mkh 760 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Will there be quiet mistakes in commitments with players from Washington, Ugochukwu, Angelo, Moreira, Datro Fofana, Casadei, Disasi, Sturge, Matos. Admitted....🤔🫡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 6 minutes ago, Vegetable said: Club is desperate to sell Gallagher and will do it for 10% of his worth and happily pay twice the asking price for player with no place in the team, that's what will happen I guess. Who cares the whole "pRoFiT oN bOoKs" argument kinda falls down if he is gone for penauts. Funny to think Marina had no real businness background yet managed to be way more effective, than business people of gigantic investment fund. Venture capitalists like Clearlake always spray and pray. It is the way they operate and will argue that the policy over the long term will pay dividends. For instance they will point to how they got Jackson, Gusto and Palmer out of it. The rest are just collateral damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,345 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 16 minutes ago, Vegetable said: Funny to think Marina had no real businness background yet managed to be way more effective, than business people of gigantic investment fund. If that was true clearlake wouldn't have had to go to the premier league or FA and show them the dodgy books in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,241 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 12 minutes ago, mkh said: Will there be quiet mistakes in commitments with players from Washington, Ugochukwu, Angelo, Moreira, Datro Fofana, Casadei, Disasi, Sturge, Matos. Admitted....🤔🫡 Ugochukwu and maybe Angelo. The rest are meh. mkh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,765 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 According to the Athletic Ogo maybe loaned or even sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 pathetic management, tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 4 minutes ago, King Kante said: Venture capitalists like Clearlake always spray and pray. It is the way they operate and will argue that the policy over the long term will pay dividends. For instance they will point to how they got Jackson, Gusto and Palmer out of it. The rest are just collateral damage. And that's something I have hard time to grasp (given football club isn't a startup you want to milk as much as possible and bankrupt in the end) - I understand Clearlake entered the football making overpaying their virtue, to show that they are no-nonsense partners for other clubs and to impress fans with effectiveness of getting high-profile signed without much fuss. But long term, this has to stop. We could easily do without like 60 or more % of players purchased in Clearlake reign and while I understand books is one thing and reality is other thing, isn't it easier to just not spend 100 million on trash in the frist place, than spending 100 million on a whim and then trying to balance the books with sales, despite our assets aren't worth anything near it, yet costed way more. Yeah, we are selling players, but it's hard for me to believe that wages included there is any profit on it. Income, yes, but the money is still burned. So like, in the end someone or something is losing the money and how long is it practically and legally possible to sustain the club, putting new 100 or more million into it? 5 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: If that was true clearlake wouldn't have had to go to the premier league or FA and show them the dodgy books in the first place. Do you believe any books on pro level are clear? Football, athletics, racing, everything comes to how much can you bend the rules on highest level. I wouldn't be surprised if they calculated that cooperation and blaming previous owners and general idea the club was punished by forceful sale in the first place will give them fresh start and will they will get free or cheap pass given the situation. Yet they were either very naive or didn't took upon consideration that any chance to crack down on Chelsea will be used to no end. I won't believe russian oligarch did something, that Saudis or Chinese didn't on five times bigger scale. And I won't be surprised if it will come down to 1000 euro being given from Marina's pocket to 14 old from Vitesse B via his aunt, meanwhile City will be cleared of any wrongdoing, like they once were already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 14 minutes ago, Vegetable said: And that's something I have hard time to grasp (given football club isn't a startup you want to milk as much as possible and bankrupt in the end) - I understand Clearlake entered the football making overpaying their virtue, to show that they are no-nonsense partners for other clubs and to impress fans with effectiveness of getting high-profile signed without much fuss. But long term, this has to stop. We could easily do without like 60 or more % of players purchased in Clearlake reign and while I understand books is one thing and reality is other thing, isn't it easier to just not spend 100 million on trash in the frist place, than spending 100 million on a whim and then trying to balance the books with sales, despite our assets aren't worth anything near it, yet costed way more. Yeah, we are selling players, but it's hard for me to believe that wages included there is any profit on it. Income, yes, but the money is still burned. So like, in the end someone or something is losing the money and how long is it practically and legally possible to sustain the club, putting new 100 or more million into it? Do you believe any books on pro level are clear? Football, athletics, racing, everything comes to how much can you bend the rules on highest level. I wouldn't be surprised if they calculated that cooperation and blaming previous owners and general idea the club was punished by forceful sale in the first place will give them fresh start and will they will get free or cheap pass given the situation. Yet they were either very naive or didn't took upon consideration that any chance to crack down on Chelsea will be used to no end. I won't believe russian oligarch did something, that Saudis or Chinese didn't on five times bigger scale. And I won't be surprised if it will come down to 1000 euro being given from Marina's pocket to 14 old from Vitesse B via his aunt, meanwhile City will be cleared of any wrongdoing, like they once were already. I personally don't like it either. However, the logic is probably that if we wouldn't ever be able to attract a Palmer after his break out season and the cost involved with that (if possible) means your better off 'spraying and praying' as you might get a couple of solid players out of it as well. As for the numbers, I reckon part of the problem currently is they've not sorted the multi-club part out properly, so currently Chelsea are getting lumbered with everyone rather than just the top prospects of their 'spray and pray' approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 760 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Important moments in the Lukaku & Osimhen talks. Napoli open to swap, Chelsea trying to bring down upfront costs on bid to balance out outlay for Osimhen wages . Lukaku wants Napoli and Osimhen wants Chelsea. via@FraserFletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Lets go mkh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,819 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Straight swap it. Lukaku is a 100 mil player. Our previous purchase price says so. Just say its two 100 mil players going both ways lol... Napoli's book problem solved. mkh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,765 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 I'm normally quite skeptical on transfer deals but I have got massive confidence this osimhen deal gets done, they have what we want and we have what they want. The desire of Lukaku to get out and our will to do the same, and on the flip side Osimhen's and Napoli's will to get him out is what will get this done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,792 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 A big thank you to Antonio Conte if this goes through. Still looking out for his old club 🙂 Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Don’t believe anything you see if it ain’t Ornstein at this point. Even Fabrizio has been super spotty this summer. Especially for a deal/player as big as Osimhen. Doubt anything significant has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,356 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Osimhens wages are insane for our current structure, it's one of the biggest bonuses of having these guys in, read on here that our average wage is 60k down from 200k, that's without getting rid of Rom, Chilly and Raheem (hopefully). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 In 1 year, Osimhen will have the same status as Lukaku. kexik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,647 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 (edited) Guy has no self awareness, genuinely thinks he is a complete striker, I really hope we can ship him off to Saudi if he fails otherwise it's Lukaku all over again. Edited August 15, 2024 by TheHulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,819 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Hot and cold on VO. He has something clearly - but it isn't that 100 mil type player something. I think we've struck gold with Jackson, and now we're going to take away time on the field for him to grow some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 760 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Osimhen's current weekly salary is £ 211,231 (basic) £ 42,180 (bonus) I don't think Chelsea will take him for less than 200k a week. It looks better for Joao Felix, who signed a new contract with Atletico Madrid on 13 January 2023 with a salary reduction of: £240,230 (base) To: Weekly 98,860 £ (base) 0 £ (bonus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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