Chelsea Transfers

[lucio 5,418]

8 minutes ago, whats happening said:

man, if we sell gallagher to fucking tottenham i will be so mad.

Who cares about losing him ? 3 goals in over 70 games and terrible technique. Take the cash and move forward with more talented players 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

2 hours ago, Vegetable said:

Yeah, except the tiny detail most of those youngsters are grossly overpaid from the start, what complicates this plan a bit. Also, they fail to impress much, what complicates things even further. So who would those youngsters should be sold to to gain anything from the transaction (overinflated fee + salary invested + agents etc.)?

Another Clearlake's entity is the only idea that comes to my mind, as Arsenal ended the phase when they apparently lost their sanity and mainly it's us who are mugged on transfer market, not the other way around.

Precisely. We are doing the exact opposite of what bvb do. They buy little known players cheap or promote from their youth and sell them after they increased their market value by integrating them in a functioning unit with experienced mentors and a clear football identity that allows them to shine

on the other hand, we buy flavour of the month hype boys at the all-time peak of their career valuation and tank their market value by aimlessly cramming them in a dysfunctional pool of other such nine-day wonders within a club in disarray and no existing identity whatsoever 

[LAM09 7,043]

1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

Precisely. We are doing the exact opposite of what bvb do. They buy little known players cheap or promote from their youth and sell them after they increased their market value by integrating them in a functioning unit with experienced mentors and a clear football identity that allows them to shine

on the other hand, we buy flavour of the month hype boys at the all-time peak of their career valuation and tank their market value by aimlessly cramming them in a dysfunctional pool of other such nine-day wonders within a club in disarray and no existing identity whatsoever 

I wouldn't call Haaland "a little-known player." Players know they can use them as a stepping stop, which generally works for both parties. The situation here is completely different.

[Reddish-Blue 2,495]

4 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

Precisely. We are doing the exact opposite of what bvb do. They buy little known players cheap or promote from their youth and sell them after they increased their market value by integrating them in a functioning unit with experienced mentors and a clear football identity that allows them to shine

on the other hand, we buy flavour of the month hype boys at the all-time peak of their career valuation and tank their market value by aimlessly cramming them in a dysfunctional pool of other such nine-day wonders within a club in disarray and no existing identity whatsoever 

They are also a stepping stone club and players know that going to Dortmund and doing relatively well should lead to a bigger transfer and bigger payday down the line.  Between Sancho, Haaland and Bellingham, they were all well known talents before going to Dortmund, not like they were found in a random Ligue 1 or Brazilian club. 

 

[Blue Armour 4,436]

8 hours ago, Vegetable said:

Yeah, except the tiny detail most of those youngsters are grossly overpaid from the start, what complicates this plan a bit. Also, they fail to impress much, what complicates things even further. So who would those youngsters should be sold to to gain anything from the transaction (overinflated fee + salary invested + agents etc.)?

Another Clearlake's entity is the only idea that comes to my mind, as Arsenal ended the phase when they apparently lost their sanity and mainly it's us who are mugged on transfer market, not the other way around.

They're turning Chelsea into another post-2004 Wenger era Arsenal.

The only difference like you said, is that Chelsea is overpaying like crazy to acquire all this youth talent.

[Vesper 30,119]

15 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

Precisely. We are doing the exact opposite of what bvb do. They buy little known players cheap or promote from their youth and sell them after they increased their market value by integrating them in a functioning unit with experienced mentors and a clear football identity that allows them to shine

disagree for the most part

 

Borussia Dortmund inbound transfers year by year:

 

no little known buys (Nmecha was already a star at Wolfsburg, 9 total goals produced in only 1800 league minutes as a CMF/AMF/DMF, and he turned 23 right after Dortmund bought him, so hardly some teen youth)

 

no little known actual 'money paid' buys other than the then-16yo (he turns 18yo in early May this season) Julien Duranville (who I had posted on before they bought him)

 

no little known buys

 

no little known buys

 

no little known buys (all knew who Håland was, he was insane at RB Salzburg already, in the first half of 2019/20, he scored 28 goals and had 7 assists for them, 35 total goals produced in only 22 games. 9 of them were in the CL against Pool, Genk, and Napoli)

 

no little known actual 'money paid' buys other than Leonardo Balerdi, who they sold at a loss to Marseille 2 and half years later (after loaning him there)

 

[DDA 9,929]

Brighton have completed the signing of Valentin Barco.

Looks a really technical LB. Will probably end up buying him for 100m in a few years.

[TheHulk 2,425]

23 minutes ago, DDA said:

Brighton have completed the signing of Valentin Barco.

Looks a really technical LB. Will probably end up buying him for 100m in a few years.

Normal, our owners are Brightonsexuals.

[bluesman2610 1,417]

I don't understand our board fascination with Brighton players. If you want their players so badly get the guys who identify them before they go there. If we wanted Barco which I know I saw some stuff a few weeks back about it we should have purchased him. However their are LB who could do a hell of a job and are a lot more durable than who we have there now.  Ito from Stuttgart being one or even Melvin Bard from Nice.

[NikkiCFC 8,300]

We paid already 200m for Sanchez, Caicedo and Cucurella. Plus Potter fee. 

Now this guy and Ferguson it would be half a billion. 

How much is FC Brighton?

[DDA 9,929]

Surely it would be cheaper to just buy Brighton as part of our multi club model?

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

18 minutes ago, DDA said:

Surely it would be cheaper to just buy Brighton as part of our multi club model?

I don’t think it’s allowed to own two teams in the same league. 

[DDA 9,929]

49 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

I don’t think it’s allowed to own two teams in the same league. 

Just as well. I wouldn't out it past our owners if we could.

[Vesper 30,119]

On 19/01/2024 at 22:00, lucio said:

Who cares about losing him ? 3 goals in over 70 games and terrible technique. Take the cash and move forward with more talented players 

Gallagher is the only player in Europe's big five leagues this season with 20 or more shots, chances created, dribbles completed, touches in the opposition box, duels won, tackles and interceptions.

[Thor 2,693]

19 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Gallagher is the only player in Europe's big five leagues this season with 20 or more shots, chances created, dribbles completed, touches in the opposition box, duels won, tackles and interceptions.

All that and no end production. 

Conor has been a lot better than last season, and I think he has caught a lot of us off guard. Saying that though, my mates who are fans of other teams have not been impressed by him. I remember a game where a lot of people here thought he was our best player, the Newcastle game we won I believe - and my mate a Newcastle fan came away saying Conor was horrid. 

The more I sit down and watch, you realise how he doesn't have the necessary skills to be playing where he is. He is an energy machine who drifts out of position, gets in areas he isn't helpful and gets a lot of touches that look good on paper. He really should be playing as a backup to Caicedo.