Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Lets swap him for any other player, I had Carlo is a big fan, would swap him for Morata or even Casimero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Sounds like a great suggestion to me.Sure it does now. Then he'll give some performances of his life, probably the CL, and then everyone will call for him to stay.Imo, he has a lot to offer. A lot more than most of our other CMs. I don't suggest that he should be a starter, but as a squad player he's a valuable asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 You think it's a myth that Ramires has horrid passing... Do you even watch any of our matches?LOL! I have most likely been watching Chelsea longer then you! and yes it is a myth that Ramires is a horrid passer! he is no where near as bad as what people makes out, i would describe his passing as acceptable, its pretty decent most of the time, like today he had the joint 3rd highest pass percentage with Matic, People act as if he struggles to make even the simplest of passes which is far from the truth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 LOL! I have most likely been watching Chelsea longer then you! and yes it is a myth that Ramires is a horrid passer! he is no where near as bad as what people makes out, i would describe his passing as acceptable, its pretty decent most of the time, like today he had the joint 3rd highest pass percentage with Matic, People act as if he struggles to make even the simplest of passes which is far from the truth!100% agree. Not as bad as is made out, he's not the best or great.. But he's not horrid. But I assure you, you won't win this argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethos1 802 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 LOL! I have most likely been watching Chelsea longer then you! and yes it is a myth that Ramires is a horrid passer! he is no where near as bad as what people makes out, i would describe his passing as acceptable, its pretty decent most of the time, like today he had the joint 3rd highest pass percentage with Matic, People act as if he struggles to make even the simplest of passes which is far from the truth!It depends on what your definition of acceptable is, for me his passing his shit. I expect a CM that plays for a club like Chelsea to be able to make splitting passes, scoring goals and giving assists. All Ramires does os run run run and making fouls, especially this year. Last year he was decent but now he's playing like a moron, if he was still playing like he was last year I'd keep him but now I'd even give him away for free. The Chels and Sidzeret 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 LOL! I have most likely been watching Chelsea longer then you! and yes it is a myth that Ramires is a horrid passer! he is no where near as bad as what people makes out, i would describe his passing as acceptable, its pretty decent most of the time, like today he had the joint 3rd highest pass percentage with Matic, People act as if he struggles to make even the simplest of passes which is far from the truth!His statistics are pretty decent, likely because his passes are usually ones that a 2-year-old could make. In fact he never takes the initiative -- I recall that he was being jeered for passing back to Schwarzer twice from a set-piece after we were looking for a goal, probably doing so in the knowledge that if he looked forward for a pass of any difficulty he'd have lost the ball. And during the game itself Matic, who is supposed to be the more defensive of the pivot players, was essentially forced to go forward and look for a pass because Ramires couldn't. Ask Ramires to make a difficult through ball/long-range pass/a pass of any difficulty for that matter, and he will fail in the vast majority of instances: for a CM in his prime who plays in the starting 11 of one of Europe's biggest clubs that is indeed atrocious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I was deeply disappointed at Ramires today, however, let's not forget that we do not have saints on our squad. As long as Jose is here, ramires will be as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Ramires was a disgrace, last night. His erratic judgements cost the team on several occasions. Too many yellow cards, subsequently being banned, is not my an ideal player for Chelsea. Stamina is fine, but this team needs much more than Ramires running miles on the pitch, I feel. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Reddish-Blue 2,506 Posted April 20, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 20, 2014 He needs to go at the end of the seasonVan Ginkel and/or Chalobah can take his place on the bench The only place to be, The Mak, The Skipper and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 He needs to go at the end of the seasonVan Ginkel and/or Chalobah can take his place on the benchI actually wouldn't mind that. Frees up a spot for another creative midfielder as well. It'd look like Matic, X, MVG, Chalobah. With Luiz out there as an option too. That's very solid. Mourinho loves Ramires too much for that though. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 He's a very good player, but if I'm honest with my self, if he were some player we are linked with, I'd be saying that I don't want a cunt like him any where near our team. Lmao did someone just suggest we should sell him?He's been reckless this season, really damn reckless. There was the disgusting foul at Villa and he's not been back long enough to then receive and impending retrospective ban from the FA. He's still a good player imo and one we definitely need against certain opposition and depending on certain tactics. His pace and stamina are big traits to have in the EPL. So he should definitely remain with the squad, but Mou really needs to have a word about his decision making. It's curious because before this season we hadn't really seen that side of him.I say this because I like you: Run! Run now. Run fast.You cannot go around messing up the rage party! