The Next Manager?

[BlueLyon 9,359]

On 29. 2. 2016 at 11:06 PM, Chelsea4 said:

Conte's training are much harder than Mourinho's and Conte is not similar to Mourinho.Conte picks a system to suit the players he favours rather than the other way round so that doesn't mean he will use a 3-5-2.

Well he did play 3:5:2 and as soon Alegri took over, he restructured team to 4:3:1:2 with same players (bar Evra, but that makes you question, why didnt Conte buy natural LB in three years) and reached CL final.

Probably (hopefuly) Conte wont play 3:5:2 here, but I dont think he suits this team or league. He demands full loyalty and trust and has hard training. We dont have team of warriors and fighters anymore, not sure how current bunch of players would suit Conte, because no one can make for example Cesc a heavy worker,

[Chelsea4 1,521]

31 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Well he did play 3:5:2 and as soon Alegri took over, he restructured team to 4:3:1:2 with same players (bar Evra, but that makes you question, why didnt Conte buy natural LB in three years) and reached CL final.

Probably (hopefuly) Conte wont play 3:5:2 here, but I dont think he suits this team or league. He demands full loyalty and trust and has hard training. We dont have team of warriors and fighters anymore, not sure how current bunch of players would suit Conte, because no one can make for example Cesc a heavy worker,

Allegri has tried this season to change Juventus but he failed so he returned to 3-5-2.The question is why didn't the Juventus board buy because Conte wanted 2 wingers and Juventus was really lucky to get to the final.

Tell me why does Conte not suit this team or league? Why do you think we have no warriors and fighters? Conte will make sure that every single Chelsea player fights to win or they will not play.Conte will also buy players.

[the wes 7,212]

44 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Well he did play 3:5:2 and as soon Alegri took over, he restructured team to 4:3:1:2 with same players (bar Evra, but that makes you question, why didnt Conte buy natural LB in three years) and reached CL final.

Probably (hopefuly) Conte wont play 3:5:2 here, but I dont think he suits this team or league. He demands full loyalty and trust and has hard training. We dont have team of warriors and fighters anymore, not sure how current bunch of players would suit Conte, because no one can make for example Cesc a heavy worker,

if conte does come to chelsea i hope he plays the 4-3-3 formation with fabregas koke Nainggolan has the midfied trio if we cant get koke get pjanic i miss 4-3-3 formation and sell oscar to balance the books  

[BlueLyon 9,359]

2 hours ago, Chelsea4 said:

Allegri has tried this season to change Juventus but he failed so he returned to 3-5-2.The question is why didn't the Juventus board buy because Conte wanted 2 wingers and Juventus was really lucky to get to the final.

Tell me why does Conte not suit this team or league? Why do you think we have no warriors and fighters? Conte will make sure that every single Chelsea player fights to win or they will not play.Conte will also buy players.

Why Conte doesnt suit league? Because his training methods dont suit it. Italian league is one thing, english is other. The competition and rhytm are much more difficult than in italy. He burns players and if our players couldnt cope under Mou, how will they survive under Conte? Conte is known for playing same players and doesnt like to rotate much which could be problem. He didnt even pick Insigne for italy despite he is on fire this season. Hazard would be burnt out soon under Conte. 

And our players warriors? Who? Who is willing to run whole game relentlessly regardless of result and fight for every ball? Willian, Azpi. Who else? Maybe Costa. The rest of the team is too slow or doesnt work hard enough to follow Conte methods and succeed. Not to mention Conte had great defense at juve. His team is oriented on balanced and organized defence. He would have lot of work with buying top defenders and midfielders and then creating a team out of it. He had bunch of italians and passionate players like Vidal at juve, which created special bond and mentality there. It would be alot harder to do that here because few players actualy showed they would 'die' for club. And without such players Conte wont get far.

Not to mention we will be back to square one with defensive tactics once again. I like strong defense, but with balanced play. Im sure if we pick Conte, we will watch more and more bunkers in every bigger game. And with all attacking players that we have, why not go for something more? Hiddink is doing fine job for example, IMO conte is just too defensive. Plus we dont have single italian here. Conte is known to be great mental leader and having so many italians back at juve surely helped create strong bonds and relationships. Never underestimate team players. Here I feel he would be somewhat out of place unless he brings couple of players he worked with before like Pogba, Vidal, Chielini, Verratti etc but good luck with getting any of those.

