Chelsea Transfers

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

21 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Shame shit happened with Dembele and the rest is history. Dortmund will always be a selling club.

Well yeah but they sold Dembele in the summer. They won't sell Sancho in January unless someone pay them lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

[LAM09 6,777]

Well yeah but they sold Dembele in the summer. They won't sell Sancho in January unless someone pay them lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

I know there's a city that consist of EPL teams which would happily oblige.

 

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Borussia Dortmund chief deals blow to Chelsea and Man United amid Jadon Sancho transfer verdict

Chelsea and Manchester United have both been linked with a swoop for Borussia Dortmund's England international Jadon Sancho in 2020

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/transfer-news/jadon-sancho-chelsea-transfer-verdict-17381665

[Strike 7,250]

I hope results improve in the next few weeks and we don't panic buy the likes of Zaha, Ake etc who maybe available. Wait for the summer to spend 

[1905didierblue 748]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

I hope results improve in the next few weeks and we don't panic buy the likes of Zaha, Ake etc who maybe available. Wait for the summer to spend 

I dont we can call AKE a panic buy. He is a brilliant player who if we can offload Andreas and get him, it would be a perfect replacement. Him and Rudi would form a good partnership

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Think we might sign a LB in January. Lampard seems desperate for one. Doesn't trust Alonso and Emerson, forced to play Azpi in that position. Go put 80-90 million on the table for Chilwell and see what Leicester say!

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3 hours ago, Jason said:

Think we might sign a LB in January. Lampard seems desperate for one. Doesn't trust Alonso and Emerson, forced to play Azpi in that position. Go put 80-90 million on the table for Chilwell and see what Leicester say!

they will tell us to piss off as they can get damn near the same price in summer (when they can grab a replacement) and they are trying for the title (they are now the only team who can stop Victimpool, and although that is doubtful, surely they want a top 3 or top 2 finish)

Gaya has a 100m euro (£84m atm as the pound is surging v the euro) release clause but I do not rate him worth THAT much

Grimaldo has a much lower RC, 60m euros (£50m)

Alex Telles is by far the most doable in January, as I think his RC is still only 40m euros (£33.5m) and his contract runs out in 18 months, so Porto will probably want to deal

surely we can also sell either Alonso (much preferred to sell him now) or Emerson (Juve want him badly) now as well to cover some (most if Telles?) of the cost

then sell the other in summer and (IF it is Telles we buy) buy Chilwell

 

atm, I do not rate Maatsen, as he is far too small (the bloke is only 1.68m) and will get bullied at EPL level

if we really want to find out more right now if he can play LB for us down the road, then start him in a game (FA Cup v Forest or even better (in terms of seeing him against EPL comp) v SOTON or Bournemouth, although those two game up the risk level of continuing our disastrous very late autumn (winter starts Dec 22) mini-run we are in)

 

my ideal back 4 players on the squad after summer window closes (obviously most of these save for Telles and maybe, MAYBE Romagnoli) cannot be done in January)

CB Romagnoli or Skriniar

'CB Rudiger

CB Ake

CB Tomori

CB Guehi

LB Chilwell

LB Telles (provided we buy him now, otherwise I guess just roll with Emerson as backup)

RB Reece

RB Timothy Castagne (tall (1.85m) pacy Belgian RB on Atalanta, just turned 24 three days ago, or Nordi Mukiele, even taller (same height as Alonso) 22yo on RB Leipzig who was just  on the Bundesliga TOTM and who I have mentioned before)

 

SELL (now or in the summer)

Zouma (sorry, I am now perma-back to him not being Chels quality, which I never should have allowed my mind to be changed on), AC (GTFO), Alonso (GTFO), Emerson (unless we do not buy Telles now), Azpi (it is sell him now or in summer (summer being far more likely I suppose due to tough pulls in January) or resign ourselves to getting shit or zero for him and having him continue to drag us down when he plays most of the time, ESPECIALLY at the suicidally stupid LB spot)

I am absolutely DONE with all of them, save for Emerson in a backup role, but a Telles buy NOW (January) would mandate he be sold in the summer as well IF we want to grab Chilwell in the summer

 

 

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15 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Think if Ake’s injury isn’t serious he’s coming back here

just grabbing him is not good enough

both Zouma and AC simply have to go

and Ake is NOT (I do rate him coming back to replace AC as that is close to a wash money-wise IF Barca still want to buy AC) the truly WC CB we desperately need as well

the 6 main targets in my book (some are basically impossible I do admit)

Romagnoli/Skriniar/Konate/José Giménez/Raphaël Varane/Marquinhos

 

Rúben Dias had his release clause raised to 88m euros (around £75m atm as the pound has gained on the euro since the £80m figure was mooted) which is just too fucking high a cost IMHO for a player who has only played in shite Liga NOS

[killer1257 3,282]

Think we might sign a LB in January. Lampard seems desperate for one. Doesn't trust Alonso and Emerson, forced to play Azpi in that position. Go put 80-90 million on the table for Chilwell and see what Leicester say!

90 mio. for Chillwell ?
Is he Ashley Cole 2.0?

He only plays Azpi on the left because James needs game time like he stated in Interviews. And due to the fact that Azpi is our Captain, he has to play somewhere and that is LB in Lamps mind.

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[Tomo 21,733]

Could it be worth taking advantage of the Napoli shambles and trying to nab Koulibaly?

