrates that Reina can’t have thought his best friend was in the wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson 358 Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 I don't think they are a bigger club. They WHERE a bigger club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 When he joined us he said he was joining one of the biggest clubs, now this? Cheers Torres! Time to forget about them and move on, PLEASE! Anyone get the idea he is 'homesick' or am I just paranoid?He could have quite easily stayed at Liverpool, but he chose to come here! He just has to act his age and just play for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Soapbox Not being from England, I really don’t get the obsession with the big club status. I understand that there are traditionally strong clubs and it’s great to recognize history. To obsess about and to be so touchy about it though smacks of a huge insecurity. It’s like old nobility protecting their status in a society which already has moved onto the modern world. Liverpool fans want everyone else to bow and scrape to them because they were once the privileged. Everyone else is lives in the 21st century and asks, “why should I defer to you? I’ve achieved things rather than reading about or remembering them.” I support a team in basketball that dominated 30-40 years ago. So I can commiserate with Liverpool fans. But after awhile, it’s no good to keep on and on about winning 10 championships in 12 years 4 decades ago. I’m proud of my team’s history but I don’t go around telling everyone we’ve got more championships than you, so therefore your recent achievements mean less. It’s really small time behavior. The Yankees don’t do it. When they don’t win, they reload. The same with the Lakers. That’s why they’ve been so consistently successful. They celebrate being great, they don’t have time or the need to remind people how great they were in the distant past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Every Liverpool fan bangs on about there history. Most of them are living in the past. Chelsea don't have the best history but i've supported the club ever since i was little, and i've watched them get better and better, well this maybe a bad season, but afterall this is Chelsea, we all know it won't be like this forever. Torres is only just saying the truth, but i don't see how that's against us. Liverpool have already made history, but at the moment we are making history. Liverpool just ain't got nothing to brag about at the moment, so what do you expect them to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampards Bitch 21 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Should of just shut his mouth and concentrated on training. I know its all taken out of context but we dont need this media attention when we are not in a great position at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Should of just shut his mouth and concentrated on training. I know its all taken out of context but we dont need this media attention when we are not in a great position at the momentMaybe but he's in Spain right now and they're having a field day with him. Keep in mind in Spain, LFC because of the Spanish armada was a club that the Spanish media followed closely. Torres leaving LFC was a big deal to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Should of just shut his mouth and concentrated on training. I know its all taken out of context but we dont need this media attention when we are not in a great position at the momentMedia are Media, there job is to destroy what is known. Even though everyone knows how full of shit the Media is, still never stops people getting mistaken for stuff they havent done and words what have been twisted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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