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It is heart breaking to see Chelsea in such a mess while man city is going from strength to strength in how it they're run :-(

Imagine how City fans must feel right now. Likely to win the league this season, CL campaign going well enough, have an owner that doesn't give a shit about FFP and will spend whatever it takes, and now they have Pep Guardiola coming in next season.

They missed out on the title last season by 8 points and have now set themselves up brillinatly for the future. We won the league at a canter and have taken a massive step back and could be rebuilding for a couple of years.

Don't think there's a club in Europe with a brighter future than them. :(

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Imagine how City fans must feel right now. Likely to win the league this season, CL campaign going well enough, have an owner that doesn't give a shit about FFP and will spend whatever it takes, and now they have Pep Guardiola coming in next season.

They missed out on the title last season by 8 points and have now set themselves up brillinatly for the future. We won the league at a canter and have taken a massive step back and could be rebuilding for a couple of years.

Don't think there's a club in Europe with a brighter future than them. :(

And still at the end nobody cares.

When they win no one cares. It's all about United or Liverpool.

A small team that no one will care unless they win the CL back to back.

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Oh, fuck off! :lol:

Exposed last season as Wenger-light. Tactically inept when things go against him. Can't adapt his tactics and can set his teams out in basically one way and one way only.

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Just look at our approach when we played Atletico and look at Simeone's approach. That shows the difference between Mourinho and Simeone. There is defending but there is something where you attack with numbers and in style.

True. Terrified for Simeone turning into Mourinho mk. II but it would really just be like Mourinho at his best rather than his worst.

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Imagine how City fans must feel right now. Likely to win the league this season, CL campaign going well enough, have an owner that doesn't give a shit about FFP and will spend whatever it takes, and now they have Pep Guardiola coming in next season.

They missed out on the title last season by 8 points and have now set themselves up brillinatly for the future. We won the league at a canter and have taken a massive step back and could be rebuilding for a couple of years.

Don't think there's a club in Europe with a brighter future than them. :(

You see it that way ? And I remember last year we were the best run club, winning the league and making profit.

With money there are enormous expectations. City imploded once already in 12-13 season. They scrapped win against Swansea last week. Can concede 4 against Tottenham and Liverpool, lose against West Ham and against in crysis Juventus at home. It's really not that rosy. And they still didn't figure out how to deal with those injuries.

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You see it that way ? And I remember last year we were the best run club, winning the league and making profit.

With money there are enormous expectations. City imploded once already in 12-13 season. They scrapped win against Swansea last week. Can concede 4 against Tottenham and Liverpool, lose against West Ham and against in crysis Juventus at home. It's really not that rosy. And they still didn't figure out how to deal with those injuries.

Our board did a phenomenal job last season and then completely failed to build on it this past summer.

Despite all the issues you described, they're still in perfect position to compete for the league.

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Just look at our approach when we played Atletico and look at Simeone's approach. That shows the difference between Mourinho and Simeone. There is defending but there is something where you attack with numbers and in style.

Not true at all. You are comparing one of oour most unbalanced teams ever with Atleticos best year in the last couple of decades. Which is neither indicative nor fair in the comparison between the two managers.

Mourinho's first squad would tear that Atletico apart...

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Not true at all. You are comparing one of oour most unbalanced teams ever with Atleticos best year in the last couple of decades. Which is neither indicative nor fair in the comparison between the two managers.

Mourinho's first squad would tear that Atletico apart...

Mourinho would of done the same this season and last season. The way we set up at PSG, Simeone would never be that defensive. The counter attacking approach would of been much more incisive.

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Mourinho would of done the same this season and last season. The way we set up at PSG, Simeone would never be that defensive. The counter attacking approach would of been much more incisive.

Sorry, you just cant say that. You simply dont know. You are basing all of this because of ONE work of his in Atletico. You cant sit and say Simeone wouldnt be as defensive had he our squad to manage instead of Altetico's.

If you looked at our team in 04-07 we also werent nearly as defensive. But that is because we had a killer team. Back then Mourinho wasnt as defensive (just like you are arguing Simeone isnt), but that is because he had a squad to do so.

Anyways, what I am trying to say and it is true is that in the first pressure moment Simeone has here in CFC he will turn all defensive. Plus the fact he has a personality very, very similar to Jose and boom...2015 all over again. Sorry if you cant see it but its true.

Now, if we change 90% of our squad Simeone might be the perfect Manager but then if we do that I will ask you, what was the point of firing Jose?

