Chelsea Transfers

[King Kante 1,643]

Hall for me is a squad player with a bit of experience who knows the managers system. I am not expecting a WC player from what I have seen of him in the past but he probably fits the category of 'handy to have around', especially with how injury prone our CM's are. 

Where this puts Santos, Lesley, Gallagher, Carney and Casedei is another matter. I am expecting two loans minimum and Gallagher to be sold with an outside chance Carney or Casedei get sold too. 

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12 hours ago, Pizy said:

If João Cancelo were a few years younger he’d probably be a good, cheap signing

On 7 August 2019, Cancelo signed for Premier League club Manchester City on a six-year contract worth £27.4 million plus Danilo being sent to Juventus in part-exchange, equalling to £60 million, making him the most expensive right back ever.

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12 hours ago, Beorn said:

It’s a tough league but the level is shit. I’d rather watch Sevilla and sociedad than plymouth and QPR. 

Chalk and cheese as you cherry-picked from La Liga with 2 really solid, european qualifying teams versus poor ones from the Championship.

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12 hours ago, Tomo said:

Some fans when we appointed Maresca "fuck sake yes he won the Championship but he did it with a PL team in waiting hardly an achievement".

Same fans when we sign best player in the same team "fuck sake why we signing Championship players?"

Indeed, it is sophistry, and not even skillful sophistry.

Wankistry?

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7 hours ago, Superblue said:

That makes sense. I think people sometimes forget just how big Bayern are. Arguably only second to Madrid in Europe.

I heard he also has a lederhosen fetish

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[bigbluewillie 1,930]

Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and West Ham are all interested in 22-year-old Italy defender Riccardo Calafiori but will have to pay in excess of £40m to prise him away from Bologna. (Express)

That’s cheap methinks.

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9 hours ago, TheHulk said:

 

So Golding's fee covers 5/6 of the first year's amortisation of the KDH transfer. If another youngster does well enough to earn a £5m move this time next year that will basically be two payments down and three to go on KDH.

As long as the outgoing kids are accepting these transfers for the right reasons, and are not players we should be retaining as likely or potential future first-teamers, I'm ok with this. I do wonder what Neil bath makes of it all however.

[DH1988 1,348]

40 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

So Golding's fee covers 5/6 of the first year's amortisation of the KDH transfer. If another youngster does well enough to earn a £5m move this time next year that will basically be two payments down and three to go on KDH.

As long as the outgoing kids are accepting these transfers for the right reasons, and are not players we should be retaining as likely or potential future first-teamers, I'm ok with this. I do wonder what Neil bath makes of it all however.

I don't think they are beyond recognising if someone is a talent ie. Josh A for example. At the end of the day we probably ended up losing the Goldings of the world for free, £500k compensation or tumbling down the leagues years gone by. Time will tell.

I think the real judgement will come when the Paez's and the Estevao's come in vs academy talent, another fork in the road.

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46 minutes ago, DH1988 said:

I think the real judgement will come when the Paez's and the Estevao's come in vs academy talent, another fork in the road.

What academy talent do we have that is close to the level of Paez and Estevao? 

I'm more interested in seeing what the club do with guys like Ugo, Santos, Casadei as there aren't many minutes available in midfield.  Maybe they get sold off just like Maatsen to help balance the books on PSR. 

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3 hours ago, TheHulk said:

 

That would be a very very nice signing.  I don't expect us to get Calafiori but we desperately need talent at CB.    Tosin isn't enough as there are still question marks over Disasi/Badiashile and even Colwill. 

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Can't keep buying up CBs every summer

2022- Koulibaly, Fofana

2023 - Badiashile, Disasi

All while having Colwill, Chalobah on the books. 

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19 minutes ago, Strike said:

Can't keep buying up CBs every summer

2022- Koulibaly, Fofana

2023 - Badiashile, Disasi

All while having Colwill, Chalobah on the books. 

I count one solid CB, 2 decent, 2 fairly poor, and one who never plays.
It also does not stop us from buying any promising youngster who casts a shadow, so why would CB be any different? We let Andreas go for no good reason eh.

[Pizy 18,952]

I guess I just don’t understand where Calafiori fits in the squad currently. He’s the level of CB in terms of both talent and money spent that should slot straight into your first XI. But we have Colwill there as well as Badiashile on the left. 

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2 hours ago, Pizy said:

I guess I just don’t understand where Calafiori fits in the squad currently. He’s the level of CB in terms of both talent and money spent that should slot straight into your first XI. But we have Colwill there as well as Badiashile on the left. 

Would think Calafiori is ahead of both of them at the moment. 

Colwill's injuries and lack of continuity last season didn't help his development as I expected him to kick on from his loan at Brighton. 

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3 hours ago, Strike said:

Can't keep buying up CBs every summer

2022- Koulibaly, Fofana

2023 - Badiashile, Disasi

All while having Colwill, Chalobah on the books. 

If Fofana was fit, we wouldn't be buying CB's.....and Chalobah's been linked to moves for the past few summers but no-one seems that interested. 

To think at one point, we had Rudiger/Christensen/Tomori and even Guehi was on the books (might have been on loan in Championship).  Fast forward 2-3 years, they are all gone and we have CB's who aren't really better than any of them.  

[Special Juan 28,143]

Caliafiori is a no brainer for the money being talked about

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13 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Would think Calafiori is ahead of both of them at the moment. 

Colwill's injuries and lack of continuity last season didn't help his development as I expected him to kick on from his loan at Brighton. 

And he’s never going to get that continuity and development if we buy someone around his age and level. 

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2 hours ago, Pizy said:

I guess I just don’t understand where Calafiori fits in the squad currently. He’s the level of CB in terms of both talent and money spent that should slot straight into your first XI. But we have Colwill there as well as Badiashile on the left. 

And Clearlake's told Bayern to back off from making an offer for Colwill, gave him a long contract. I think Calafiori will be overkill. 

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1 minute ago, Strike said:

And Clearlake's told Bayern to back off from making an offer for Colwill, gave him a long contract. I think Calafiori will be overkill. 

Exactly. We fought to keep him, adamantly rejected advances from not just Bayern but remember also Liverpool were sniffing around him. Plus Brighton wanting him back. We had to really convince him and reassure him of his prominent role or he otherwise would’ve asked to leave. To now go out and basically replace him with Calafiori would be detrimental to Levi’s development.

If Badiashile wasn’t here and we had just Colwill & Calafiori pushing each other that would be one thing. But 3 LCB’s is indeed overkill because one of them would never se the pitch.