[Cosmin 2,484]

9 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Why Conte doesnt suit league? Because his training methods dont suit it. Italian league is one thing, english is other. The competition and rhytm are much more difficult than in italy. He burns players and if our players couldnt cope under Mou, how will they survive under Conte? Conte is known for playing same players and doesnt like to rotate much which could be problem. He didnt even pick Insigne for italy despite he is on fire this season. Hazard would be burnt out soon under Conte. 

And our players warriors? Who? Who is willing to run whole game relentlessly regardless of result and fight for every ball? Willian, Azpi. Who else? Maybe Costa. The rest of the team is too slow or doesnt work hard enough to follow Conte methods and succeed. Not to mention Conte had great defense at juve. His team is oriented on balanced and organized defence. He would have lot of work with buying top defenders and midfielders and then creating a team out of it. He had bunch of italians and passionate players like Vidal at juve, which created special bond and mentality there. It would be alot harder to do that here because few players actualy showed they would 'die' for club. And without such players Conte wont get far.

Not to mention we will be back to square one with defensive tactics once again. I like strong defense, but with balanced play. Im sure if we pick Conte, we will watch more and more bunkers in every bigger game. And with all attacking players that we have, why not go for something more? Hiddink is doing fine job for example, IMO conte is just too defensive. Plus we dont have single italian here. Conte is known to be great mental leader and having so many italians back at juve surely helped create strong bonds and relationships. Never underestimate team players. Here I feel he would be somewhat out of place unless he brings couple of players he worked with before like Pogba, Vidal, Chielini, Verratti etc but good luck with getting any of those.

So you're suggesting that the club should appoint a manager that's already working in the Premier League, because "x league is one thing, English is other"? 

Mourinho came from Portugal, Ancelotti came from Italy (!) and they were pretty successful even during their first season here. I think there is a question mark about the adaptability of Conte's methods, but it's not a sure thing that he won't be able to adapt. It's a risk, indeed, but anyone else rumoured to get the job would be a risk. 

About tactics and warriors, we do have warriors: Ivanovic, Azpi, Cahill, Matic, Costa, Willian, the young lads, they are all ready to put their head in the opponents' boot for a guy that knows how to motivate them. And we will buy more players, players that Conte wants. The tactics have to be changed, anyway, because we want to adopt another style. No more bus parking, of course devensive tactics will be back to square one. So what? After what we've been through this season, we can't expect someone to come here and perform miracles over the night. We want to change, so let Conte or whoever else change. 

P.S.: Hazard would be burnt out soon under anyone, if he doesn't wake the hell up for good and start running his heart out for the club. 

 

[marketing media pet 27]

11 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Why Conte doesnt suit league? Because his training methods dont suit it. Italian league is one thing, english is other. The competition and rhytm are much more difficult than in italy. He burns players and if our players couldnt cope under Mou, how will they survive under Conte? Conte is known for playing same players and doesnt like to rotate much which could be problem. He didnt even pick Insigne for italy despite he is on fire this season. Hazard would be burnt out soon under Conte. 

 

yeah that's why ranieri who's not even as good as conte is first in this league with a fodder club...

i dont even want conte because he's stubborn af, but let's stop the "my league is better than yours" hint

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

According to Corriere dello Sport Conte to Chelsea is done.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

42 minutes ago, marketing media pet said:

yeah that's why ranieri who's not even as good as conte is first in this league with a fodder club...

i dont even want conte because he's stubborn af, but let's stop the "my league is better than yours" hint

 

2 hours ago, Cosmin said:

So you're suggesting that the club should appoint a manager that's already working in the Premier League, because "x league is one thing, English is other"? 

Mourinho came from Portugal, Ancelotti came from Italy (!) and they were pretty successful even during their first season here. I think there is a question mark about the adaptability of Conte's methods, but it's not a sure thing that he won't be able to adapt. It's a risk, indeed, but anyone else rumoured to get the job would be a risk. 

