Strike 7,489 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Josh is and was good enough to get into that Swansea midfield over the likes of Britton, Allen and the other guy I always forget. Rodgers is just an idiot that was too afraid to put him in the first time for the sake of 'consistency'. All the blame for McEachran's failure at Swansea is Rodger's.At Middlesborough he earned brilliant reviews while being played as a CM; which you know is his natural position. But Mowbray had a spark of a brilliant idea and moved Josh out wide to the left. He doesn't have the pace nor the physicality to play as a winger. Why did Mowbray do this?At the end of the day though, Josh has to accept that he could have maybe done more to get into the first teams at all his clubs.Incidentally, his run at CM coincides with Boro's only purple patch of the season - before Christmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Even the BBC cant dress up that horror show which transpired yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Even the BBC cant dress up that horror show which transpired yesterday.What happened exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 6, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted June 6, 2013 Timid. Passive.Afraid? Scared?These are the words I think of when I see Josh play nowadays. People comment on his size but whatever his frame might be, he makes himself look half as small. I'm not going to get into the blame game regarding his career, but I'm terrified about his future because of his seeming mental fragility. If you look at players like Wilshere then there's a tenaciousness to their football. It's one thing to have the talent (which Josh has in abundance) but it's another thing to decide to use it and impose yourself on the game.I can't recall ever seeing him really fight, really grab a game by the scruff of the neck and drag his team forward. In terms of loan, I have no idea where we could send him because the team has to really be built around him not just going forward but also in defence. You need players who can cover his deficiencies in workrate and tackling which means a three man midfield is a must (in my opinion). I've said it before but I think that he might be better off staying here and being used off the bench and in league cup games mainly for the influence of Jose. It's tough to expect another team to build around him when he's only there for a year.But it's worrying to think that he's been leapfrogged by Nat who is two years younger than him. Even Ake has caught up with him and if he's not careful then Loftus-Cheek may also be ahead of him in the pecking order for that midfield two before the season is up. Starting to think that this season could be a make-or-break season for him. GermanBlue, Madmax, LDN Blue and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 What happened exactly?He came off the bench, yet looked like he didnt want to. The class of the Italian midfield had him looking scared from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 I have had a think about what to do with him this season and i think what he needs is to stay here, regardless of the game time he gets, his confidence looks shot to pieces at the moment, there's no one better to get that back for him than Jose Mourinho.I read an article on Lenny Pidgely, who said despite being the 3rd choice keeper was included and made to feel part of the team as much as anyone. Im personally not giving up on Josh just yet because he has so much natural talent just needs a fair bit of fine tuning. I feel he can benefit from being part of the squad next year and getting 15-20 games under Jose, i really do. LDN Blue and Duppy Conqueror 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asand 7 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 I have had a think about what to do with him this season and i think what he needs is to stay here, regardless of the game time he gets, his confidence looks shot to pieces at the moment, there's no one better to get that back for him than Jose Mourinho.I read an article on Lenny Pidgely, who said despite being the 3rd choice keeper was included and made to feel part of the team as much as anyone. Im personally not giving up on Josh just yet because he has so much natural talent just needs a fair bit of fine tuning. I feel he can benefit from being part of the squad next year and getting 15-20 games under Jose, i really do. I completely agree. He needs to train with better players and he definetely needs to bulk up a bit. And it's better if he does that here where the staff actually cares about his future. If he gets 10-15 games thats just a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 We're much more likely to use a 4-3-3 sometimes under Mourinho, especially against cup teams, which is exactly when McEachran should play. Say we're going up against Wigan or someone. A midfield 3 of De Rossi (hopefully) - McEachran - Ramires; could be domination. Ramires would easily cover for any mistakes McEachran makes while he also has the confidence of having a wall with legs behind him ready to fuck up anyone who dares bumps into him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Will be interesting to see if hes given another chance to "right the ship" today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Start 22 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I really want Josh to go on pre-season with us for sure, hope Jose can give him a kick and give him that confidence he has drastically lost.I agree with The only place to be above about him having the talent, he just needs to show it. And who better to show infront of than Jose Mourinho and the players that can improve him drastically, I'm sure if given the full pre-season, play in the majority of the games, him being with Mata, Hazard and Oscar will benefit his game a lot. No doubt in my mind that if he puts his head together there's a place for him at Chelsea. Hannah and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Starting alongside Chalobah and Shelvey in a midfield-3 for England's U21's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Start 22 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Starting alongside Chalobah and Shelvey in a midfield-3 for England's U21's.I'll be keeping a close on on Josh and Nath in today's game, hoping Josh has a top game, since he's failed to perform in the tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Hopefully the lads produce this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I always support youngsters but Josh isn't gonna make it at ChelseaAt best, he'll end up as a squad player like Bertrand..making the odd appearance when others are injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Start 22 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Hopefully the lads produce this time around.Nath has probs been England's best midfielder in this tournament tbh, just the team as a whole has been shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Hopefully the lads produce this time around.Dont worry, our NT is even worse than yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Complete passenger. Afraid to take control of the game.Shying away from the ball and not demanding it.Pearce was definitely right in not starting him.doesnt have the proper mentality to play at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I'll be keeping a close on on Josh and Nath in today's game, hoping Josh has a top game, since he's failed to perform in the tournament.He literally played 10 mins before today! Been good so far. Definitely the best of the 3 central midfielders. But I have to say, how in the Pearce managed to make this side look so shit?! Completely lacking coherence especially in attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Like many on here have said, until his mentality changes at least, he'll never make it here.I still see a little boy out on the pitch, both physically and mentally. Even if you took Mata as the opposing example. Weak physically, but I think he's really stepped up mentally, especially this season. He's getting more of a winner's mentality and, as nice as he is, I don't think he's afraid to get in someone's face if it came down to it.(speaking in general, not about u21) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 He is playing well. I don't know what game you guys are watching, or whether yo are expecting a Zidane level performance. England are doing really well in the center largely due to Chalobah and Mceachran. This is the lineup Pierce should have gone with in the first two games but he preferred donkey football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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