Zoro 151 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Bale has had one good season....just one! And he is hailed as one of the greatest in the world. LOL just LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Mata hasn't got great acceleration.Having great physical aspects is also a talent you know, It's not a cheat in the game, Bale is a monster not only is he fast paced tall and strong, he's an excellent footballer. Did you see any of his crosses and passes he made during some of the games last season? He was taking the piss out of so many defenders. He destroyed Manchester City and Manchester United. Some of his touches are scary also, did you catch the one against Norwich, where he touched the ball past 3 defenders at the same time?Mata is a very good player, but he's not in Bales class, that's why Gareth Bale is going for a huge fee. Yes he's not worth it, but that's what they will have to spend to get him simply because there's not many like him. Also he's got one of the best long shots I've ever seen, I though Ribery and Ronaldo where scary cutting in, Bale is on a complete different level.Bale is not Theo Walcott, his game may rely on pace, but he's got end product and ideas, he can destroy any fullback or any defender.Mata may not be fast, but he does indeed have a great first acceleration. Something every Spaniard seems to have. Hence, why I stated in this day in age, it's very beneficial having athleticism. However, most of Bale's goals have been him running past his opponent to score. Something to be very limited. If you take away that pace, what other criteria would he have then? it's an attribute you work hard to achieve, it it not something impossible. Mata's attributes define something he was born with, natural ability he has worked on to enhance his overall game. Agree to disagree. I've just never been convinced by players who have shown to rely heavily on pace in which was his standout ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Mata played 65 games last season and got 20 goals and 35 assist's leading to 55 points (goals and assists combined).Bale played 44 games and got 26 goals and 8 assist's leading to 34 points.On average Mata gets a goal or assist 1.18 games where-as Bale gets a goal or assist every 1.29 game's, Bale's practically gave up his assist game to be some wannabe Ronaldo, Mata combines the two to almost perfection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Mata played 65 games last season and got 20 goals and 35 assist's leading to 55 points (goals and assists combined).Bale played 44 games and got 26 goals and 8 assist's leading to 34 points.On average Mata gets a goal or assist 1.18 games where-as Bale gets a goal or assist every 1.29 game's, Bale's practically gave up his assist game to be some wannabe Ronaldo, Mata combines the two to almost perfection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,154 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 We will see where Bale disappears to when joins Madrid...at spurs at a very good player in a decent team, at Madrid a very good player in a team of sheer quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 This forum is so biased it's unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,512 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 If Bale fails at Madrid, that would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Why are people comparing Bale to Mata in the first place? You start stupid comparisons obviously it will lead to no conclusions and people just picking fights.Completely different players and it would depend on your team and your playing style to determine who would be the better fit. Both are ridiculously dangerous in their own right.I think Bale would be a beast in a fast paced counter-attacking team, like Jose's Real, he would be an absolute monster. While Mata would be a better option for possession based teams.Combine the two and you get HAZARD HAHAHHAHAHAHA Game.Set.Match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 How should he fail? As long as he does not get injured, he is better than di Maria and would play on the right with Ronaldo on the left. Most deadly wings in the world. Mata may not be fast, but he does indeed have a great first acceleration. Something every Spaniard seems to have. Hence, why I stated in this day in age, it's very beneficial having athleticism. However, most of Bale's goals have been him running past his opponent to score. Something to be very limited. If you take away that pace, what other criteria would he have then? it's an attribute you work hard to achieve, it it not something impossible. Mata's attributes define something he was born with, natural ability he has worked on to enhance his overall game. The opposite is the case, You can't work to have that BAle-esque pace. Sprinting ability is something you are born with cos an individual's stake of fast-twitch muscle fibres is genetically determined. Creativity, vision, passing ability is something you can practise. Pace is not. Btw Mata's acceleration is pathetic. It may look ok because he is so small and always slows down after the first few steps but Mata is probably the worst athlete in our team. Mata played 65 games last season and got 20 goals and 35 assist's leading to 55 points (goals and assists combined).Bale played 44 games and got 26 goals and 8 assist's leading to 34 points.On average Mata gets a goal or assist 1.18 games where-as Bale gets a goal or assist every 1.29 game's, Bale's practically gave up his assist game to be some wannabe Ronaldo, Mata combines the two to almost perfection.Mata's finishing is far from perfection.it's not true Bale "gave up his assist game". Bale had some awesome assists this season. It is just all those games where nothing went right for tottenham he could just take the ball and hammer in the top corner and he did this multiple times. That is something Mata can't do. Bale changes games himself, Mata always needs s.o. to set him up or finish his assist. I know this is a Chelsea forum but Bale is a good deal ahead of Mata in terms of current ability and potential if you really have to compare the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoro 151 Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 How should he fail? As long as he does not get injured, he is better than di Maria and would play on the right with Ronaldo on the left. Most deadly wings in the world. The opposite is the case, You can't work to have that BAle-esque pace. Sprinting ability is something you are born with cos an individual's stake of fast-twitch muscle fibres is genetically determined. Creativity, vision, passing ability is something you can practise. Pace is not. Btw Mata's acceleration is pathetic. It may look ok because he is so small and always slows down after the first few steps but Mata is probably the worst athlete in our team. Mata's finishing is far from perfection.it's not true Bale "gave up his assist game". Bale had some awesome assists this season. It is just all those games where nothing went right for tottenham he could just take the ball and hammer in the top corner and he did this multiple times. That is something Mata can't do. Bale changes games himself, Mata always needs s.o. to set him up or finish his assist. I know this is a Chelsea forum but Bale is a good deal ahead of Mata in terms of current ability and potential if you really have to compare the two. You going to pull Bales dick out of your mouth now or aint you finished yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 You going to pull Bales dick out of your mouth now or aint you finished yet? LOL, wtf is your problem? Not getting any yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 You going to pull Bales dick out of your mouth now or aint you finished yet?Why, you want some yourself, mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 You going to pull Bales dick out of your mouth now or aint you finished yet? Is it forbidden to appreciate players from other teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Is it forbidden to appreciate players from other teams?Keeping an open minded view doesn't deem well with others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Is it forbidden to appreciate players from other teams?Looks like it. Especially anyone who plays for Tottenham or Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john02 0 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 When a good discussion is ruined by someone unlikely. Anyway, we'll be in deep trouble if both of them will play in the same team, so hope it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 It's funny, my mate who supports Tottenham rates Mata as the best player in the league. Tons of opposition fans rate him very highly as well. I'm starting to see this trend where we ourselves are starting to really underrate how good Mata is, which is a shame really. I wouldn't say there's anything wrong with saying he's in the same class as Bale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1611 77 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Mata is the best creative midfielder in the Premier League. Pretty much an irreplaceable asset to have, shame to see our own supporters underrate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drogzola 283 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Well I hope that Bale stays at Spurs and we get to compare the two properly this season. Hazards has now had a season in England to try adapt and I think we will see a much better season from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,575 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Gareth Bale shirts for sale on official Real Madrid websitehttp://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/gareth-bale-shirts-sale-official-2207797 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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