Chelsea Transfers

[Vesper 30,150]

33 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Titles? Nah they probably just have financial domination fetish 

in the Dodgers case they are deffo chasing titles

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

in the Dodgers case they are deffo chasing titles

I was obviously kidding. I don’t doubt they are successful franchise owners in US sports. But they are out of their depth in football and still think throwing money at average 20 yos will solve their problems here. It does not matter. Unless we start acquiring  actual proven quality we will decline further as a club 

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1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

I was obviously kidding. I don’t doubt they are successful franchise owners in US sports. But they are out of their depth in football and still think throwing money at average 20 yos will solve their problems here. It does not matter. Unless we start acquiring  actual proven quality we will decline further as a club 

oh, I agree

[ZAPHOD2319 4,814]

3 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

I was obviously kidding. I don’t doubt they are successful franchise owners in US sports. But they are out of their depth in football and still think throwing money at average 20 yos will solve their problems here. It does not matter. Unless we start acquiring  actual proven quality we will decline further as a club 

One of the worst things these guys can experience is success in a risky plan. They hit lightening after buying the Dodgers in going out and buying the best young kids that delivered in a few years. They still think it will come good at Chelsea. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,380]

We need a LB. 

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49 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

We need a LB. 

    
Nuno Mendes
Alphonso Davies

Theo Hernández
Federico Dimarco 

José Gayà  

Rayan Aït-Nouri 
Quilindschy Hartman   
Milos Kerkez
Miguel Gutiérrez   
Borna Sosa   
 

[chelsea_4_eva 1,182]

Remember the days when we bought Fabregas and Diego Costa because they were good and not because they're prospects... I miss those days...

[Blue Armour 4,438]

2 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

One of the worst things these guys can experience is success in a risky plan. They hit lightening after buying the Dodgers in going out and buying the best young kids that delivered in a few years. They still think it will come good at Chelsea. 

Probably works better in baseball, because with a better pitcher and better hitter playing on the field, your team can simply outplay the opposition all day long.

Doesn't work that way in football which requires far more team chemistry and tactical know-how. The players individual stats won't count as much here.

Again, because of their arrogance, they thought they knew better and proceeded to chop/change too quickly.

Edited December 11, 2023 by Blue Armour

[TheHulk 2,429]

1 hour ago, chelsea_4_eva said:

Remember the days when we bought Fabregas and Diego Costa because they were good and not because they're prospects... I miss those days...

No problem with bringing prospects but least bring top prospects. Who the fuck approved to sign guys like Noni and Mudryk.

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13 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

The owners deserved the criticism they have received for the recruitment so far. But I have to give them credit, they are not shy about signing checks to go after who they want. Biggest overall signing in sports history for the Dodgers. How many owners would pull the trigger on that deal? There is no way that says chasing profit: That is chasing titles.

 

 

Yep, I don't think there's anything to doubt the intention of the owners. But their data models have thrown up some terrible players. 

Linked us with moves for Raphinha, Kimpembe, Edson Alvarez and led us to players like Noni, Mudryk, Jackson and Disasi. Of all the players their data has linked us to I can only think of Cole Palmer and Gordon at Newcastle who have been good in the last 12 months.

[Thor 2,693]

5 hours ago, Strike said:

Yep, I don't think there's anything to doubt the intention of the owners. But their data models have thrown up some terrible players. 

Linked us with moves for Raphinha, Kimpembe, Edson Alvarez and led us to players like Noni, Mudryk, Jackson and Disasi. Of all the players their data has linked us to I can only think of Cole Palmer and Gordon at Newcastle who have been good in the last 12 months.

No one wanted Gordon. No one wanted to keep Jorgi. No one wanted Lukaku. 

 

But now we act like they are playing awesome and the board made a mistake. Reality is - the starters we have out there are mostly players that people here wanted. 

I can go back now to the threads saying "finally a proper number 9 who fights hard" for Jackson.

 

Fans have wanted a model of consistent football style, youth promotion, and a semblance of growth within the club - and now that an ownership team is trying to do it, and hasn't turned it around in a year - everyone is saying buy more, buy better, change it up, we just need to win. Why can't anyone let things marinate? 

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1 hour ago, Thor said:

No one wanted Gordon. No one wanted to keep Jorgi. No one wanted Lukaku. 

 

But now we act like they are playing awesome and the board made a mistake. Reality is - the starters we have out there are mostly players that people here wanted. 

I can go back now to the threads saying "finally a proper number 9 who fights hard" for Jackson.

 

Fans have wanted a model of consistent football style, youth promotion, and a semblance of growth within the club - and now that an ownership team is trying to do it, and hasn't turned it around in a year - everyone is saying buy more, buy better, change it up, we just need to win. Why can't anyone let things marinate? 

I think the 22 summer and 23 January window signings barring Enzo and Badiashile were disasters.

Signings in the summer of 23 were better and managed to greatly reduce the wage bill but we still need serious quality attackers.

Part of the reason why I had faith in Jackson, Disasi was I thought that the board have hired the best possible football people now and so they'll at least not get things spectacularly wrong. I am not too sure anymore. That trust is gone

 

[Special Juan 28,141]

Players like Jackson are just complete stop gaps, waste of time even buying them. They have a heart the size of a pea and don't have the mentality of say a Harry Kane to change clubs, and countries and go and completely smash it like he has done. Jackson won't score another ten goals this season but 1, he is just woeful and 2, he should be playing for a Bournemouth.

[Reddish-Blue 2,501]

2 hours ago, Thor said:

No one wanted Gordon. No one wanted to keep Jorgi. No one wanted Lukaku. 

 

But now we act like they are playing awesome and the board made a mistake. Reality is - the starters we have out there are mostly players that people here wanted. 

I can go back now to the threads saying "finally a proper number 9 who fights hard" for Jackson.

 

Fans have wanted a model of consistent football style, youth promotion, and a semblance of growth within the club - and now that an ownership team is trying to do it, and hasn't turned it around in a year - everyone is saying buy more, buy better, change it up, we just need to win. Why can't anyone let things marinate? 

Why would anyone "let things marinate"?   We are trending downwards, already at 12th spot and who knows where we will finish at the end of the season. 

The problem isn't youth promotion, it's the fact that we can't consistently score against decent opposition (who know how to drop deep and make it hard for us). 

I see other teams with youngsters in their lineup and they are not afraid to take the game to the opposition, we seem more interested in recycling possession than trying to attack the opposition with the talent we have at our disposal. 

[Costa19 858]

1 hour ago, Special Juan said:

Players like Jackson are just complete stop gaps, waste of time even buying them. They have a heart the size of a pea and don't have the mentality of say a Harry Kane to change clubs, and countries and go and completely smash it like he has done. Jackson won't score another ten goals this season but 1, he is just woeful and 2, he should be playing for a Bournemouth.

Come on.. We are absolute shite, most of our players are playing shit and our manager is a horse shit but you have to be fair when you criticize.
Jackson is young and in very bad form but he actually has elite potential. 
His movement with the ball, technique and speed is there though not for the moment since the whole club and all players are a mess.

I just dont understand why we keep playing like we do?
We have incredible pace and counter-attack potential in the team but we insist on hugging the ball, passing around and do jack fucking shit with it since we lack the player-types to play this kind of football, at the moment. 

We should fall back with the whole team 10-20 meters and invite the opponents to have more ball and to go higher up with their players. 
Mudryk, Jackson, Palmer, Sterling etc. would thrive if we played proper and well thought out counter-attacking football.

Edited December 11, 2023 by Costa19