Chelsea Transfers

[Jase 43,479]

  On 03/10/2020 at 18:42, Puliiszola said:

We should be looking to get our house in order. 

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No one said we shouldn't.

[Pizy 18,552]

Partey would be one hell of a consolation if Rice is impossible but I think Frank will just want to wait. We waited for Chilly when he was by far Frank's first choice target, I'm sure we'll wait here as well.

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Jase 43,479]

  On 03/10/2020 at 18:54, Pizy said:

Partey would be one hell of a consolation if Rice is impossible but I think Frank will just want to wait. We waited for Chilly when he was by far Frank's first choice target, I'm sure we'll wait here as well.

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It's one thing having to wait because of a transfer ban and then 6 months but it's another to wait potentially 12 months to solve a problematic issue in the team. 

[Pizy 18,552]

  On 03/10/2020 at 18:58, Jason said:

It's one thing having to wait because of a transfer ban and then 6 months but it's another to wait potentially 12 months to solve a problematic issue in the team. 

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True. But in this case it's a player who probably dreams of playing here and one who Frank knows extremely well. 

Who knows, maybe Lamps still views Rice as a CB and we can get Partey this year and Rice next. 🤔

[R2D2 368]

If we manage to pull Partey as well it would be an out of this world transfer window, hope it happens.

[Puliiszola 519]

  On 03/10/2020 at 18:54, Pizy said:

Partey would be one hell of a consolation if Rice is impossible but I think Frank will just want to wait. We waited for Chilly when he was by far Frank's first choice target, I'm sure we'll wait here as well.

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That might also have been because chilwell's alternatives were on the same level as him and not pl proven. 

Partey is on a totally different level. One of the best imo. 

Personally I would love him here. 

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

  On 03/10/2020 at 19:36, Puliiszola said:

That might also have been because chilwell's alternatives were on the same level as him and not pl proven. 

Partey is on a totally different level. One of the best imo. 

Personally I would love him here. 

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We he problem with partey is he is just 2 years younger than Kanté. I would rather stick with what we have and sign Zakaria next year

[King Kante 1,563]

If we manage to get Partey, then it will be time to have a Party. 

[R2D2 368]

  On 03/10/2020 at 19:54, Magic Lamps said:

We he problem with partey is he is just 2 years younger than Kanté. I would rather stick with what we have and sign Zakaria next year

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Problem is Rice might still be our main target next season, I'd rather get Partey than waiting for Rice next season. As for Zakaria maybe we can get him as well next year on top of Partey this year and sell Kante.

[Jase 43,479]

People keep on mentioning Zakaria and I don't think we have even been linked with him at all.  

[killer1257 3,282]

  On 03/10/2020 at 20:05, Jason said:

People keep on mentioning Zakaria and I don't think we have even been linked with him at all. [emoji38] 

Christian Falk said that he is on the list with Rice

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  On 03/10/2020 at 20:17, killer1257 said:

Christian Falk said that he is on the list with Rice

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Okay but he has hardly been mentioned at all by the media. And I doubt Gladbach will let him go at this point. 

[King Kante 1,563]

  On 03/10/2020 at 19:58, R2D2 said:

Problem is Rice might still be our main target next season, I'd rather get Partey than waiting for Rice next season. As for Zakaria maybe we can get him as well next year on top of Partey this year and sell Kante.

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This is very true. Rice is pretty much a tough buy for the next 2-3 years owing to his contract and the fact he Wet Spams best player. Even if we wait to next Summer we aren't certain we would get him. Further, whilst I have warmed to Rice a lot since the start of last season, the figures being mentioned are slightly crazy. For me, Partey still has another good 5 years in him and he is reasonable value. All in all, Partey is the one that makes most sense. 

[Vesper 29,448]

Antonio Rudiger open to Spurs loan move after latest snub by Frank Lampard

https://theathletic.com/2111049/2020/10/03/antonio-rudiger-chelsea-open-spurs-loan-transfer-tottenham/

Chelsea are playing their sixth game of the season against Crystal Palace on Saturday afternoon, and Antonio Rudiger will not feature once again.

It is arguably the surprise story of their season so far. Since being an unused substitute in the opening Premier League fixture at Brighton & Hove Albion, Rudiger has not even made a match-day squad — and that includes the Carabao Cup match at home to Barnsley.

By his own admission, 2019-30 did not go smoothly for the centre-back. However, just over two months ago, the 27-year-old started the FA Cup final against Arsenal. A week before, he had helped Chelsea keep a clean sheet in a 2-0 win over Wolverhampton Wanderers which secured a fourth finish and a Champions League place for this season.

It makes the fall from grace, and the sheer extent of it, all the more noteworthy. It’s certainly come as a surprise to Rudiger.

So how has he found himself in this predicament and what will happen next?

For starters, his absence has not been caused by any injury concerns, nor have there been any major disagreements with head coach Frank Lampard.  The only explanation offered by the latter during a brief conversation with the defender is that it is a football decision and there are simply other players who are currently preferred at his position.

It is clear Rudiger runs the risk of playing little football this season should he remain at Stamford Bridge. That would be unappealing for any professional, but that is even more the case for Rudiger because he wants to represent Germany at the European Championship finals next summer.

