Nathaniel Chalobah

[ja1 1,166]

4 minutes ago, quickpassnmove said:

I'm not surprised. I think our manager sees him the same way I do: a player that has very limited affect on matches and mediocre awareness/reaction to pressure and movement.

Hence why Conte offered him a 17m/year new contract for the upcoming season which Chalobah turned down 

[LAM09 7,050]

Another surprising decision. I'm glad in a sense that players aren't just getting loaned out so far that have a slim chance of a future, but I can't imagine what our squad will look like come the start of the season.

Potential outgoings - Zouma, Michy, Remy, Pasalic, Christensen, MVG, Matic, Musonda

Who exactly is going to fill our squad when we aren't exactly in need or going for wholesale changes like City?

[Miguelito 459]

1 hour ago, lucashm said:

Being solid at everything is not enough for a club like Chelsea, and i strongly disagree about his defensive presence and him being better than Matic. He doesnt offer much to our build up play, nor does he offer alot of defensive solidity. Baker and Colkett are probably more raw than him, but they have very evident strenghts, Colkett is a terrific passer of the ball, and so is Baker, who is also extremely two footed and an excelent set piece taker.

RLC has an attitude problem, thats true, but it doesnt help that the managers keep playing him on different positions, he should be a pivot player IMO and if he can sort out his attitude problems, we will have quite a  player on our hands.

All in all, Chalobah doesnt cut it for me, and i am glad he is gone

I understand those views.  Like I said, it might be about the intangibles I see in Chalobah that aren't often evident in players.  

About Colkett and Baker: I agree with all those points, but they aren't enough for me to want them to play.  I don't get the hype around Baker to be honest.  I would never play a player just because they are good at set pieces.  He is two-footed, but that doesn't help that much.  He never imposes himself enough for me.  Colkett, I understand the hype from some a bit more because like you said, he is a tremendous passer, but I don't think he effects play enough.  I don't see him cutting it at the top level.  One of those who can shine when the youth set-up, when there is so much more space, etc.  The gap is seriously so massive to first team, and I don't think he will make the cut.  I would love to be proven wrong about these two though.

Anyways,  I appreciate the decent debate when we disagree about Nat's abilities.  

[Johnnyeye 7,501]

wasnt expecting this at all, but i think maybe there is a buy back clause involved, i dont know, but i wish him all the best in the future, thank you for everything, shame you didnt kick the shit out of Aguero after he tackled Luiz tough, but that push was enough, he will get a lot of playing time at Watford for sure, he needs it. Cheers and goodluck

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

With Matic also looks like will be sold, feels like we will buy another CM?

 

6 hours ago, Thendo said:

Also it feels like we're letting go of homegrown/English players one by one now, too lazy to check the numbers atm but I guess we're good for now? 

I always count we have 18 first team players now (with Chalobah leaving), 17 if Zouma leaving, 3 are HG (Moses, Cahill, Fabregas). We are sort of 5 more HG (filled up the quota with any HG kids from reserves or U18 if needed). Costa and Matic out, mystery man and Bakayoko in, so it won't change anything. Basically we still can sign another 2-3 non-HG players.

Reference : http://thechels.info/wiki/First_team_squad

[Kieran. 6,317]

No buyback clause. Good work once again from our board

[Amblève. 4,995]

1 hour ago, Kieran. said:

No buyback clause. Good work once again from our board

The fee was already so low that a buy-back clause was basically impossible.

[Amblève. 4,995]

Chalobah was part of the last youth generation I actively followed. The last one of us gone.

[the wes 7,212]

Good luck at Watford 

[Special Juan 28,141]

Not surprised one bit, we buy big and sell youngsters, it's dead simple. We will sell Matic and buy again.

[coolhead23 1,147]

State of affairs at Chelsea: 
We are buying a 22 yr old potential for 40 something millions while we sold off another 22 yr potential for 5m. 

... And then we blame our players to remain at the Bridge. 

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

24 minutes ago, coolhead23 said:

 
We are buying a 22 yr old potential for 40 something millions while we sold off another 22 yr potential for 5m.

[coolhead23 1,147]

4 minutes ago, RoyalBlues said:

Well upgrading is if you go and replace a potential with a World class player ... which is understandable, that we want bankable players ...

But how is it upgrading if you are replace future potentials with future potentials. 

That is called Stupidity!!! 

[Special Juan 28,141]

I mean there is another way of looking at this....If he had been playing at Monaco last season we would be paying 40M for him now

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

1 minute ago, Special Juan said:

I mean there is another way of looking at this....If he had been playing at Monaco last season we would be paying 40M for him now

He is English, so it's worth 40m more