Initially I thought doing that was a bit to short term for the process we're undertaking but after yesterday I'm wondering if we should. We can still get minimum two and a half years out of him which is a long time in football.

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30 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

90 mio. for Chillwell ?
Is he Ashley Cole 2.0?

He only plays Azpi on the left because James needs game time like he stated in Interviews. And due to the fact that Azpi is our Captain, he has to play somewhere and that is LB in Lamps mind.

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The captain part is just your opinion. Lampard has played James at RB and Emerson/Alonso at LB and left Azpi on the bench before. Was anything said then? But unfortunately, Emerson/Alonso has proven to be unreliable, thus forcing Lampard's hands. If one of those 2 has been more reliable, I'm sure Lampard wouldn't be playing Azpi at LB or at all. 

As for the price for Chilwell, said it previously, 50-100 million is the new 30-50 million. It's the norm these days to be paying that kind of money. 

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9 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Could it be worth taking advantage of the Napoli shambles and trying to nab Koulibaly?

Initially I thought doing that was a bit to short term for the process we're undertaking but after yesterday I'm wondering if we should. We can still get minimum two and a half years out of him which is a long time in football.

Speaking of Napoli, it's a shame that Mertens is already over 30 years old. Was just thinking the other day that he would be good signing...until I double checked his age. 

[OneMoSalah 8,783]

4 hours ago, 1905didierblue said:

I dont we can call AKE a panic buy. He is a brilliant player who if we can offload Andreas and get him, it would be a perfect replacement. Him and Rudi would form a good partnership

Brilliant? Honestly? Based off what? Hes decent but hasnt really had such an effect at Bournemouth that theyve tightened their back line up, their defensive record despite spending big money for a club their size of CBs and LBs is very poor. Ake is solid enough but he is not an improvement on anyone we have, thats the harsh reality. For 40m we are better keeping who we have in my eyes. He wouldnt get a game at United, City , Liverpool or Spurs.

[Superblue 6,372]

We definitely need a couple of additions, but I would keep Azpi and not try to sell him.

He wouldn't command a sizeable transfer fee anymore and his versatility is great to have because it stops us needing to buy squad players. It's easy to forget after yesterday's game that he kept Sterling largely anonymous a couple of weeks ago and then switched sides effortlessly in game and kept a rampaging Mahrez at bay so there are still circumstances where having a more defensive minded full back can come in handy.

In a time when we are seemingly getting younger too and likely a couple more of the experienced players like Alonso, Pedro and Giroud are being shown the door, it's important to still have some of these players at the club, even if they might not be playing every week. Think Terry in Conte's first season and Cahill last year. It's not just on the pitch but you need a calm experienced head at times in the dressing room, and someone who very likely would help set the tone in training of working hard. He's also one of the few last links we have of those with experience winning the big trophies and "getting over the line". You don't want to completely lose that before we can get back challenging again because it's difficult and can take years to get back - just ask United, Arsenal, etc.

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1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said:

Brilliant? Honestly? Based off what? Hes decent but hasnt really had such an effect at Bournemouth that theyve tightened their back line up, their defensive record despite spending big money for a club their size of CBs and LBs is very poor. Ake is solid enough but he is not an improvement on anyone we have, thats the harsh reality. For 40m we are better keeping who we have in my eyes. He wouldnt get a game at United, City , Liverpool or Spurs.

he would be an upgrade over AC and Zouma (who both need to to GO in the summer or even this January (one of them) IF we can bring in Romagnoli)

no problem with him (Ake) coming in, but we still need to buy a truly world class CB, simply swapping him for either Zouma or AC is asking for a further nightmare (albeit maybe a wee bit less of one), even with a healthy Rudiger

[Blue Armour 4,311]

New left back, and new backup striker.

Backup CB as well, depending on Rudigers form

Even if Rudiger comes good this season, I would still like a WC CB, but that's not something we would get in a January window I think

[Superblue 6,372]

23 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Could it be worth taking advantage of the Napoli shambles and trying to nab Koulibaly?

Initially I thought doing that was a bit to short term for the process we're undertaking but after yesterday I'm wondering if we should. We can still get minimum two and a half years out of him which is a long time in football.

Really depends on the price, anything near what they've wanted in the past I don't think is worth it. Realistically it would need to be January or never because he'll be 29 in the summer and would be a risk if it took him time to adapt to the league.

I don't really watch much Italian football, but from what I've seen he doesn't look the player he was 2-3 years ago which would worry me a little. 

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8 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

We definitely need a couple of additions, but I would keep Azpi and not try to sell him.

He wouldn't command a sizeable transfer fee anymore and his versatility is great to have because it stops us needing to buy squad players. It's easy to forget after yesterday's game that he kept Sterling largely anonymous a couple of weeks ago and then switched sides effortlessly in game and kept a rampaging Mahrez at bay so there are still circumstances where having a more defensive minded full back can come in handy.

In a time when we are seemingly getting younger too and likely a couple more of the experienced players like Alonso, Pedro and Giroud are being shown the door, it's important to still have some of these players at the club, even if they might not be playing every week. Think Terry in Conte's first season and Cahill last year. It's not just on the pitch but you need a calm experienced head at times in the dressing room, and someone who very likely would help set the tone in training of working hard. He's also one of the few last links we have of those with experience winning the big trophies and "getting over the line". You don't want to completely lose that before we can get back challenging again because it's difficult and can take years to get back - just ask United, Arsenal, etc.

You shouldn't be saying that. It doesn't fit the narrative!