Azpinator 2,325 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 van Der Wiel is just an expensive, younger version of Bosingwa. Can't defend at all.Next.Van der Wiel can actually cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Van der Wiel can actually cross.No point if you can't defend first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 No point if you can't defend first.But still he's much better than Bosingwa, that's my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 But still he's much better than Bosingwa, that's my point.Hardly an achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Thought this would be a no-brainer now Bosingwa's off, shame we're not being linked with him by any credible sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Thought this would be a no-brainer now Bosingwa's off, shame we're not being linked with him by any credible sources.More gutted that we are not even linked with Azpilicueta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Well am gonna have to watch him at the Euros and see what hes like, I've only heard about him, people say hes decent but then I've heard people say hes a younger Bosingwa, particularly on this forum!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSanti 290 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Abate would be much better choice, but I doubt Milan would sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Abate would be much better choice, but I doubt Milan would sell him.Abate is like a slightly upgraded Bosingwa. Faster, bit better delivery but every bit as prone to lapses in concentration as Bosingwa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 No point if you can't defend first.We have Ivanovic who can defend first, but not the best going forward. Van Der Wiel is the opposite. It is not a bad fit.Azpilicueta is going to be expensive, and would not want to share playing time with Ivanovic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 No point if you can't defend first.This x100. It seems that modern football fans have forgotten that a fullback is first and foremost a DEFENDER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 We have Ivanovic who can defend first, but not the best going forward. Van Der Wiel is the opposite. It is not a bad fit.Err, no. Ivanovic may not be the best going forward but he can still do a good job at it. Need to find a proper full back who are good in both especially defending!Azpilicueta is going to be expensive, and would not want to share playing time with Ivanovic.If you believe rumors in January, Azpilicueta will only cost 12m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSanti 290 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Abate is like a slightly upgraded Bosingwa. Faster, bit better delivery but every bit as prone to lapses in concentration as Bosingwa.I would disagree with you there. From what I seen he is very solid in defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 This x100. It seems that modern football fans have forgotten that a fullback is first and foremost a DEFENDER.But again you can't find a lot of great ones in the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Err, no. Ivanovic may not be the best going forward but he can still do a good job at it. Need to find a proper full back who are good in both especially defending!If you believe rumors in January, Azpilicueta will only cost 12m.Ivanovic is average going forward, i wouldn't say he is good. Van Der Wiel is excellent going forward, and defending is an upgrade over Bosingwa. Also to be noted that VDW is much better with Holland, and seems to play better when surrounded with a better cast.I would say Azpilicueta is more likely going around 20m then 10m.If we are going to spend on a RB, i would go for Lukasz Piszczek. He is a player who has done very well for Dortmund, and saved them a few times with critical goals and assists.This x100. It seems that modern football fans have forgotten that a fullback is first and foremost a DEFENDER.Its not fans, more mangers and the game. Even the most defensive minded managers like Mourinho prefers attacking fullbacks and just rather shield them with a DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 But again you can't find a lot of great ones in the market.True. But surely the champions of Europe can persuade one of them to join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I would disagree with you there. From what I seen he is very solid in defending.Aren't Italians meant to be the best defenders in football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyblue 443 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Really don't rate him, but I like RBs who know how to defend first before attacking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSanti 290 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Aren't Italians meant to be the best defenders in football?They are, but it's kind of cliche, you can't say someone is good defender only because he is Italian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I would disagree with you there. From what I seen he is very solid in defending.I dont rate him highly at all, very good going forward but very suspect defensively which is one of the reasons he has failed to nail down the Italian right back spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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