The Next Manager?

[Pizy 18,985]

Just now, Dimitr said:

You are not wrong 

but you say that 34years old Lichtenstein is a good buy? 

Or papastathopoulos? Haha of course not! 

Man city made offers but until now no deals done. 

Also  Fred,dalot don’t scare me. 

 

It's not just about the quality (or perceived lack thereof) of the players our rivals have bought, it's the fact that their managers are getting the exact players they want and are getting them in early. Mourinho has personally asked for two Portuguese speaking players that I'm sure he knows well. Both are very highly rated. These rivals are going to have their new signings getting full preseason's and ready to hit the ground running on opening day.

We don't even have a proper preseason planned do we? That's bonkers! There's still plenty of time to go, but our recent history in the market has shown a pattern that so far looks to be continuing. Fucking around, looking for cheap, cut price deals and missing out on top players.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

Think some of you have slowly realised through no fault of your own is that  Chelsea always has been and always will be a fucking circus. The Premier League finances for 2016-17 have just been published and who despite winning the league are the only top club not to make a profit yes Chelsea.

[Superblue 6,372]

17 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

Think some of you have slowly realised through no fault of your own is that  Chelsea always has been and always will be a fucking circus. The Premier League finances for 2016-17 have just been published and who despite winning the league are the only top club not to make a profit yes Chelsea.

Although we won the league, we didn't play in Europe, not even the Europa League so the accounts would have taken a hammering both in TV money and gate/merchandise revenue.

2017/18 I would expect to look far healthier, whilst 2018/19 will drop again without the Champions League but I don't think will drop as much as that year.

 

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

29 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Although we won the league, we didn't play in Europe, not even the Europa League so the accounts would have taken a hammering both in TV money and gate/merchandise revenue.

2017/18 I would expect to look far healthier, whilst 2018/19 will drop again without the Champions League but I don't think will drop as much as that year.

 

That's all true but we did make it to the cup final as well which would have generated a bit of extra dosh but obviously not on Champions League scale. Anyway here's the link.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/06/premier-league-finances-club-guide-2016-17

[Jype 6,398]

15 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

That's all true but we did make it to the cup final as well which would have generated a bit of extra dosh but obviously not on Champions League scale. Anyway here's the link.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/06/premier-league-finances-club-guide-2016-17

FA Cup is still mickey mouse level when it comes to income for the clubs. Lower league clubs can have a huge pay day in the cup if they make it to later rounds but to PL top6 it's pocket change, when making the final will only net £900K in prize money plus a percentage of ticket revenue. Compare that to tens of millions received from the Champions League participation and I'm sure you see there's a big difference. 

I'd be really, really surprised if the club's financial statement for 17/18 season wasn't in healthy profit. New Nike deal and some smaller sponsorships (ie. the sleeve sponsor) kicked in and the club also got £55M from the CL so there should be no way the club made a loss in the past year. Next year is possible with no CL money again, but we'll see about that later.

Btw that Guardian article is wrong too:

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11188750/chelsea-announce-15-3m-profit-after-player-sales-counterbalance-operating-loss

Accounts for 16/17 were released six months ago and the club posted a profit of £15.3M instead of the loss of £14M as suggested by the article you linked.

[Fulham Broadway 17,352]

3 hours ago, BluesMadLad said:

I disagree this is boring as fuck now.

OK we'll wake you up when something happens

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

11 minutes ago, Jype said:

FA Cup is still mickey mouse level when it comes to income for the clubs. Lower league clubs can have a huge pay day in the cup if they make it to later rounds but to PL top6 it's pocket change, when making the final will only net £900K in prize money plus a percentage of ticket revenue. Compare that to tens of millions received from the Champions League participation and I'm sure you see there's a big difference. 

I'd be really, really surprised if the club's financial statement for 17/18 season wasn't in healthy profit. New Nike deal and some smaller sponsorships (ie. the sleeve sponsor) kicked in and the club also got £55M from the CL so there should be no way the club made a loss in the past year. Next year is possible with no CL money again, but we'll see about that later.

Btw that Guardian article is wrong too:

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11188750/chelsea-announce-15-3m-profit-after-player-sales-counterbalance-operating-loss

Accounts for 16/17 were released six months ago and the club posted a profit of £15.3M instead of the loss of £14M as suggested by the article you linked.