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The only place to be 11,313 Posted April 20, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 20, 2014 LOL! I have most likely been watching Chelsea longer then you! and yes it is a myth that Ramires is a horrid passer! he is no where near as bad as what people makes out, i would describe his passing as acceptable, its pretty decent most of the time, like today he had the joint 3rd highest pass percentage with Matic, People act as if he struggles to make even the simplest of passes which is far from the truth!He's capable of making simple passes but actually look at his passes. Does he put players into better positions? Does he do what Matic does and pass through the lines and get us attacking?Half the time he does that annoying fucking crabbing run, across the pitch and then passes it to someone like Ivanovic. So he actually drags a defender with him and closes off the space. I'd rather have a midfielder who lets the ball do the work rather than a guy whose main attribute is running with the ball. He's a glorified Wilson Palacios and a massive liability despite him being one of the older heads in the squad now. He's possibly the stupidest player I've seen at this club as well and he's become a dirty player too. The challenges on Gotze, the Villa player and Larsson have all (or should have all) seen us down to ten men in crunch situations.He's a massive bottler. bethos1, FabHazard, Sidzeret and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 LOL! I have most likely been watching Chelsea longer then you! and yes it is a myth that Ramires is a horrid passer! he is no where near as bad as what people makes out, i would describe his passing as acceptable, its pretty decent most of the time, like today he had the joint 3rd highest pass percentage with Matic, People act as if he struggles to make even the simplest of passes which is far from the truth!please stop this "he's not that bad in passing nonsense". everyone is a decent passer but ramires has many games where his passing is rubbish. in the home game vs galatasaray his pass % was 68 or 69 ffs. the game where chelsea were in total control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Now Mikel isn't playing Ramires has become the new fall guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Now Mikel isn't playing Ramires has become the new fall guy There are easier villains for yesterday's performance. Azpi could've gotten stick for slipping and giving away the penalty. Oscar got a bit for what was a pretty uninspired performance. Schwarzer probably should've done better for their goal.But Rami should've been sent off for the most stupid, irresponsible lashing out when his teammates needed him. Then throw in the typical workmanlike performance and it's not exactly surprising to see him getting stick. To be fair it's nothing new and he was getting criticism when he was playing alongside Mikel.Anytime a player gets criticism some seem to think that we're looking for a scapegoat. That might be true but no-one thinks that getting rid of Ramires is going to solve all of our problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I'll blame Ramires for making mistakes on the ball and just showing a lack of quality, but I find it hard to blame him for having a dirty side when so many opponents get away with murder against us. The refs are also hugely responsible for making games pan out in ways that almost force players to lose their head. I won't blame Ramires for pushing back. I'd be happy if a few more showed as much fight. The only place to be and LDN Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Every game he seems to disappoint me. Terrible challenges, getting booked consistently or diving. I really liked Ramires before this season but he seems to be doing everything wrong. Plus I dont know where his best position is. If we can sell him for a decent amount then Id take it, cant see anyone paying more than £20m though. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I'll blame Ramires for making mistakes on the ball and just showing a lack of quality, but I find it hard to blame him for having a dirty side when so many opponents get away with murder against us. The refs are also hugely responsible for making games pan out in ways that almost force players to lose their head. I won't blame Ramires for pushing back. I'd be happy if a few more showed as much fight.There's a way to do that though. Needle them, do it subtly if you want to be a cunt. Rake their ankles, elbow them (the Costa special)....there are ways to get at an opponent that don't include blatant stamps and slapping a player five metres away from the ref.It's idiotic. Styles and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esam 60 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I thought he peaked last couple of seasons! apparently he needs work forever!he's a good player who sometimes forgets the basics of football and sports spirit! but when in good form he does a good effort .. did very well with us since he came to SB .. maybe not this season but he's still valuable to us IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I actually wouldn't mind that. Frees up a spot for another creative midfielder as well.It'd look like Matic, X, MVG, Chalobah. With Luiz out there as an option too. That's very solid. Mourinho loves Ramires too much for that though.I am not sure Mourinho still loves Ramirez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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