Chelsea 1-1 Nottm Forest

[Pizy 18,996]

Can’t help but feel that having a big, powerful #9 like Giroud would’ve won us this game. We need that sort of highly experienced striker for opponents like this.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

I don’t quite get how Cucu ended up booked after he got cynically tripped. Surely not for that Tiny Bodycheck before. 
I do think Tosin and veiga are more than adequate replacements tho 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Just now, Magic Lamps said:

I don’t quite get how Cucu ended up booked after he got cynically tripped. Surely not for that Tiny Bodycheck before. 
I do think Tosin and veiga are more than adequate replacements tho 

Didnt he get in the side ref's face after that?

[Mhsc 1,109]

Just now, Sir Mikel OBE said:

Didnt he get in the side ref's face after that?

Yeah I assume it was for that, pretty standard yellow though, I understand why Cucu was mad but why the fuck he wanted to shout in that guy's face idk

[LAM09 7,073]

3 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Can’t help but feel that having a big, powerful #9 like Giroud would’ve won us this game. We need that sort of highly experienced striker for opponents like this.

As much hate as Broja got at times last season, he could have provided something today like he did against City at home (won the equalising PK).

I just can't get my head around how the board thought having less CF's than even last season was a smart choice.

[Laylabelle 9,553]

10 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Felt like a throwback to the Chelsea from last season or the other shit ones in recent years where we got like 5 point blank chances in that second half and couldn’t score. So incredibly frustrating.

Least it's consistency if nothing else...

Liverpool are the same Liverpool we haven't really done great against league wise for a while so can see how that will go. 

 

[Vesper 30,380]

11 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Can’t help but feel that having a big, powerful #9 like Giroud would’ve won us this game. We need that sort of highly experienced striker for opponents like this.

 

plus this season

4 EPL goals now in 570 minutes

and he scored 2 more goals last season after I posted that in April

18 EPL goals in his last 2300 league minutes

Edited October 6, 2024 by Vesper

[Blue Armour 4,500]

Don't have too much expectations for the Pool game, especially with the suspensions.

Give it a go, but the focus has to be on the Newcastle games following that.

[Pizy 18,996]

I have no real hope for us against Liverpool or Arse in our next handful of matches simply because our defense is so inconsistent. We can look pretty damn solid at times and all over the shop and pathetic at others as we saw today. The Arse & Liverpool attacks could rip our defense to shreds, especially with suspensions and possibly a knock to Colwill.

But if we’re a serious team we need to beat Newcastle and United after the break. 

[NikkiCFC 8,406]

10 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

As much hate as Broja got at times last season, he could have provided something today 

He would not because he is injured for two months now. 

Our starting attackers were slow today if Nkunku started we would won I think. We created enough. 7 saves from their keeper. 

[Vesper 30,380]

30 minutes ago, Thor said:

Hope Forest get relegated. 

[OneMoSalah 8,920]

3 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

As much hate as Broja got at times last season, he could have provided something today like he did against City at home (won the equalising PK).

I just can't get my head around how the board thought having less CF's than even last season was a smart choice.

Because the footballing people at the club haven’t got a clue 👍

Yes its been a problem position that predates the new ownership group coming in (also for other clubs) but moving on CFs in the summer and not signing one is exactly what is wrong with the people making the decisions.

I mean at the beginning of the season, genuinely counting on Joao Felix and Nkunku as 9s is desperate. It only took one moment but Felix showed exactly today why you can’t rely on him to be that ruthless player to decide competitive games where things are more difficult whilst Jackson has shown this alarming inconsistency for 12 months already. Maresca has a hard on for using Nkunku as a 9 also  and not off the front or as a split striker in a pairing where he succeeded in Germany also. Why? Not sure.

 

All in all, we got what we deserved today, could have won it with better finishing but also could have quite easily lost it if we didn’t have some moments of quality GKing from Sanchez (I am as surprised as everybody else).

The timings of the substitution was piss poor by Maresca also. Should have made changes 15 minutes earlier after the goal.

[NikkiCFC 8,406]

7 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Don't have too much expectations for the Pool game, especially with the suspensions.

Give it a go, but the focus has to be on the Newcastle games following that.

