Nathaniel Chalobah

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

jesus what a shitstorm of shit the last few posts in this thread have been

[The only place to be 11,313]

jesus what a shitstorm of shit the last few posts in this thread have been

Choulo decided to bring up some old shit, I corrected him. He'll probably crack again and release some more of my personal info.

Fucking joke is that I can't even add him to the ignore list....pain in the arse if you just want to talk to Chelsea supporters and ignore the other flotsam.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

At the time I thought he was a far better option for us. I still think he'd be a better option than Mikel but Rami has stepped up his game.

Not embarrassed by that.

Drink your pint.

EDIT - I've decided that I come here to talk to Chelsea supporters so welcome to the ignore list.

Hope to see your face at the Bridge one day....really looking forward to it.

Bye Nour.

Don't tell me, your imaginary mates at the Bridge think the same, right!

Put me on ignore? Yeah right! You've been trying your best to get on nerves for months...admit it, you ca't live with out me!

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

Choulo decided to bring up some old shit, I corrected him. He'll probably crack again and release some more of my personal info.

Fucking joke is that I can't even add him to the ignore list....pain in the arse if you just want to talk to Chelsea supporters and ignore the other flotsam.

Don't tell me, your imaginary mates at the Bridge think the same, right!

Put me on ignore? Yeah right! You've been trying your best to get on nerves for months...admit it, you ca't live with out me!

yous two need to settle down I think.

[The only place to be 11,313]

yous two need to settle down I think.

He can give it all he wants behind a keyboard.

I've offered him the chance. That usually shuts him up.

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

He can give it all he wants behind a keyboard.

I've offered him the chance. That usually shuts him up.

its both your faults, stop being immature and leave it for fuck sakes.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

yous two need to settle down I think.

Settle down? I'm not even upset. I'm genuinely having a laugh about it!

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

Settle down? I'm not even upset. I'm genuinely having a laugh about it!

yeah but your both provoking each other and this thread will go on and on and on and on before bannage/someone leaves

[ChelseasMessiah 304]

Of course not! He'll obviously be at the 2014 WC with the England squad because he's already better than Mikel and Ramires like you predicted last season

This guy is a joke, I really don't see the point when one's bias demands one to lie to oneself to make one feel better. I'm a Chelsea fan but that doesn't cloud my judgement when it comes to our players and players from other clubs.

I like Chalobah and I think he could make it here, but saying he's comparable or better to/than Pogba is absolutely preposterous.

He never replied to my post when I said that when Pogba left United, he had Juve and many other top clubs lusting for his signature whilst Chalobah had to content himself to another loan to a Championship side, hopelessly arguing that's only because Pogba's older.

The fact that Pogba moved to Juve last year when he was Chalobah's age means nothing to him, as in his head all our youths are a blink away from being Messis and Ronaldos....

[lucio 5,418]

heard from some forest fans that his workrate has been poor which surprises me.

[zolayes 14,489]

heard from some forest fans that his workrate has been poor which surprises me.

omg an on topic post ..thats almost worth a warning

[remains of the day 564]

Pogba has been one of the highest rated prospects in the world from even before he joined utd. Anyone who follows youth football in England "rated him exceptionally high". Regardless of who "rates" who, Jack's ability on the ball at the age of 18 is in a different world than Chalobah and Pogba's physical presence and ability to influence the game was way ahead of Nathanial when he started playing for Juve. And Jack had a season in the PL which is an entire different universe than the championship.

Really interesting how our memory of top athletes and their potential in their younger days, is so selective. If Van Ginkel were suddenly to explode onto the football scene next year and become a top class player, I wonder if you would remember saying that he bad vision and a simple passing range. Chances are you wouldn't. You would probably remember his remarkable composure, strong tackling and outstanding reading of the game.

