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[The Skipper 20,609]

Sell Oscar, buy Pjanic. Simple. A midfield of Pjanic - DM - Fabregas would be insane creatively. 

[bellion 170]

6 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

Sell Oscar, buy Pjanic. Simple. A midfield of Pjanic - DM - Fabregas would be insane creatively. 

Nah I think Oscar will hang around just like Mikel for many more seasons. 

I expect them to stay, Hazard to  be sold and a cheapo squad player or two will be bought to fill up the midfield numbers this summer ala Papy/Hector/Miazga. 

We haven't done enough to win the NEGATIVE NET SPEND title yet.  Selling Hazard and signing a Papy equivalent in midfield will certainly go very well into achieving that.

[chelseafan26 293]

On 02/03/2016 at 6:22 PM, Pizy said:

If we get him and a top class B2B what an insane midfield we'd have. Would also hopefully mean we would play 4-3-3 under Conte.

Assuming we keep hold of Hazard:

Hazard------Costa-------Willian

Pjanic------Fabregas------Nainggolan

A midfield that can actually dominate possession and has more than one creative outlet unlike what we have now.

That midfield 3 is a recipe for disaster.

Pjanic - Matic - Cesc

I trust Matic to pull through for next season.

[Fernando 6,585]

10 hours ago, The Skipper said:

Sell Oscar, buy Pjanic. Simple. A midfield of Pjanic - DM - Fabregas would be insane creatively. 

We need squad depth and Oscar is good to have for Carlin and FA cup games. 

[Special Juan 28,123]

5 hours ago, Fernando said:

We need squad depth and Oscar is good to have for Carlin and FA cup games. 

I think it says more about Oscar and where he is at by using his name as a squad player for those competitions. I see all these fancy boot advert and videos he does on Facebook and Instagram and actually cringe because the boot is actually better than him. I think he is massively average and can't think what he offers this side, the side that should have an outstanding number 10 but we actually have a very poor one.

He still has value and we need cash in on him right this summer whilst some teams actually think he's decent.  

[BlueLyon 9,359]

17 hours ago, The Skipper said:

Sell Oscar, buy Pjanic. Simple. A midfield of Pjanic - DM - Fabregas would be insane creatively. 

IMO that is too lighweight. Obviously Oscar is no heavier than Pjanic but you can see even now we get dominated in midfield alot when we deploy Cesc Oscar and Matic/Mikel.

I think we would need a Matuidi type player in team to adjust for specific games where Cesc and Pjanic wouldnt work. 

I still count on Matic to pick up form sooner or later and we could then play Pjanic/Cesc-Matic-Matuidi/some other b2b player.

If Matic decides to permamently play bad, try to bring Krychowiak who I see as only top DM our there that we could sign if Matic gets sold.

But three new players in 3 man midfield bought at same time would probably never work out so lets hope Matic wont fuck around next season and continue 2014 form. Realisticly I dont see Cesc sold or benched either, while Cesc and Pjanic playing together would be a big risk, we should put all efforts on bringing top b2b player and then next season phase Cesc or Matic out of team if they underperform.

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

Why would we hold Oscar as back up when we got the Chinese offering shitload of money for him and when we have someone like Musonda who can play that role? 

[manpe 10,861]

24 minutes ago, Hybrid Angel said:

Why would we hold Oscar as back up when we got the Chinese offering shitload of money for him and when we have someone like Musonda who can play that role? 

Will you personally convince Oscar to join the Chinese league and end his career?

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

16 hours ago, manpe said:

Will you personally convince Oscar to join the Chinese league and end his career?

That was just an example. I would even sell him for 25m and wouldnt care where he goes.

[Mustafa 885]

Oscar and Matic need to be shown the door. I really really want us to progress as a team. Both very unintelligent players who are limited technically and lack creativity. We need players like Miralem, Cesc etc. I dont care if they are lightweight. The greatest footballing team of our generation was ridiculously lightweight but football isn't played with muscle and size. Technique and brains are the two most important things in football. 

If we have Miralem and Cesc, all we need is a B2B midfielder. Lord knows where we are gonna find one (a good one) but we definitely need to move away from just looking to buy players who are big and strong but offer nothing technically.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

57 minutes ago, Mustafa said:

Oscar and Matic need to be shown the door. I really really want us to progress as a team. Both very unintelligent players who are limited technically and lack creativity. We need players like Miralem, Cesc etc. I dont care if they are lightweight. The greatest footballing team of our generation was ridiculously lightweight but football isn't played with muscle and size. Technique and brains are the two most important things in football. 