They will not sit deep. Just outscore them 3:4. We have great attack as well. Lavia should start and I think we should win MF battle. They have no one there. 

[Vesper 30,380]

7 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

I think we should win MF battle. They have no one there. 

Pool??

or NUFC?

surely you did not mean Pool as they have a powerhouse MF (and thank fuck they did not get Martín Zubimendi)

 

 

[Laylabelle 9,553]

18 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I have no real hope for us against Liverpool or Arse in our next handful of matches simply because our defense is so inconsistent. We can look pretty damn solid at times and all over the shop and pathetic at others as we saw today. The Arse & Liverpool attacks could rip our defense to shreds, especially with suspensions and possibly a knock to Colwill.

But if we’re a serious team we need to beat Newcastle and United after the break. 

Yeahh those games who knows. They're not likely to be our rivals..miss the ole Arsenal days. 

 

[Blue Armour 4,500]

18 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

They will not sit deep. Just outscore them 3:4. We have great attack as well. Lavia should start and I think we should win MF battle. They have no one there. 

Hopefully enough. Defense & Sanchez will have to be on their toes all game. Veiga and Tosin will have to raise their game.

[OneMoSalah 8,920]

30 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

They will not sit deep. Just outscore them 3:4. We have great attack as well. Lavia should start and I think we should win MF battle. They have no one there. 

Will be tough against both Liverpool & Newcastle in MF in all honesty.

Both sides possess players with a good mix of physical and technical attributes. NUFC lined up with a 3 of Joelinton, Guimaraes, Tonali v Everton. Liverpool have got likes of Gravenberch (been standout MF player in PL for me so far), Mac Allister, Szoboszlai… plenty options - has worked so far for them. 

And we all know Enzo likes to vanish when the game gets extremely tight and more physical in there. 

Edited October 6, 2024 by OneMoSalah

[NikkiCFC 8,406]

17 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Pool??

or NUFC?

surely you did not mean Pool as they have a powerhouse MF (and thank fuck they did not get Martín Zubimendi)

 

 

I meant Liverpool it terms no defensive midfielders. Even CMs they have are more offensively oriented. Their two best ones are AMs. No balance. We should win battle there. After all they wanted Caicedo and Lavia. 

[NikkiCFC 8,406]

4 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

 

And we all know Enzo likes to vanish when the game gets extremely tight and more physical in there. 

We should continue 4231 there. Lavia and Caicedo in pivot. And Palmer AM to exploit their lack of defensive midfielders. Drop Enzo. 

[LAM09 7,073]

37 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

He would not because he is injured for two months now. 

Our starting attackers were slow today if Nkunku started we would won I think. We created enough. 7 saves from their keeper. 

I was making a point about having another CF by citing Broja as an example. We gave their GK a chance to make those saves rather than an inspired performance. Felix was unmarked and failed to hit the target.

35 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Because the footballing people at the club haven’t got a clue 👍

Yes its been a problem position that predates the new ownership group coming in (also for other clubs) but moving on CFs in the summer and not signing one is exactly what is wrong with the people making the decisions.

I mean at the beginning of the season, genuinely counting on Joao Felix and Nkunku as 9s is desperate. It only took one moment but Felix showed exactly today why you can’t rely on him to be that ruthless player to decide competitive games where things are more difficult whilst Jackson has shown this alarming inconsistency for 12 months already. Maresca has a hard on for using Nkunku as a 9 also  and not off the front or as a split striker in a pairing where he succeeded in Germany also. Why? Not sure.

 

All in all, we got what we deserved today, could have won it with better finishing but also could have quite easily lost it if we didn’t have some moments of quality GKing from Sanchez (I am as surprised as everybody else).

The timings of the substitution was piss poor by Maresca also. Should have made changes 15 minutes earlier after the goal.

They just aren't learning from their mistakes. As I mentioned in another thread, if our board really decided to throw all their eggs into the Osimhen basket only to play hardball with this handicapped wage structure, they are more stupid than I even thought.

In all fairness, a Jota winner would have summed the squad up. It's hard to strike this up as "one of those days" when we failed to get the better of Palace for similar reasons.