robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 7 minutes ago, whats happening said: offering sensible salaries is all good, but not when we are trying to buy one of the best strikers in europe and probably the best one whos avaliable and wants to join. offering him lower wages than he already has is madness. everyone is here bitchin about buying 16yo brazilians and once we are trying to buy a player in his prime you think we can give him the same low contract as for those young unproven kids? thats not how it works in the real world. no its fine if they dont want to give massive salaries anymore. but then dont go after players in their prime who have a certain status. this guy allegedly had a 20-30-40 milliom monthly wage offered to him and now you all expect that its normal to give him numerous times less than that? While I agree with you that if the club has conviction about a top player, they should offer wages compatible with his ambition, or we just accept we are no longer an elite club. However, I see the first part as almost completely separated from the top player talk. You have to do both. Yes, the potential signing feels overdone by the new owners, and it seems to be already backfiring a bit with Washington and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,108 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, Mhsc said: At any rate, as far as we can see at the moment the blocker is more Napoli than our negotiation with VO. absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,108 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 4 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said: We will end up with 0 players today. I think Sancho goes through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Just now, Vesper said: I think Sancho goes through Thats like ending up with 0 players 💀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mhsc said: The clubs approach has worked pretty well so far, sure Michael Olise picked another option but that was not just based on wages, also guaranteed titles and CL football, biggest team in Germany etc. Didn't stop Felix or others signing and taking pay cuts. Sancho going to do the same. Club has reduced wage bill drastically and has a clear philosophy on wages that nearly all players buy into, only those with a weak mentality (don't back themselves to deliver) or want to join purely for money object to it. At any rate, as far as we can see at the moment the blocker is more Napoli than our negotiation with VO. Has it though? what's the measure? Silverware? Top4 qualification? I heard the same about last season's squad, and yet the same owners have been pretty much changing everything once again. So, which one is it? Was last season the right approach or this is? Edited August 30, 2024 by robsblubot Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,584 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 (edited) Players can still earn big money with us,just no longer by just signing the contract and coasting. Edited August 30, 2024 by Duppy Conqueror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,146 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 1 minute ago, robsblubot said: Is it though? what's the measure? Silverware? Top4 qualification? I heard the same about last season's squad, and yet the same owners have been pretty much changing everything once again. So, which one is it? Was last season the right approach or this is? In terms purely of the ability to sign the players they want to sign, I meant. Very few players have turned their nose up to us (which has surprised us all a bit, I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Meanwhile Disasi still shitting up this place. OneMoSalah, Vesper and mkh 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 What a dead deadline day this is for the entire league. Nobody is really doing anything, not just us. Which I suppose is what you want if you’re a well run club. But it’s still boring as hell. All this buildup and then nothing. As of this moment I’m more annoyed at the players that are set to stay than missing out on Osimhen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Big chance Sterling can end up as a Chelsea legend when he misses an open goal in last match of the season and Arsenal lose the title. ZAPHOD2319, Vesper and Costa19 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 17 minutes ago, whats happening said: its fine if they dont want to give massive salaries anymore. but then dont go after players in their prime who have a certain status. this guy allegedly had a 20-30-40 milliom monthly wage offered to him and now you all expect that its normal to give him numerous times less than that? Take upon consideration that his current wages were accepted with the idea for him to shut up and sign the extension, then ship him out for big money asap, so wages will be somebody else problem, but it didn't quite work out, hence the alleged fury in Napoli's camp. Personally I don't see a problem here, you want boatload of money, go play with Saudis, playing for Chelsea should be an attraction in itself, not only for financial reasons. Madrid nor PSG also do not compete with Saudi wages. I'm actually quite happy the club cut the bs with selling clubs pricing every player we want to buy like prime M'bappe, with according wages. If ture, VO was offered what was reasonable within Chelsea wage structure and clubs valuation of his person, I don't think it was offensive offer whatsoever, given he was perhaps offered performance bonuses on top of it, so it was either rot in Napoli reserves, go to Saudi sandbox or play for big club and if you perform, it means 20 or so per cent cut from unrealisticaly inflated wages. No other club is interested in him, so apparently he isn't quite the most wanted commodity, hence no need for bidding war with ourselves (done it enough times under Clearlake already) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,954 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Trev is basically the best possible replacement for Andersen Palace could’ve hoped for. No buy option gives us the chance to bring him back and sell some of the current lot if he kills it at Palace. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Mhsc said: In terms purely of the ability to sign the players they want to sign, I meant. Very few players have turned their nose up to us (which has surprised us all a bit, I think) Sure, but @whats happening point alluded to an inability to attract players given the wage structure. The wage structure seems to fit aspiring players, but not established elite footballers. You can say Brighton has a good track record of signing the players they want, but that only makes them less competitive against others who can sign better players. City has a very different approach here: they sign the best player for their system and offer high wages for these specific players. I remain cautiously optimistic for this season; it's still a much improved squad with much better options in most positions. Our bench last season was a fucking joke to be honest here. Though his point remains valid: it's been a while since we last signed a top player, and their track record around that seems poor. Perhaps that led to a lack of conviction on that type of signing... hard to say. Edited August 30, 2024 by robsblubot IMissEden and Mhsc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Yeah, too late for VO I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 31,108 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 so hope we sell the dregs cannot be arsed over Osi and Sancho raging about CBs and GK xPetrCechx, Costa19 and Mhsc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,104 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Pizy said: Trev is basically the best possible replacement for Andersen Palace could’ve hoped for. No buy option gives us the chance to bring him back and sell some of the current lot if he kills it at Palace. Wont happen. His career is as good as over here although he should be involved in the squad instead of Disasi & that sunday league footballer Tosin 100%. The club will sell him off next summer for profit. Just not happened this window because nobody has stumped up the fee they wanted. Plus in the slim chance it did happen to take him back, I kind of hope he tells them to ram it after not taking him on the US tour and banishing him from first facilities, he deserved much better than that. No way to treat an academy graduate. No surprise now the PFA are looking at abolishing clubs bombing first team players to make them move now also. Get it for 2 or 3 guys but 10-15 players… another masterclass from Clearlake 👍 Edited August 30, 2024 by OneMoSalah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted August 30, 2024 Share Posted August 30, 2024 Just now, Vesper said: so hope we sell the dregs cannot be arsed over Osi and Sancho raging about CBs and GK Think you should stop raging about the CB’s until we’ve seen a couple more PL matches. If the Colwill + Fofana duo struggle against this relatively easy opening set of PL fixtures then rage away. But I’m holding off on the anger for the time being on that position. Keeper, though… 😬😬😬 The situation we’re in there is inexcusable. I pray that Mike Penders saves us next summer lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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