The transfer window closes at 11pm UK time on Monday and the search for a potential new club has understandably stepped up over the last few days. A decision about what happens next could be made internally at Chelsea today. But the situation is complex and it could take until the final hours of the window to reach a conclusion. Even then, there are no certainties he will leave at all.

It is understood the clubs who have expressed an interest in Rudiger are Tottenham Hotspur, AC Milan, Inter Milan, Roma and Barcelona, but it is not clear where he will end up at this stage for various reasons.

Tottenham are Rudiger’s preferred destination.

His complaint about being racially abused by Spurs fans during Chelsea’s 2-0 win there last December is not a factor and would not put him off joining them. The north London club had looked at Milan Skriniar from Inter. That is all but over, so the Chelsea man is their main target.

However, Chelsea are reluctant to grant Rudiger such a move. Relations between the two capital rivals have not been good during the Roman Abramovich era. The last player to leave Stamford Bridge for Spurs was back-up goalkeeper Carlo Cudicini 11 years ago and that was on a free transfer when the Italian was 35 years old. There is still some upset felt at Chelsea over being beaten by Spurs to the 2017 purchase of Swansea striker Fernando Llorente — a player their then-manager Antonio Conte very much wanted.

After qualifying for the group stage of the Europa League this week, AC Milan made their latest enquiry on Rudiger, having already lodged one before. Yet even with the extra funds European club competition is going to provide, a loan move has been deemed too expensive.

Meanwhile, neighbours Inter proposed a swap deal with an unknown squad member, but Chelsea rejected that. The other Serie A club in the mix, Roma — with whom Rudiger spent two seasons from 2015-17 before a £29 million move to Stamford Bridge — see him as a potential alternative if there are any complications in their bid to re-sign Chris Smalling from Manchester United after his loan spell last season.

There is the exciting prospect of Barcelona being a possible destination, but the La Liga club are trying to figure out what to do with their fringe centre-backs Samuel Umtiti and Jean-Clair Todibo first, so there is a question mark as to whether they can do anything concrete.

To add to the intrigue is how Chelsea want to resolve the situation.

Last month it was envisaged that Fikayo Tomori would be the one leaving on loan for the season, and an agreement for him to go to Everton was close.

It is believed sections of the hierarchy would prefer Tomori to make way. They hold Rudiger in high regard and even now would rather he stayed.

But once Lampard made it clear Tomori was above the German in the pecking order — the England international has featured in three of the first five games this season — a bid to find a solution has been pursued. Just like with Lampard’s request to buy new goalkeeper Edouard Mendy — despite the presence of £71.6 million Kepa Arrizabalaga, still the most expensive signing ever at the position — his decision is being backed.

Chelsea have considered all possibilities. Even though they regard Rudiger as one of the best defenders in Europe, they have talked about selling him. Yet that is not looking likely in this market.

A loan is appealing. But with less than two years left on his contract, Chelsea would like the former Stuttgart defender to sign an extension first, to protect his market value. It should be stressed though that doing so isn’t a strict condition — he could leave for the rest of the season anyway without doing so.

One would have to think it might be hard to convince Rudiger to agree fresh terms when he is not part of Lampard’s plans. On the other hand, situations always change in football, and ostracised players do come in from the cold. He also has the knowledge that there are people at the top of the club who still appreciate him.

Tomori may still be a little bit anxious about where he stands, too. Until the three recent outings, he had played on just three occasions under Lampard in 2020. New signing Thiago Silva is surely going to feature regularly now he is fully fit, so that leaves the 22-year-old competing with Kurt Zouma and Andreas Christensen, plus Rudiger should he stick around, for one place in the team. But the chances of going to Everton look over because they are on the verge of acquiring fellow centre-back Ben Godfrey from Norwich City.

So how has Rudiger, who has won the FA Cup and Europa League with Chelsea since arriving three years ago, handled all of this? After all, while it wasn’t decisive, he played a part in convincing countrymen Timo Werner and Kai Havertz to join Lampard’s squad this summer and must have thought he would be in the first XI with them.

It is thought he has remained calm about the situation. Perhaps the reality of being demoted in such a fashion has not quite sunk in. Rudiger is a strong character and a big personality in the dressing room, but is said to be highly professional and unlikely to cause a disruption.

A resolution one way or the other is not expected until Monday.

Chelsea have provided a lot of drama in the window this year, but what happens with Rudiger may be one of the most intriguing sub-plots in what has been a fraught start to Lampard’s second season in charge.

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

I find it incredibly difficult to believe Jorginho may head to Arsenal on loan or whatever, CHO may leave on loan and replacements for both will be signed.  Not happening lol

 

We have 24-48 hrs left.  CHO will probably stay although i think a loan would do him good, and i like Jorginho so would keep him

 

Only players id let go from the first team picture before 11pm Monday are RLC loan, Alonso loan or perm, Rudiger loan or perm (like him though).   And revisit it in January

 

Seen talk of Thomas Partey which just seems a lazy link, although good player.  

[Artandur 939]

Too bad no obligation, but 4.5m loan fee is a pretty good deal

[Blues Forever 1,232]

  On 04/10/2020 at 08:48, Artandur said:

Too bad no obligation, but 4.5m loan fee is a pretty good deal

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Should've snapped Milan latest offer.