Man City 4-0 Chelsea

[Hot Dawg 17]

10 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Would n't be better if we were comunist.

Use spellchecker before you start the revolution bruv 🤣

[Laylabelle 9,535]

Me and my mum do a bet/predictions start of the season. She was in a bad mood so hers was doom and gloom...except 2 of them are correct! Think her league one will be too..and potentially champs league. Booo

[dimmas 131]

1 hour ago, milka said:

Someone can remind me, did tuchel actually able to implement good style of play, integrating young player, being tactically flexible? I always afraid our ucl triumph hide many poor aspects while tuchel still here

What i still remember from tuchel regime was there also a lot of frustating and disappointing display, relatively poor against big five aswell, his team was very inconsistent to play some decent football.

In his 2nd year everything just getting worse, our football was very worrying, our team even play so awful against some asian and south american team in CWC. In his last one and half year, tuchel hardly able (or failed) to give some hope or certain indication he actually able to change and improve the team

 

Edited January 8, 2023 by dimmas

[Vegetable 830]

24 minutes ago, dimmas said:

Someone can remind me, did tuchel actually able to implement good style of play, integrating young player, being tactically flexible?

Didn't he impose quite relentless press, efficient distribution from the back and different approach to each opponent, at least in first season? Actually a lot of players had to overcome their weaknesses to pull it off, although we always missed a striker to capitalize on it. Rotation yeah, he was super stubborn, but again, we were actually competing for something, so not many opportunities to integrate youth.

I love how the "good football" became buzzword here, that actually means nothing but can be used as argument on any occasion. If some is thinking that any rebuild is making us playing some Pele-sque trickshot jorga bonito football in Premier League in XXI century then yeah, cool. We are also not banging in 5 every game without anyone who could at least pretend to be a striker. As for a team clearly worse than top3 we could only do so much and the manager can only "improve" so much without roster change. We can aim for clinical style of City, but it's different league of club management and recruitment.

TT had clearly reached the wall, but he did well with what he had and this whole "rebuild", done smartly, could greatly help him. What he did when he took over was a miracle, but it's not like he could go for 3 back to back CL wins with this squad and mess of club management. Getting constant CL football was actually more than we could expect, given the circumstances.

Edited January 8, 2023 by Vegetable

[Fulham Broadway 17,313]

''Chelsea fans booed their team off at half-time and full time and also chanted for the former manager Thomas Tuchel and the former owner Roman Abramovich as they endured a fifth defeat in seven matches.''

''The Football Association, meanwhile, has condemned the chants of “Chelsea rent boys” from Manchester City fans during the game.''

[Blue Armour 4,439]

Know this is Silva's wife., but his opinion could not be too far removed.

She's practically talking about reinstating Tuchel., looks like.

Edited January 8, 2023 by Blue Armour

[Fulham Broadway 17,313]

16 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

Know this is Silva's wife., but his opinion could not be too far removed.

She's practically talking about reinstating Tuchel., looks like.

Nah, she talking about her fling with JT. Probably.

[Vesper 30,175]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

''Chelsea fans booed their team off at half-time and full time and also chanted for the former manager Thomas Tuchel and the former owner Roman Abramovich as they endured a fifth defeat in seven matches.''

''The Football Association, meanwhile, has condemned the chants of “Chelsea rent boys” from Manchester City fans during the game.''

Like Manure, the other Manc team's followers will be allowed to exhibit open homophobia with nothing of import done.

[cosmicway 1,333]

To fix this team is a Herculean task, having already wasted lots of money last summer uselessly.
To put it in numbers one billion plus is needed.
And when I say one billion it must be in one season. One billion in five-six seasons means nothing, given also that players come of age.

I 've seen in my lifetime a big Chelsea team destroyed. The 1971 team (Osgood-Cooke-Hudson ...).
After a few years we were playing second division football and only after Roman in the nineties did the world see us again.
But in 1971 the board was penniless. For three-four years there was not one tranfer made (good-medium quality-failed).
Now it's supposed to be a different Chelsea. But just the same the clouds are gathering.

[Hashishi 148]

10 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

To fix this team is a Herculean task, having already wasted lots of money last summer uselessly.
To put it in numbers one billion plus is needed.
And when I say one billion it must be in one season. One billion in five-six seasons means nothing, given also that players come of age.

