The Next Manager?

[Adnane 1,101]

5 hours ago, xPetrCechx said:

Heynckes's Bayern >>> Pep's Bayern.

Heynckes's Bayern >>> Pretty much any team in the last 20 years except Pep's Barcelona.

So yeah, doesn't say an awful lot really.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

 

 

[Pizy 18,419]

Simeone or bust for me at this point. Pellegrini/Sampaoli/Ranieri? Please no...

[Spike 12,049]

Simeone draws too many comparisons to Mourinho for my taste. Both talented managers, but I'd like to see something new.

[Pizy 18,419]

23 minutes ago, Spike said:

Simeone draws too many comparisons to Mourinho for my taste. Both talented managers, but I'd like to see something new.

Like Steve Holland said just after José was sacked, this is a club and a team that requires a manager of big stature and experience. "Seeing something new" would likely mean giving some up and coming young manager their big break.

If we have ambitions of getting back to challenging for the league and CL immedietly we need a world class, proven, highly experienced manager. If we hire some of these candidates that are being linked with us I can see them getting sacked within 1 season or a season and a half after failing to get our expensive, diva superstars to play up to their ability.

Simeone to me seems like the kind of guy that can build something long term, have a set style and philosophy, and have us playing like a well oiled (and tough as nails) machine. He has proven and is proving again this season that he can take an underdog who can't spend unlimited money and have them eye to eye with the juggernauts. We get him here where he has players he's already familiar and also let him spend a nice chunk of money in the summer and I think we bnce straight back into title contention.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

23 minutes ago, Spike said:

Simeone draws too many comparisons to Mourinho for my taste. Both talented managers, but I'd like to see something new.

 

Name?

[Spike 12,049]

25 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Like Steve Holland said just after José was sacked, this is a club and a team that requires a manager of big stature and experience. "Seeing something new" would likely mean giving some up and coming young manager their big break.

If we have ambitions of getting back to challenging for the league and CL immedietly we need a world class, proven, highly experienced manager. If we hire some of these candidates that are being linked with us I can see them getting sacked within 1 season or a season and a half after failing to get our expensive, diva superstars to play up to their ability.

Simeone to me seems like the kind of guy that can build something long term, have a set style and philosophy, and have us playing like a well oiled (and tough as nails) machine. He has proven and is proving again this season that he can take an underdog who can't spend unlimited money and have them eye to eye with the juggernauts. We get him here where he has players he's already familiar and also let him spend a nice chunk of money in the summer and I think we bnce straight back into title contention.

I meant new as in a new approach, not over physicality and aggression; both hallmarks of Simeone and Mourinho. I said 'something new' not 'someone new'. So you replied to me in the completely wrong manner ayy lmao

Besides, Simeon has spent a ridiculous amount of money in the last few seasons, so I don't I see him as a 'shoestring manager'. Chelsea aren't as skint as people believe, the club isn't and won't be for a long time at a point where it can only spend money when it sells or whatnot. Chelsea aren't an underdog, that is the belief Mourinho instilled in the team [to seemingly the point where they grew tired of it], they are one of the richest clubs in England and are expected to win or at the very least challenge every year. The players know they aren't underdogs, so why does even factor in?

[Spike 12,049]

15 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

 

Name?

Pep, Pellegrini, Sampaoli, de Boer, Emery, Garcia, Conte or even Rogers.

[Kieran. 6,317]

27 minutes ago, Spike said:

Pep, Pellegrini, Sampaoli, de Boer, Emery, Garcia, Conte or even Rogers.

I like that you mention Rodgers. If hired with a defensive coach, we could see some really exciting football for once. 

[Pizy 18,419]

27 minutes ago, Spike said:

I meant new as in a new approach, not over physicality and aggression; both hallmarks of Simeone and Mourinho. I said 'something new' not 'someone new'. So you replied to me in the completely wrong manner ayy lmao

Besides, Simeon has spent a ridiculous amount of money in the last few seasons, so I don't I see him as a 'shoestring manager'. Chelsea aren't as skint as people believe, the club isn't and won't be for a long time at a point where it can only spend money when it sells or whatnot. Chelsea aren't an underdog, that is the belief Mourinho instilled in the team [to seemingly the point where they grew tired of it], they are one of the richest clubs in England and are expected to win or at the very least challenge every year. The players know they aren't underdogs, so why does even factor in?

What I meant with the underdog comment was that Simeone is able to do what he's done at Atleti as an underdog that no one gives a chance up against the two giants. If he's able to do that there then what would he be like with a huge budget and better players? Can't help but think he'd be even better.

The managers you've just named bar Pep are people that are either totally unproven like Sampaoli, cast-offs from clubs we're meant to rivals with (Pellegrini & Rodgers) or have managed teams who are the dominant ones in their weak leagues. Garcia was just sacked!

