Graham Potter Thread

[Fernando 6,585]

Meh still not changed my mind. A write of season he will still be here unless we go into relegation fight. 

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

37 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

I don't see a point to sack him now. Season is over except CL. All PL games for the remaining of the season are glorified friendlies. No chance for Europe and we won't get relegated. Position in between does not matter. 

So hypothetically, lets just say keep GP to the end of the season meaning that it will all but confirm we have no chance of salvaging the second half of season? All but sealing our fate of finishing outside the top 6 and having no European football? Yeah great how we gonna make any progress next year with no CL or European football? 

I don’t think people understand, if we finish outside the top 8, we aren’t signing any top players in the summer. Nada. Zilch. Because they will all go somewhere else for the CL/to compete for trophies.

Its like the first half of the AVB season all again. But worse.

[YorkshireBlue 3,264]

Big injury list, 1 transfer that looked good btw, got sent of but still, he's to put with this useless squad TTs shit transfers, give the guy a fucking break, if you think we lose that game with our full squad then your deluded, let's look at what he did with a full squad oh yes that's right he tore AC Milan a new arse Hole twice, he got us into the knock out stages, wtf did u expect when our injury list can make a team that's better than one we put out. New manger comes in brilliant is he a fucking witch doctors that heals all our players instantly? Did u think rebuilding and changing direction was going to be quick easy and fun? What if a new manager comes on and is just as bad the another then another? Poch u must be fucking joking or on drugs if you think that's a good idea 

[Vytis33 1,261]

Every single healthy player is underperforming at the same time under this manager.  Probably just a coincidence. 

[Vegetable 830]

13 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Big injury list, 1 transfer that looked good btw, got sent of but still, he's to put with this useless squad TTs shit transfers, give the guy a fucking break, if you think we lose that game with our full squad then your deluded, let's look at what he did with a full squad oh yes that's right he tore AC Milan a new arse Hole twice, he got us into the knock out stages, wtf did u expect when our injury list can make a team that's better than one we put out. New manger comes in brilliant is he a fucking witch doctors that heals all our players instantly? Did u think rebuilding and changing direction was going to be quick easy and fun? What if a new manager comes on and is just as bad the another then another? Poch u must be fucking joking or on drugs if you think that's a good idea 

U say our today's squad is worse than Fulham? And Forest? I wouldn't. 

I had enough of "rebuilding" "changing direction" (towards the wrong end of the table I guess) and injuries excuses. At the moment, I'd not complain about Poch. I wouldn't even complain about our U21 staff or like whoever who had actually proven his ability to manage TOP team. 

Edited January 12, 2023 by Vegetable

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

16 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Big injury list, 1 transfer that looked good btw, got sent of but still, he's to put with this useless squad TTs shit transfers, give the guy a fucking break, if you think we lose that game with our full squad then your deluded, let's look at what he did with a full squad oh yes that's right he tore AC Milan a new arse Hole twice, he got us into the knock out stages, wtf did u expect when our injury list can make a team that's better than one we put out. New manger comes in brilliant is he a fucking witch doctors that heals all our players instantly? Did u think rebuilding and changing direction was going to be quick easy and fun? What if a new manager comes on and is just as bad the another then another? Poch u must be fucking joking or on drugs if you think that's a good idea 

A lot of excuse’s there mate. Lets be frank. 

If you insist on a lot of that then heres another way to look at it.

Tell me one player who has improved considerably under Potter? His reputation is specifically meant to be built around developing players and coaching teams. Who has come on and is playing good consistently he’s came in? Or is it not his fault and all 25 of our squad are inconsistent? 

A big bulk of this squad won the CL, CWC & Super Cup in the last 2 years so cut the shit squad nonsense. Lacking in areas, yes, but hardly shit. Not as good as City & Liverpool maybe but definitely as good as United, Spurs, Arsenals squad.

And then, barring the AC Milan games, who were the last half decent team we dispatched comfortably? You’ll be scratching your head for a while tryna answer those mate because I think we’ve lost or drawn to most top teams we’ve played under him so far.

Also, the 2 AC Milan games were in October for fuck sake. Would be may as well saying about us beating Fulham 3-0 under Rafa in 2013. It would be about as relevant as using those 2 games which were Potter’s 3rd & 4th matches in charge IIRC - and most new managers get that first couple wins from the new manager bounce regardless - so it is absolutely stupid to use that as a barometer because it was that long ago and things started going downhill pretty fucking quickly after we played Brentford 2 weeks later.
 

But yeah 2 games v AC Milan wow he’s done a fantastic job…..