Anyway, Paul Pogba at Nathaniel's age (18) most definitely hadn't showed more potential or talent. When Pogba was 17/18, he couldn't even get a decent run in the utd reserves while Nate at that age had become an integral player for Watford. Pogba at 18 was just another face in the pool of hyped up young, talented, midfielders with potential. Yeah he was highly rated, but many are at that age. To make him out to seem like he was a rare talent who was just miles ahead of everyone in the reserves is straight up a revisioning. His emergence as a top talent was more a case of Juventus deciding to take a punt on him than it was with him being an exceptional talent.

I get that there's a tendency on this forum to overrate and exaggerate the potential of some of our young players as was the case with Romeu, but let's not use that as some kind of justification to be pessimistic and dismissive towards the idea of giving one or two of our more, young talented youth academy products chances to move up to the first team. Nate has showed enough talent and enough potential to warrant a place in the first team. This whole argument of "oh well Wilshere and Pogba are the exception because they were just really talented" is such a falsity because it operates from this assumption that clubs give chances to young players only when their ridiculously talented which is not true.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Because MVG is pretty much out for the season, him coming back in January could be a welcome boost, especially if we don't sign anyone in January.

[Reddish-Blue 2,495]

Really interesting how our memory of top athletes and their potential in their younger days, is so selective. If Van Ginkel were suddenly to explode onto the football scene next year and become a top class player, I wonder if you would remember saying that he bad vision and a simple passing range. Chances are you wouldn't. You would probably remember his remarkable composure, strong tackling and outstanding reading of the game.

Anyway, Paul Pogba at Nathaniel's age (18) most definitely hadn't showed more potential or talent. When Pogba was 17/18, he couldn't even get a decent run in the utd reserves while Nate at that age had become an integral player for Watford. Pogba at 18 was just another face in the pool of hyped up young, talented, midfielders with potential. Yeah he was highly rated, but many are at that age. To make him out to seem like he was a rare talent who was just miles ahead of everyone in the reserves is straight up a revisioning. His emergence as a top talent was more a case of Juventus deciding to take a punt on him than it was with him being an exceptional talent.

I get that there's a tendency on this forum to overrate and exaggerate the potential of some of our young players as was the case with Romeu, but let's not use that as some kind of justification to be pessimistic and dismissive towards the idea of giving one or two of our more, young talented youth academy products chances to move up to the first team. Nate has showed enough talent and enough potential to warrant a place in the first team. This whole argument of "oh well Wilshere and Pogba are the exception because they were just really talented" is such a falsity because it operates from this assumption that clubs give chances to young players only when their ridiculously talented which is not true.

Romeu's potential was exaggerated because he came from Barcelona's famed academy. After reading multiple Spanish reports on Romeu..it's obvious that Barcelona sold him hoping that he would be able to refine his skill set at Chelsea, then they could buy him back in 2 seasons time and make him a squad player.

As for our own academy, in terms of development and age, I think one of Aké, Chalobah or Loftus-Cheek will make it at Chelsea.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Because MVG is pretty much out for the season, him coming back in January could be a welcome boost, especially if we don't sign anyone in January.

The problem we have in central midfield is not lack of depth, it's lack of elite talent. We have a lot of depth there. Essien can barely get into a game. Chalobah has a lot of talent, but he was a good player in the Championship for one season which is a long, long way from being a Premier League caliber player never mind a regular for a top Premier League side. (Look at Zaha, more experience, older, and a better player last season than Chalobah and he hasn't even gotten into a game in the Premier League for United.) Anyway, Chalobah has actually not been very good with Forest this year. He only has 4 appearances. He has been an unused sub in the last two matches. You think a player who has trouble getting into games with a Championship side is going to play an important role at Chelsea? Yes, we need to do better with our youth, but that's ensuring that the young players who have played well in good leagues (Lukaku, De Bruyne, Sturridge, etc...) get a chance. We haven't/didn't give those players a chance and they earned it. Bringing in Championship players into your side just doesn't work. The gap between the Championship and the Premier League is enormous. The loan system works. Players have to work their way up levels and keep proving themselves. When they've moved up to a level close enough to Chelsea's they deserve to get a chance at Chelsea. (This step is where we have been failing players). Chelsea will never be bringing players from the youth team and from the Championship directly into key roles on the team nor should we be.