The Pub - Discuss Anything

[Madmax 9,219]

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Steve McClaren's back at Twente. As noted no Twitter, another loan destination. He did wonders for Rajkovic & Stoch last time.

[dave30 728]

it swings both ways chaps if she was white she WOULD be gone.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16423278

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Agreed. She should be told to step down.

[osgoodisgod 150]

Why I think Pele is the greatest footballer of all time:

• he started playing when he was 15
  
• he played for his country when he was 16
  
• he won his 1st World Cup when he was 17
  
• he is all-time leading scorer of Brazil NT
  
• he won 3 World Cups - he is the only player to do so
  
• he is the youngest player to play in World Cup final and he scored 2 goals in that match
  
• he was Brazilian top league top scorer for 9 seasons straight
  
• he was Brazillian top league top scorer 12 times
  
• he won Golden Ball in 1970
  
• he scored 1280 goals in 1363 games
  

And he did this all by playing mainly as attacking midfielder or second-striker. For me he is the greatest.

He canny do keepy up now though

[osgoodisgod 150]

it swings both ways chaps if she was white she WOULD be gone.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...litics-16423278

I agree. I hate having to explain I'm not a racist because I'm not and that always sounds so defensive however I get seriously narked when there is one law for others. I used to be a cop and there is a black police officers association which is fair enough until, purely for arguments sake, I suggested a white police officers association with exact constitution and I was threatened with disciplinary action for merely suggesting it. It's never going to go away until everyone is treated the same by everyone so Abbot should go - if she can't express herself properly then she should use other mediums - she's a politician and can access any sort of medium that will allow her more than 140 characters. You have to consider the intent, the same as with Hansen - he was ill considered and should be pulled up and ensure it doesn't happen again but she had plenty of time to consider what she was saying and how she was saying it.

[dave30 728]

I agree. I hate having to explain I'm not a racist because I'm not and that always sounds so defensive however I get seriously narked when there is one law for others. I used to be a cop and there is a black police officers association which is fair enough until, purely for arguments sake, I suggested a white police officers association with exact constitution and I was threatened with disciplinary action for merely suggesting it. It's never going to go away until everyone is treated the same by everyone so Abbot should go - if she can't express herself properly then she should use other mediums - she's a politician and can access any sort of medium that will allow her more than 140 characters. You have to consider the intent, the same as with Hansen - he was ill considered and should be pulled up and ensure it doesn't happen again but she had plenty of time to consider what she was saying and how she was saying it.

completely agree mate. It just got to me the way she said we should not play "their game"( divide and conquering ) you can almost feel the animosity. She's just creating unnecessary division .

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I agree. I hate having to explain I'm not a racist because I'm not and that always sounds so defensive however I get seriously narked when there is one law for others. I used to be a cop and there is a black police officers association which is fair enough until, purely for arguments sake, I suggested a white police officers association with exact constitution and I was threatened with disciplinary action for merely suggesting it. It's never going to go away until everyone is treated the same by everyone so Abbot should go - if she can't express herself properly then she should use other mediums - she's a politician and can access any sort of medium that will allow her more than 140 characters. You have to consider the intent, the same as with Hansen - he was ill considered and should be pulled up and ensure it doesn't happen again but she had plenty of time to consider what she was saying and how she was saying it.

To be honest, the Black Police Officer's Association makes sense because of the historical suffering in society and even in the force itself. As the case of Stephen Lawerence has demonstrated. However I completely understand your frustrations at how if white police officers did the same you get threatened in such away, it's not like these groups are hate groups.

It's a very sensitive matter, again because of the historical prejudice of darker-skinned societies. And the political correctness that must be adhered to today is a direct consequence of that past suffering. Abbot is actually a very smart lady, she's stood up to racism, prejudice & suffering her entire life and when she became an MP it was a good sign of the decline in racism. However she has severely disrupted her name with this tweet.

If she had worded it correctly, because she was right about the 19th century colonialism, then it would've been fine. Her context is not racist, but she's portrayed it that way. This is her own fault.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

completely agree mate. It just got to me the way she said we should not play "their game"( divide and conquering ) you can almost feel the animosity. She's just creating unnecessary division .

Yes, she worded it in a very silly way. She should've thought carefully about how her words would've been seen, and especially if the tables had been turned and a white politician had put such hostility into it.

[osgoodisgod 150]

To be honest, the Black Police Officer's Association makes sense because of the historical suffering in society and even in the force itself. As the case of Stephen Lawerence has demonstrated. However I completely understand your frustrations at how if white police officers did the same you get threatened in such away, it's not like these groups are hate groups.

It's a very sensitive matter, again because of the historical prejudice of darker-skinned societies. And the political correctness that must be adhered to today is a direct consequence of that past suffering. Abbot is actually a very smart lady, she's stood up to racism, prejudice & suffering her entire life and when she became an MP it was a good sign of the decline in racism. However she has severely disrupted her name with this tweet.

If she had worded it correctly, because she was right about the 19th century colonialism, then it would've been fine. Her context is not racist, but she's portrayed it that way. This is her own fault.

I agree etirely. I could see the point in the BPOA and didn't have an issue with it at all - just didn'tlike the reaction when for sport I suggested the other. There were very important and necessary changes made after Stephen's murder - the vast majority of instituions were racist then and of course that had to change.

The police, at that time, were very 'ist' and every minority/vulnerable group were on occasion mistreated - women, aliens (as the reference was then), Gypsies and any other non WASP group. It's thankfully changed but I'm ever watchful of and angered by the times when it's gone too far the other way. As I said it's not going to change until everyone treats everyone else equally and fairly.

[King11Didier 916]

Someone watching Rally Dakar?It isn't the same rally since they moved it to South America.Now without big teams like Mitsubishi,VW and BMW is less interesting.Mitsubishi aren't in Dakar since 2009 I think.This year there aren't VW and BMW.My favourite teams are gone.And the interesting rally too.

I don't know people which rally like more.Paris Dakar in Africa or Rally Dakar in South America,but I like the old Paris Dakar more.

[Amblève. 4,995]

I have to write an article containing 20 pages within 3 days!

[Laylabelle 9,351]

I have to write an article containing 20 pages within 3 days!

Good luck!!!

[Amblève. 4,995]

Thank you. I've got just 3 pages so far, gonna be a tough night...

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Something that helps me when writing assignments is turning off my internet connection and phone.... no TalkChelsea, Facebook or Twitter to interfere then!

[Laylabelle 9,351]

Agree!!I used to get so easily distracted when writing assinments..would start and think hmmm this is boring what else is happening in the world! Then would randomly start tiding my room,sorting out random stuff then think shit I havent done anything!! I'd been mega screwed if I'd gone to Uni

[Amblève. 4,995]

Something that helps me when writing assignments is turning off my internet connection and phone.... no TalkChelsea, Facebook or Twitter to interfere then!

Haha, you got a point there but I need the internet as I have to look up a lot of information. Writing an assignment on the history of North Korea and it's not that easy without internet... but I should really try to avoid visiting other websites such as TC

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Something that helps me when writing assignments is turning off my internet connection and phone.... no TalkChelsea, Facebook or Twitter to interfere then!

This definitely helps a lot. It's amazing what can be done when we actually bother to turn off our distractions.. Can work for hours upon end and it'll never cross your mind to check Twitter & co.