If we have Miralem and Cesc, all we need is a B2B midfielder. Lord knows where we are gonna find one (a good one) but we definitely need to move away from just looking to buy players who are big and strong but offer nothing technically.

I agree with you, technique and brains over anything. Look at payet and mahrez, all technical and intelligent and they are tearing the league apart. We need that level of quality and intelligence in our team. 

[lucio 5,418]

6 hours ago, Mustafa said:

Oscar and Matic need to be shown the door. I really really want us to progress as a team. Both very unintelligent players who are limited technically and lack creativity. We need players like Miralem, Cesc etc. I dont care if they are lightweight. The greatest footballing team of our generation was ridiculously lightweight but football isn't played with muscle and size. Technique and brains are the two most important things in football. 

If we have Miralem and Cesc, all we need is a B2B midfielder. Lord knows where we are gonna find one (a good one) but we definitely need to move away from just looking to buy players who are big and strong but offer nothing technically.

our 2010 team that broke the goal record, was incredibly big and strong.

I don't think we have a team like that now, we regularly get bullied

[LondonsFinest 692]

People tend to believe that, because Stoke/Palace and etc. have rough footballers, other players who are far less lightweight and rely on time on the ball can't adjust to the PL. Far from it, in my eyes. Looking at Mata, if you have the quality, you'll make it. Imagine we actually bag Pjanic, put him next to Cesc and trust Naingollan behind them. Both Pjanic and Cesc will be able to dominate the middl of the park, because both have the ability to do it. Teams would do well to mark both, but then both defensive midfielders would be occupied with controlling them, leaving space for our wingers to wreak havoc and vice versa. PSG, Barca, Real, Bayern are all prime examples of how you don't need a 2 man DM formation to go all out and dominate the game. Matuidi, Busquets, Casemiro, Vidal. Anchormen with immense workrate. 

 

Best case scenario: we poach Roma for their 2 best players for a rough sum of 55 mil. Pounds and offload Oscar and Matic for, let's say 40 at best. THAT, right there, would be unreal bussiness.

[Alabama 1,992]

3 hours ago, LondonsFinest said:

People tend to believe that, because Stoke/Palace and etc. have rough footballers, other players who are far less lightweight and rely on time on the ball can't adjust to the PL. Far from it, in my eyes. Looking at Mata, if you have the quality, you'll make it. Imagine we actually bag Pjanic, put him next to Cesc and trust Naingollan behind them. Both Pjanic and Cesc will be able to dominate the middl of the park, because both have the ability to do it. Teams would do well to mark both, but then both defensive midfielders would be occupied with controlling them, leaving space for our wingers to wreak havoc and vice versa. PSG, Barca, Real, Bayern are all prime examples of how you don't need a 2 man DM formation to go all out and dominate the game. Matuidi, Busquets, Casemiro, Vidal. Anchormen with immense workrate. 

 

Best case scenario: we poach Roma for their 2 best players for a rough sum of 55 mil. Pounds and offload Oscar and Matic for, let's say 40 at best. THAT, right there, would be unreal bussiness.

How about the case when we face physically imposing opposition....we all know we have several teams in EPL capable of jamming their middle of the pitch with players of such immense abilities...The trio would struggle and it will affect our play unless the potential manager will have another plan to nullify such threat...In addition why d idea of selling Oscar/Matic is now an official language for most members here even when the incoming manager is yet to access the squad and know the crop of players that will fit his plan...at the end of the day some members here will be the gang that will castigate the manager for having a thin squad when in reality the duo can even become terrific player or addition for us next season...

[DYC. 7,542]

Pjanic and Cesc in midfield. What a nightmare. You'd have a heart-attack every time the ball is lost. More holes in your midfield than a piece of cheese from Tom & Jerry. If you're going to play two playmakers/passers in midfield, at least one of them has to be dynamic and/or athletic. Think Modric. Or an aggressor and someone with an genuine defensive nous. Think Verratti. And at least one of them should be capable of holding the ball under (immense) pressure. You can point at Iniesta and Xavi and call them lightweight and soft but they are legendary players. Cesc and Pjanic don't compare. Not to mention the fact they played with Busquets behind them, with a game winner - no, trophy winner - Messi in front of them and most importantly, played in an incredibly dominant system which was almost unfair. There's a reason nobody has been able to emulate them. Ask Real. Ask Bayern even.