Well it does say in the Guardian link they they are the most recently published reports from Companies House which makes them pretty much gospel. If you look at Palace they are in the shit with the taxman and that story only came to light this week.

[Tomo 21,751]

Can someone explain why Blanc is so so bad? Now don't get me wrong he is far from my first choice but some of the stuff being said about him here is quite frankly pathetic and screams moaning for the sake of it, just by reading comments on here you'd think he's the French Sammy Lee

If we inexplicably cock up Sarri's deal, we could do a lot worse than a serial title winner.

[Jype 6,398]

28 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

Well it does say in the Guardian link they they are the most recently published reports from Companies House which makes them pretty much gospel. If you look at Palace they are in the shit with the taxman and that story only came to light this week.

Yeah, I digged a little deeper:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/12/29/chelsea-reveal-financial-losses-season-spent-champions-league/

Club made the profit of £15.3M but the parent company Fordstam Ltd made a loss of £14.2M which is the figure mentioned by Guardian. Telegraph say the difference is attributed to stadium redevelopment costs, which I would assume wasn't required to be put on the club's books at all because it's not really football related and Abramovich paid those himself instead of using the club's accounts. The money still shows up on Fordstam's accounts as a debt to Abramovich tho.  

Either way, my point still remains that the club's finances are fine at the moment and will show a big improvement for the 17/18 accounts. 

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

2 minutes ago, Jype said:

Yeah, I digged a little deeper:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/12/29/chelsea-reveal-financial-losses-season-spent-champions-league/

Club made the profit of £15.3M but the parent company Fordstam Ltd made a loss of £14.2M which is the figure mentioned by Guardian. Telegraph say the difference is attributed to stadium redevelopment costs, which I would assume wasn't required to be put on the club's books at all because it's not really football related and Abramovich paid those himself instead of using the club's accounts.

Either way, my point still remains that the club's finances are fine at the moment and will show a big improvement for the 17/18 accounts. 

I think fine is being a bit generous it's going to be a rocky few years.

[AK-3001 286]

23 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Can someone explain why Blanc is so so bad? Now don't get me wrong he is far from my first choice but some of the stuff being said about him here is quite frankly pathetic and screams moaning for the sake of it, just by reading comments on here you'd think he's the French Sammy Lee

If we inexplicably cock up Sarri's deal, we could do a lot worse than a serial title winner.

Your post has too much sense. You're not allowed to talk so much sense. 

[Tomo 21,751]

7 minutes ago, AK-3001 said:

Your post has too much sense. You're not allowed to talk so much sense. 

Of course not sorry, ill correct.

We are shit, our rivals are amazing. Hope that saves me from a perma ban.

[Unionjack 7,531]

story so far..............

I got a BSOD about 2am on tuesday AM and it fucked up my windows AND start up software. So ever since Ive been trying to sort it 24/7!!

Ive only had Sky news for any sort of footy yalk and theres not been 1 soddin bit of news or even gossip about us!!!

Guys. You can imagine how Ive been. Its very similar to coming off gear I tell ya!!

So --- could someone PLEASE in a paragraph or 2 give me a rundown on the last 5 or 7 pages and fill me in whats been happening!!!

You can guess i lost 310GB of data - mostly music but all the pictures of my Mrs so thats not helped much.

Cheers

Glad to be home!

[Pizy 18,985]

37 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Can someone explain why Blanc is so so bad? Now don't get me wrong he is far from my first choice but some of the stuff being said about him here is quite frankly pathetic and screams moaning for the sake of it, just by reading comments on here you'd think he's the French Sammy Lee

If we inexplicably cock up Sarri's deal, we could do a lot worse than a serial title winner.

I just can't shake the fact that if he's a quality coach he wouldn't have been out of work for so long. You would think his door would have been beaten down after he let PSG. I don't know. Maybe he just refused everything until a top club came calling.

I also don't remember people being surprised or up in arms when he was sacked which tells me he maxed out his effectiveness.

 

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

38 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Can someone explain why Blanc is so so bad? Now don't get me wrong he is far from my first choice but some of the stuff being said about him here is quite frankly pathetic and screams moaning for the sake of it, just by reading comments on here you'd think he's the French Sammy Lee

If we inexplicably cock up Sarri's deal, we could do a lot worse than a serial title winner.