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Sorry, you just cant say that. You simply dont know. You are basing all of this because of ONE work of his in Atletico. You cant sit and say Simeone wouldnt be as defensive had he our squad to manage instead of Altetico's.

If you looked at our team in 04-07 we also werent nearly as defensive. But that is because we had a killer team. Back then Mourinho wasnt as defensive (just like you are arguing Simeone isnt), but that is because he had a squad to do so.

Anyways, what I am trying to say and it is true is that in the first pressure moment Simeone has here in CFC he will turn all defensive. Plus the fact he has a personality very, very similar to Jose and boom...2015 all over again. Sorry if you cant see it but its true.

Now, if we change 90% of our squad Simeone might be the perfect Manager but then if we do that I will ask you, what was the point of firing Jose?

I think he gets the right balance right. Time will tell if he could replicate his style at Atletico if he was to be appointed here but for one I think he develops a greater rapport with players. I never have liked Jose's idea of playing Azpi at LB and having Ivan at RB for long term. If Simeone came here when Luis was here, no way would he of allowed him to depart. Also I just prefer his general attitude and think he would get the best out of our players. What he has done with Atletico is nothing short of sensational and he is at it again this season.

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Sorry, you just cant say that. You simply dont know. You are basing all of this because of ONE work of his in Atletico. You cant sit and say Simeone wouldnt be as defensive had he our squad to manage instead of Altetico's.

If you looked at our team in 04-07 we also werent nearly as defensive. But that is because we had a killer team. Back then Mourinho wasnt as defensive (just like you are arguing Simeone isnt), but that is because he had a squad to do so.

Anyways, what I am trying to say and it is true is that in the first pressure moment Simeone has here in CFC he will turn all defensive. Plus the fact he has a personality very, very similar to Jose and boom...2015 all over again. Sorry if you cant see it but its true.

Now, if we change 90% of our squad Simeone might be the perfect Manager but then if we do that I will ask you, what was the point of firing Jose?

Assuming we keep all these

------------Courtois-----------

Cesar----?????---Zouma----Baba

--------Matic---??????------

Willian-----Oscar--------Hazard

-----------Costa--------------

That's a line up to fit Simeone before we get players in. Pedro could easily replace one of them 3 AMs also.

He will also probably keep Terry, Cahill, Ramires, Begovic and maybe even Mikel and Amelia as squad players aswell as likely give Kennedy, RLC and maybe another couple of young players a squad place.

Ivanovic, Cesc, Remy and Falcao will likely be the casulties if Diego comesin. Only Remy because at 29 the club might want to get a decent fee while they still can.

So that already accounts for 18-19 squad places, he will probably want 4-5 quality additions to improve the first Xl and squad depth but all things considered, that isn't an unreasonable demand.

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I think he gets the right balance right. Time will tell if he could replicate his style at Atletico if he was to be appointed here but for one I think he develops a greater rapport with players. I never have liked Jose's idea of playing Azpi at LB and having Ivan at RB for long term. If Simeone came here when Luis was here, no way would he of allowed him to depart. Also I just prefer his general attitude and think he would get the best out of our players. What he has done with Atletico is nothing short of sensational and he is at it again this season.

Ok, I get what you are saying but I still disagree and I think the two examples you gave me are really terrible.

1. Mourinho tried to find a LB. Filipe Luis and Baba were signed but both didnt impress him. I dont think Jose really thought Azi as LB and Iva as RB were long term solutions. I am not excusing him for failing to adress it or anything. But its not like he didnt try or thought they were long term solutions.

2. Luis is not even a top defender, he makes too many mistakes. Plus the money was absurd. The true mistake was not signing anyone to replace him. But selling him was excellent business. Just like Simeone didnt hesitate to sell Falcao and then Costa. The difference is he replaced them with the proper personel.

Now, again to the Simeone thing. He works best when he has players of strong character and will in his squad. Jist like Didier, JT, Lampard, Cole and Cech were for us in the past decade. However, this squad we have is different. Hazard Fabregas, Zouma, William and Oscar dont have leadership and strong character. They are great players but they arent built to work with a manager on the style of Simeone, Mourinho, Ferguson, etc. It wont work.

The only way Simeone would work on Chelsea is if he comes and changes the whole squad. Buuuuuut that is where I questioned you in my previous quote. If we would need to change the majority of our squad for Simeone to come, why didnt we just let Jose keep the job and let him rebuild in the next two windows?

So, I honestly think its better to try to find a manager that fits what works with the players that we have rather than to try to create another conflict between those players and a new manager. Thats why I dont want Simeone. I want someone like Bielsa, San Paoli or even Guus if he can do a great job.

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