About tactics and warriors, we do have warriors: Ivanovic, Azpi, Cahill, Matic, Costa, Willian, the young lads, they are all ready to put their head in the opponents' boot for a guy that knows how to motivate them. And we will buy more players, players that Conte wants. The tactics have to be changed, anyway, because we want to adopt another style. No more bus parking, of course devensive tactics will be back to square one. So what? After what we've been through this season, we can't expect someone to come here and perform miracles over the night. We want to change, so let Conte or whoever else change. 

P.S.: Hazard would be burnt out soon under anyone, if he doesn't wake the hell up for good and start running his heart out for the club. 

 

Im not even saying Conte would not succeed because its harder league. Imo he wouldnt succeed because of his training methods. It worked for him to play same players in italian league, but it wont work in england because they will get tired. Allegri, Ranieri, Ancelotti etc are all italians but IMO they could succeed in england. It has nothing to do with league or nationality. Its just Conte methods that IMO wont work here.

[Socur Toxanarosa 145]

50 minutes ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

According to Corriere dello Sport Conte to Chelsea is done.

Please god.

[lucio 5,418]

29 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

 

Im not even saying Conte would not succeed because its harder league. Imo he wouldnt succeed because of his training methods. It worked for him to play same players in italian league, but it wont work in england because they will get tired. Allegri, Ranieri, Ancelotti etc are all italians but IMO they could succeed in england. It has nothing to do with league or nationality. Its just Conte methods that IMO wont work here.

do we really know enough about his training methods, to say how everyone will react?  im sure mourinho runs them hard in training. and pocchettino is known for doing so, to an extreme level, and it has probably paid off

[Chelsea4 1,521]

12 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Why Conte doesnt suit league? Because his training methods dont suit it. Italian league is one thing, english is other. The competition and rhytm are much more difficult than in italy. He burns players and if our players couldnt cope under Mou, how will they survive under Conte? Conte is known for playing same players and doesnt like to rotate much which could be problem. He didnt even pick Insigne for italy despite he is on fire this season. Hazard would be burnt out soon under Conte. 

And our players warriors? Who? Who is willing to run whole game relentlessly regardless of result and fight for every ball? Willian, Azpi. Who else? Maybe Costa. The rest of the team is too slow or doesnt work hard enough to follow Conte methods and succeed. Not to mention Conte had great defense at juve. His team is oriented on balanced and organized defence. He would have lot of work with buying top defenders and midfielders and then creating a team out of it. He had bunch of italians and passionate players like Vidal at juve, which created special bond and mentality there. It would be alot harder to do that here because few players actualy showed they would 'die' for club. And without such players Conte wont get far.

Not to mention we will be back to square one with defensive tactics once again. I like strong defense, but with balanced play. Im sure if we pick Conte, we will watch more and more bunkers in every bigger game. And with all attacking players that we have, why not go for something more? Hiddink is doing fine job for example, IMO conte is just too defensive. Plus we dont have single italian here. Conte is known to be great mental leader and having so many italians back at juve surely helped create strong bonds and relationships. Never underestimate team players. Here I feel he would be somewhat out of place unless he brings couple of players he worked with before like Pogba, Vidal, Chielini, Verratti etc but good luck with getting any of those.

How do you know Conte training methods? Conte will make them warriors and they will fight if they don't then they will not play it's simple.Conte is too defensive WTF  Conte plays balanced/attacking football.

[Cosmin 2,484]

40 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

 

Im not even saying Conte would not succeed because its harder league. Imo he wouldnt succeed because of his training methods. It worked for him to play same players in italian league, but it wont work in england because they will get tired. Allegri, Ranieri, Ancelotti etc are all italians but IMO they could succeed in england. It has nothing to do with league or nationality. Its just Conte methods that IMO wont work here.

How do you know that?

[cosmicway 1,333]

Why not Bruce ?
Is it he is considered too old to be a permanent manager ?
I don't as a matter of fact see any better around.

[Socur Toxanarosa 145]

4 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Why not Bruce ?
Is it he is considered too old to be a permanent manager ?
I don't as a matter of fact see any better around.

Which Bruce? Steve Bruce? wtf

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 minute ago, Socur Toxanarosa said:

Which Bruce? Steve Bruce? wtf

I mean Guus.