I 've seen in my lifetime a big Chelsea team destroyed. The 1971 team (Osgood-Cooke-Hudson ...).
After a few years we were playing second division football and only after Roman in the nineties did the world see us again.
But in 1971 the board was penniless. For three-four years there was not one tranfer made (good-medium quality-failed).
Now it's supposed to be a different Chelsea. But just the same the clouds are gathering.

Please dont say things like this. I already feel like this fool is taking us to relegation. We wont be in UCL for years...

[HEREIAM 83]

Potter needs to look after his job, forget about upsetting players.

Start by dumping KK, JORGINHO and HAVETZ

my team against Fulham would be ...

                        kepa

Chalobah       Silva        Humphreys/Badiashile

Azpi          Zakaria     Hall       Cucurella

Mount                Forfana              Chuk    

[gdlk 286]

And with what Mount deserves to be in starting 11??

Its obvious that players dont know what to do with the ball on their feet. No tactic, nothing... Even movement is wrong. We relly on Tuchels implementation of short passes but guess players lost all. 

Even pressing is disaster. 

Edited January 9, 2023 by gdlk

[Antonio8 736]

6 hours ago, HEREIAM said:

Potter needs to look after his job, forget about upsetting players.

Start by dumping KK, JORGINHO and HAVETZ

my team against Fulham would be ...

                        kepa

Chalobah       Silva        Humphreys/Badiashile

Azpi          Zakaria     Hall       Cucurella

Mount                Forfana              Chuk    

please no more cucurella.

KK is ok in a 4-line defence, but is totally unable to play in a 3-line defence.

we need a striker. a real striker, someone like vlahovic or kane

[Vegetable 830]

6 hours ago, HEREIAM said:

Potter needs to look after his job, forget about upsetting players.

 

I doubt it's that easy. The very moment dressing room revolts against him he is done and we have first signs of it already. Let alone the fact I doubt he ever got the dressing room behind him in the first place. You cannot be a manager for years if players are against you (and we are not having 23 new men in january, so there is that)  

[OhForAGreavsie 6,073]

On 08/01/2023 at 23:51, cosmicway said:

fter a few years we were playing second division football and only after Roman in the nineties did the world see us again.
But in 1971 the board was penniless. For three-four years there was not one tranfer made (good-medium quality-failed).

David Hay joined for a reported £250,000 in 1974. At he time this was the second highest British transfer fee ever paid. It was though a typical Blues move. Getting carried away and overpaying for a flavour of the month player. Hay was a very ordinary footballer and did nothing for the club.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,073]

On 08/01/2023 at 18:43, Vesper said:

the NHS after years of Tory cunt-ups

What they've done is deliberate.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,073]

On 08/01/2023 at 17:47, We Hate Scouse said:

39 games 14 goals Haaland

42 games 15 goals Fofana

At least give the kid a chance before you write him off. 

 

DDF has bags of skill. As posted previously, I really like what I've seen from him in that regard. The charge against him is bad decision making or, putting it more bluntly, selfishness when on the ball. It's a serious, potentially fatal, flaw. It did for Daniel Sturridge and it may do for our new boy.

[guddy69 174]

16 hours ago, HEREIAM said:

Potter needs to look after his job, forget about upsetting players.

Start by dumping KK, JORGINHO and HAVETZ

my team against Fulham would be ...

                        kepa

Chalobah       Silva        Humphreys/Badiashile

Azpi          Zakaria     Hall       Cucurella

Mount                Forfana              Chuk    

not Mount, not again please.

[cosmicway 1,333]

On 10/01/2023 at 03:30, OhForAGreavsie said:

David Hay joined for a reported £250,000 in 1974. At he time this was the second highest British transfer fee ever paid. It was though a typical Blues move. Getting carried away and overpaying for a flavour of the month player. Hay was a very ordinary footballer and did nothing for the club.

And Alan Hudson from us to Arsenal the previous record.
By 1974 the team of the cup winners cup was gone.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,073]

4 hours ago, cosmicway said:

And Alan Hudson from us to Arsenal the previous record.
By 1974 the team of the cup winners cup was gone.

Hudson moved from Chelsea to Stoke remember. He then later joined Arsenal from them.

I was scratching my head trying to remember who from the 1970 Cup Final side was still around in 1974. I came up with Bonetti, Harris, Hinton, Hutchinson, and McCreadie. Marvin only made the bench in '70 but, looking back with modern thinking about football, I reckon he was one of the better Blues' players of that era.