Edited January 12, 2023 by OneMoSalah

[YorkshireBlue 3,264]

8 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

U say our today's squad is worse than Fulham? And Forest? I wouldn't. 

I had enough of "rebuilding" "changing direction" (towards the wrong end of the table I guess) and injuries excuses. At the moment, I'd not complain about Poch. I wouldn't even complain about our U21 staff or like whoever who had actually proven his ability to manage TOP team. 

Poch failed to win the league with psg enough said

[YorkshireBlue 3,264]

19 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

A lot of excuse’s there mate. Lets be frank. 

If you insist on a lot of that then heres another way to look at it.

Tell me one player who has improved considerably under Potter? His reputation is specifically meant to be built around developing players and coaching teams. Who has come on and is playing good consistently he’s came in? Or is it not his fault and all 25 of our squad are inconsistent? 

A big bulk of this squad won the CL, CWC & Super Cup in the last 2 years so cut the shit squad nonsense. Lacking in areas, yes, but hardly shit. Not as good as City & Liverpool maybe but definitely as good as United, Spurs, Arsenals squad.

And then, barring the AC Milan games, who were the last half decent team we dispatched comfortably? You’ll be scratching your head for a while tryna answer those mate because I think we’ve lost or drawn to most top teams we’ve played under him so far. 

If you think this squad is decent then your deluded our best player is 38 Years old,our midfield is a joke our defence ATM is mdd table at best, Kai has been shit regardless of the manager ziyech, pulisic just awful under TT, did you see kepa today? Do you think he's been told to be that fucking stupid? Do you think the players are been told to not make runs not get into pockets? No creative fuck all and pretend you can't defend? Not what we saw his Brighton team do is it, let's get of this we have a CL winning squad, because the word is HAD, KK Kai ziyech cuca are awful buys, blame the manager all you want of it makes you feel better, this has been along time coming and it's finally here

Edited January 12, 2023 by YorkshireBlue

[Vegetable 830]

2 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Poch failed to win the league with psg enough said

Did he also pushed them to relegation zone? Surely he had a ton of injuries, bad transfers, ownership issues and Mercury retrograde on the way. 

Hardly any spectacular manager is available, if any, but GP is a lost cause. Poch, who I don't fancy, not winning the league is still miles ahead in terms of quality.

[YorkshireBlue 3,264]

5 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

Did he also pushed them to relegation zone? Surely he had a ton of injuries, bad transfers, ownership issues and Mercury retrograde on the way. 

Hardly any spectacular manager is available, if any, but GP is a lost cause. Poch, who I don't fancy, not winning the league is still miles ahead in terms of quality.

And poch comes and fails because he's also trash then what? Another sacked managers transfer we have to try fit in different style of play, and the merry go round goes on and on 

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

8 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

If you think this squad is decent then your deluded our best player is 38 Years old,our midfield is a joke pir defence ATM is mod table at best, Kai has been shit regardless of the manager ziyech, pulisic just awful under TT, did you see kepa today? Do you think he's been told to be that fucking stupid? Do you think the players are been told to not make runs not get into pockets? No creative fuck all and pretend you can't defend? Not what we saw his Brighton team do is it, let's get of this we have a CL winning squad, because the word is HAD, KK Kai ziyech cuca are awful buys, blame the manager all you want of it makes you feel better, this has been along time coming and it's finally here

You never answered any of the questions though.

Good managers develop players and the team. For example, and this is just ones off top of my head recently and over past seasons: Rashford with EtH, Bernardo Silva with Pep, Son with Conte, Odegaard with Arteta…. Etc etc.

Who has GP developed or improved? A man whos renowned for developing players? Name me one from his spell here? May be short but there hasn’t been anyone who has really set the world alight or even improved considerably. The only one who I think could of actually been considered would of been Kepa. And that says it all considering the last 2 games.

And when was the last time we comfortably beat a good team under him? Probably was the AC Milan games… in October…. months ago. 

Edited January 13, 2023 by OneMoSalah

[Vegetable 830]

8 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

And poch comes and fails because he's also trash then what? Another sacked managers transfer we have to try fit in different style of play, and the merry go round goes on and on 

Most sane people could see sacking TT at the time was huge mistake as there is no quality replacement in sight. Potter is as fit for this job as any other guy on the street, so in this case I have no problem with merry go around of managers who are at least competent and can deliver results adequate to the level of the team they are managing. 

We need sporting director to build vision, philosophy and squad, not desperately holding to sub par manager for this. 

Edited January 13, 2023 by Vegetable