I'm always a bit bewildered that some posters if we went for a geezer who was managing in Iceland would know who he was and what type of football he plays. I'm prepared to give Blanc a chance because I know nothing about him as a manager as I don't follow any other football apart from Chelsea and England although interest is on the wane with that lot.

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

4 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

story so far..............

I got a BSOD about 2am on tuesday AM and it fucked up my windows AND start up software. So ever since Ive been trying to sort it 24/7!!

Ive only had Sky news for any sort of footy yalk and theres not been 1 soddin bit of news or even gossip about us!!!

Guys. You can imagine how Ive been. Its very similar to coming off gear I tell ya!!

So --- could someone PLEASE in a paragraph or 2 give me a rundown on the last 5 or 7 pages and fill me in whats been happening!!!

You can guess i lost 310GB of data - mostly music but all the pictures of my Mrs so thats not helped much.

Cheers

Glad to be home!

You've got the full story right there. Sky are reporting nothing because there's nothing to report. The last 7 odd pages have been full of panic, nonsensical assumptions and Twitter rumour after twitter rumour. Nothing to see here 

[Unionjack 7,531]

Just now, ulsterchelsea said:

You've got the full story right there. Sky are reporting nothing because there's nothing to report. The last 7 odd pages have been full of panic, nonsensical assumptions and Twitter rumour after twitter rumour. Nothing to see here 

I really dont know which is worse. Not being omline so not being able to check or being online and checking every 5 mins and going on the emotional rollercoastr!

i reckon I'll have a looksee anyways lol

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

4 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

story so far..............

I got a BSOD about 2am on tuesday AM and it fucked up my windows AND start up software. So ever since Ive been trying to sort it 24/7!!

Ive only had Sky news for any sort of footy yalk and theres not been 1 soddin bit of news or even gossip about us!!!

Guys. You can imagine how Ive been. Its very similar to coming off gear I tell ya!!

So --- could someone PLEASE in a paragraph or 2 give me a rundown on the last 5 or 7 pages and fill me in whats been happening!!!

You can guess i lost 310GB of data - mostly music but all the pictures of my Mrs so thats not helped much.

Cheers

Glad to be home!

Just pressed reply and your post is full of red because of spelling mistakes . In a nutshell next manager is going to be Ian Holloway, Roman has joined a kibbutz in Israel, Conte has replaced Griezmann as the new face of head and shoulders and Marina is staying in Russia as she's going to represent them in next year's Eurovision.

[Tomo 21,751]

15 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I just can't shake the fact that if he's a quality coach he wouldn't have been out of work for so long. You would think his door would have been beaten down after he let PSG. I don't know. Maybe he just refused everything until a top club came calling.

I also don't remember people being surprised or up in arms when he was sacked which tells me he maxed out his effectiveness.

 

Which top jobs were really available? We already had Conte, likewise Bayern Carlo and Pep City, Jose to United was already done by all accounts. Aside from Barca, no top club have had an opening since he left Paris, if he left them a year earlier things might have worked different for him.

14 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

I'm always a bit bewildered that some posters if we went for a geezer who was managing in Iceland would know who he was and what type of football he plays. I'm prepared to give Blanc a chance because I know nothing about him as a manager as I don't follow any other football apart from Chelsea and England although interest is on the wane with that lot.

I actually think for the first time in ages things are looking good as far as England are concerned. We are starting to smash it at youth level with players like Mount, CHO, Sancho coming through and as much as Southgate initially underwhelmed me, he is picking on merit and utilizing systems to suit his players, the first manager of such to do so since Robson.

After 2014 i was resigned to never seeing England win anything in my lifetime, and while i still wouldn't hold my breath on it, i see some flicker of hope now.

[Unionjack 7,531]

Just now, Iggy Doonican said:

Just pressed reply and your post is full of red because of spelling mistakes . In a nutshell next manager is going to be Ian Holloway, Roman has joined a kibbutz in Israel, Conte has replaced Griezmann as the new face of head and shoulders and Marina is staying in Russia as she's going to represent them in next year's Eurovision.

Now this makes sense!

and soz Iggy but I really couldn't give a toss about spelling mistakes mate.

1. life is just too short to sit here spellchecking

2. if nobody wants to read it then fuck em!