Any of those would be a huge risk.

[Spike 12,049]

1 minute ago, Pizy said:

What I meant with the underdog comment was that Simeone is able to do what he's done at Atleti as an underdog that no one gives a chance up against the two giants. If he's able to do that there then what would he be like with a huge budget and better players? Can't help but think he'd be even better.

The managers you've just named bar Pep are people that are either totally unproven like Sampaoli, cast-offs from clubs we're meant to rivals with (Pellegrini & Rodgers) or have managed teams who are the dominant ones in their weak leagues. Garcia was just sacked!

Any of those would be a huge risk.

 

Who actually cares where the manager has been? Bloody Ashley Cole is a legend here and he was an Arsenal lad, Lampard was from West Ham. etc. It's completely arbitrary and irrational. Concerning Garcia; Mourinho was also sacked when he became a Chelsea coach as was Benetiz and Robbie di Matteo. The same 'huge budget and better players' applies to Garcia as well as Simeone. Cholo is one of the best manager in the world, but I don't like his style, I'm sick of this physical nonsense purveyed by coaches like him and Mourinho. Those managers are proven they've all been around for 7+ years, not every manager signed has to have the pedigree of Ancellotti or Guardiola.

Simeone is also a risk. Any manager is a risk, any transfer is a risk. 

[Essien19 1,415]

Maybe the days of getting some of the best players in the world are gone.

We need someone who isn't a yes man and plays the youth.

I like Simeone but bringing him here would mean that we end atletico's fairytale, would be sad.

Anyway it's a only a matter of time when the next manager gets the sack.

Hiring a new worldclass manager and then denying him the funds, so he has to get used to our average squad.

That's the Chelsea way, imo.

[Reddish-Blue 2,356]

2 hours ago, Spike said:

 

Who actually cares where the manager has been? Bloody Ashley Cole is a legend here and he was an Arsenal lad, Lampard was from West Ham. etc. It's completely arbitrary and irrational. Concerning Garcia; Mourinho was also sacked when he became a Chelsea coach as was Benetiz and Robbie di Matteo. The same 'huge budget and better players' applies to Garcia as well as Simeone. Cholo is one of the best manager in the world, but I don't like his style, I'm sick of this physical nonsense purveyed by coaches like him and Mourinho. Those managers are proven they've all been around for 7+ years, not every manager signed has to have the pedigree of Ancellotti or Guardiola.

Simeone is also a risk. Any manager is a risk, any transfer is a risk. 

Signing Rudi Garcia would be like giving AVB a second chance...bottom line: neither of them are good enough to be manager of Chelsea fc.

The only options I see out there:  Simeone, Pellegrini, Rodgers, Conte (after euro-2016), De Boer (would require a massive shake up)

[Henrique 9,133]

11 hours ago, milka said:

Diego Simeone is a Mourinho 2 .  Who wanna  ?
We need   young manager with modern tactic , attacking football .

meanwhile

 

Mourinho and Simeone are two different animals. Thats not fair to compare both. Simeone is way better at this moment. Many will disagree, but Atletico reaching 2014 Finals and winning La Liga was for SImeone a bigger achievement than Mourinho's best season (2010 with Inter). Simeone put Mourinho in his pocket in 2014 UCL semi-finals, and those 2 legs is the difference between Mourinho and Simeone. 

During 1st leg Mourinho just decided to park the bus. Parked the bus for 90 minutes. That was perhaps the most negative football I've ever seen from Chelsea, and don't compare with games against Barcelona or 2012 final against Bayern, because that was a situation where the opponent had a more expensive squad and had stellar squads. That was different in 2014. Many people said Atletico's squad was better. Perhaps, but not better to justify parking the bus for 90 minutes.

During 2nd leg many believe Atletico was going to park the bus. That never happened. Atletico was better for 90 minutes. They went to HT with the result they needed 1-1. If Mourinho was the one with the result in his hands, probably he would park the bus for the entire 2nd half. Atletico to other side still looked for 2nd goal. After they scored the 2nd, they created chances to score a 3rd and even scored a 3rd. That was massacre. Mourinho was powerless. 

Simeone works with limited budge. Mourinho usually are free to spend, and every time he is not spending for fun, he find himself with problems.

Simeone is made in Argentinian style, that has nothing to do with ultra defensive tactics we see in Mourinho.

[Special 59]

Now that we've lost the best, I want the one who learned from the best:

http://www.inter.it/en/news/31065

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

7 hours ago, Special said:

Now that we've lost the best, I want the one who learned from the best:

http://www.inter.it/en/news/31065

who?

[TheIceMan 596]

1 hour ago, xPetrCechx said:

who?

Open the link MoFu!

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

2 minutes ago, TheIceMan said:

Open the link MoFu!

didn't see it first...

on phone your link is not under the sentence you wrote...