Spike 12,049 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I feel so great right now, it's like I could explode! Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 To all English-speaking users out here:Which sentence is correct:"Dear student, you should think before you answer."Or:"Dear student, you have to think before you answer."? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Been really busy these last couple of days.But I got some great news last week -- I got accepted into this internship programme at one of the insurance companies here. The internship itself isn't that great but I'm just thankful to be accepted! Summer internships usually have an application deadline of November or December and at that time last year, I wasn't even thinking about what I'd want to be doing/should be doing this summer so I missed all of the deadlines! Hence I was just planning on getting a regular administrative desk job for 4-5 months. But I saw this online ad for current undergrad students to participate in a finance internship so I applied and got it the next day!I start on Thursday! Hoping it goes well! Barbara, CHOULO19 and Ankit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 To all English-speaking users out here:Which sentence is correct:"Dear student, you should think before you answer."Or:"Dear student, you have to think before you answer."?How are you trying to phrase it? Both seem fine to me but I feel like they'd be used in different types of scenarios. Are you trying to be firm/criticize the student? Or are you trying to offer advice? I would use the first statement if you're criticizing and the second statement if you're offering advice. But my English isn't the best! Azpinator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 How are you trying to phrase it? Both seem fine to me but I feel like they'd be used in different types of scenarios. Are you trying to be firm/criticize the student? Or are you trying to offer advice? I would use the first statement if you're criticizing and the second statement if you're offering advice. But my English isn't the best!Well, I had a test earlier today, and one question had that sentence and I had to choose between: should - have to - must - ought toI went with 'should' (I thought it made more sense) but the teacher insisted that it was wrong and the correct answer was 'have to'. I'm pissed because if I had that one "right" I would have had a perfect score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Well, I had a test earlier today, and one question had that sentence and I had to choose between: should - have to - must - ought toI went with 'should' (I thought it made more sense) but the teacher insisted that it was wrong and the correct answer was 'have to'. I'm pissed because if I had that one "right" I would have had a perfect score.Ohh since it was in a test, there must be a specific reason why 'have to' is preferred to 'should'. I'm terrible at those language rules. Hopefully someone else can help lol. In regular 'everyday' type conversation though, both seem right to me! Azpinator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit 3,176 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Well, I had a test earlier today, and one question had that sentence and I had to choose between: should - have to - must - ought toI went with 'should' (I thought it made more sense) but the teacher insisted that it was wrong and the correct answer was 'have to'. I'm pissed because if I had that one "right" I would have had a perfect score.I would have gone with 'should' too but both the sentences make perfect sense. Did you teacher give you an explanation on why your answer was wrong? Azpinator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I would have gone with 'should' too but both the sentences make perfect sense. Did you teacher give you an explanation on why your answer was wrong? Yeah he said that "should" is used when the conversation is between 2 people of the same level (e.g. 2 friends) in case of "mild obligation"/advice/opinion, while 'have to' is used when somebody who's in a higher position than you (e.g. teacher) is talking to you in case of "strong obligation".I didn't buy that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,503 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Well, I had a test earlier today, and one question had that sentence and I had to choose between: should - have to - must - ought toI went with 'should' (I thought it made more sense) but the teacher insisted that it was wrong and the correct answer was 'have to'. I'm pissed because if I had that one "right" I would have had a perfect score.Contact Grammar Police CHOULO19 Azpinator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 To all English-speaking users out here:Which sentence is correct:"Dear student, you should think before you answer."Or:"Dear student, you have to think before you answer."?These are modals: http://www.onestopenglish.com/support/ask-the-experts/grammar-questions/grammar-teaching-the-modals-ought-to-should-must-and-have-to/146365.article francozola and Azpinator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Yeah he said that "should" is used when the conversation is between 2 people of the same level (e.g. 2 friends) in case of "mild obligation"/advice/opinion, while 'have to' is used when somebody who's in a higher position than you (e.g. teacher) is talking to you in case of "strong obligation".I didn't buy that..Should is used when something is highly recommended, regardless of the levelHave to is an obligation.so If I suggest you to take medicine when you have a flu, I would say you should take some Tylenol for exampleHave to is like a condition, or an obligation. Examples:You have to be here at most 7am otherwise you won't enter the class. You have to take care of your health if you won't want to get sickYou have to decide which major to take until August 12th.Because to be honest, your teacher is wrong as far as I can say because someone can't oblige the other to think or make thinking conditional to answer.It's just a highly recommended advice. You are right.If the sentence was about something else like:Student you have to ask for my permission before you go to the bathroom ORStudent you have to be quiet during the exam.Then it makes sense. but thinking before answering doesn't.I think you should be as cynical as I am when you talk to the teacher again and say something like:You have to think before elaborating the questions to the test. Or you just should? Azpinator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Why did backstreet get banned? Was it to do with his posts in the mikel thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Been really busy these last couple of days.But I got some great news last week -- I got accepted into this internship programme at one of the insurance companies here. The internship itself isn't that great but I'm just thankful to be accepted! Summer internships usually have an application deadline of November or December and at that time last year, I wasn't even thinking about what I'd want to be doing/should be doing this summer so I missed all of the deadlines! Hence I was just planning on getting a regular administrative desk job for 4-5 months. But I saw this online ad for current undergrad students to participate in a finance internship so I applied and got it the next day!I start on Thursday! Hoping it goes well!congratulations, Meera *hugs*I hope it works pretty well for you! francozola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit 3,176 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Should is used when something is highly recommended, regardless of the levelHave to is an obligation.so If I suggest you to take medicine when you have a flu, I would say you should take some Tylenol for exampleHave to is like a condition, or an obligation. Examples:You have to be here at most 7am otherwise you won't enter the class. You have to take care of your health if you won't want to get sickYou have to decide which major to take until August 12th.Because to be honest, your teacher is wrong as far as I can say because someone can't oblige the other to think or make thinking conditional to answer.It's just a highly recommended advice. You are right.If the sentence was about something else like:Student you have to ask for my permission before you go to the bathroom ORStudent you have to be quiet during the exam.Then it makes sense. but thinking before answering doesn't.I think you should be as cynical as I am when you talk to the teacher again and say something like:You have to think before elaborating the questions to the test. Or you just should?Finally, a teacher to the rescue! Barbara and Azpinator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit 3,176 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Why did backstreet get banned? Was it to do with his posts in the mikel thread?Backstreet banned? That's harsh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Why did backstreet get banned? Was it to do with his posts in the mikel thread? Backstreet banned? That's harsh! What???? Backstreet? Fuck! Are you serious? The day just got worse. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Why did backstreet get banned? Was it to do with his posts in the mikel thread?What???? Backstreet? Fuck! Are you serious? The day just got worse. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HDBackstreet banned? That's harsh! I would like to point out that Thor had no part in this banning. I don't ban people without organising a fucking big public announcement Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I would like to point out that Thor had no part in this banning. I don't ban people without organising a fucking big public announcement I guess im next ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit 3,176 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I would like to point out that Thor had no part in this banning. I don't ban people without organising a fucking big public announcement And then you say you are not scary! BlueLion. and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit 3,176 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Isn't this the cutest gif ever! I could watch this all day long. BlueLion., Rmpr and yuvala 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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