Bluepower777 37 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 There's noone available and we can't spend that much money again. We must surely be in breach of FFP rules at the moment. We have to keep on trying with maybe a player in the championship or in the youth teams, I don't rate Jackson or Broja much but I dont want the club to spend a fortune either and waste more money . mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef 51 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Vesper and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Osimhen with a just ridiculous assist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,225 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Injuries are destroying European football there needs to be something drastic done too many fuckig games and the BOOTS are fucked Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,494 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 28 minutes ago, Vesper said: Injuries are destroying European football there needs to be something drastic done too many fuckig games and the BOOTS are fucked Nothing is being done a new month long tournament has been announced for June 2025. Club World Cup new format. It’s good money for the club but how will they convince players to play in the one summer where there’s no major tournament ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,494 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 18 hours ago, chef said: Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,337 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) Poch vs the board already: Edited December 18, 2023 by NikkiCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 That is not good, how they want to build a good relationship long term with manager when they are not listening to the input of manager. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,284 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 woud you sell gallagher to buy palhinha for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Fernando said: That is not good, how they want to build a good relationship long term with manager when they are not listening to the input of manager. It's really difficult to know, from the outside, how Poch and the club rate Gallagher. The manager will always praise his player when commenting transfer and whatnot, but what they think internally might be a completely different story. My personal stance regarding him remains the same: I'm not sure he's good enough at this level. Heard a joke from an old school manager (in Brazil) once which went like this, "a poor player who runs a lot and is always involved just means that the better player have less of the ball." Fernando and mkh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,337 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, robsblubot said: Heard a joke from an old school manager (in Brazil) once which went like this, "a poor player who runs a lot and is always involved just means that the better player have less of the ball." How come you didn't have that opinion about Mount? I see majority think they are similar players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, NikkiCFC said: How come you didn't have that opinion about Mount? I see majority think they are similar players. Different position. Mount wasn't, in my view, always involved in the game like Gallagher is. Simply because Gallagher plays in a central position. I also rate Mount much higher skill wise. He has quick feet, and can work in tight spaces, something Gallagher can't do--at least so far hasn't shown he can. Mount to me was akin to Oscar in some ways, but he also had more attacking output (as shown in numbers) in his good seasons. We can discuss where his form is going, which is definitely debatable, but I saw what I saw. Folks may not like the workhorse attacking player type, but I usually spot them in silverware photos. Fernando and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, robsblubot said: It's really difficult to know, from the outside, how Poch and the club rate Gallagher. The manager will always praise his player when commenting transfer and whatnot, but what they think internally might be a completely different story. My personal stance regarding him remains the same: I'm not sure he's good enough at this level. Heard a joke from an old school manager (in Brazil) once which went like this, "a poor player who runs a lot and is always involved just means that the better player have less of the ball." But actions speaks louder then word. Gallagher is almost always number 1. So I think that statement from him is very telling. And he might be a workhorse but that is what Mount was and when he did it we reap the rewards. So I don't mind someone like that especially being from the academy and that loves Chelsea....unless you tell me a team puts 100 million on the table, then I would sell. Edited December 18, 2023 by Fernando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, Fernando said: But actions speaks louder then word. Gallagher is almost always number 1. So I think that statement from him is very telling. And he might be a workhorse but that is what Mount was and when he did it we reap the rewards. So I don't mind someone like that especially being from the academy and that loves Chelsea....unless you tell me a team puts 100 million on the table, then I would sell. Yeah it's likely there is some truth to it. There is also a possibility of, "well, considering what I've got, Gallagher is key." So, it's all very relative. Had Kova and Kante been here and fit and Gallagher wouldn't see a whole lot of playtime, for ex. Yeah I don't see Gallagher as a throwaway player in any way. I can see why the mount comparisons, but it's akin to saying Caicedo is like Mount because he's a workhorse. I think a rounded winger with good skill *and* high work rate is a rarer player than a center mid like Gallagher, but that's just me. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 The way the FFP system is set up, it makes academy players pure FFP credits. They need to do something to fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said: How come you didn't have that opinion about Mount? I see majority think they are similar players. Mount is considerably better on the ball and way more of a goal threat , despite being not that great Blue Armour and robsblubot 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,337 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, robsblubot said: I think a rounded winger with good skill *and* high work rate is a rarer player than a center mid like Gallagher, but that's just me. Both are number 8. They've been played other positions a lot tho. ‘I’ve played midfield my whole life,’ said Mount. ‘I’ve varied between playing a bit more forward in a No.10 position but I always kind of see myself as a No.8. Edited December 18, 2023 by NikkiCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,337 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, lucio said: and way more of a goal threat Idk, Gallagher had season with 8 PL goals in Palace which is better than 3 of 4 Mount seasons here. And Mount played last 2 and a half seasons in Chelsea in front 3. I'm surprised with Gallagher lack of goals in Chelsea. Next week we celebrate one year since Mount last goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 32 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Both are number 8. They've been played other positions a lot tho. ‘I’ve played midfield my whole life,’ said Mount. ‘I’ve varied between playing a bit more forward in a No.10 position but I always kind of see myself as a No.8. Agree to disagree here: midfielder != center mid. 🤷♂️ Always saw him playing on the left wing myself... yes, he dropped back, which is the tactical thing I like about these players. I do see the value of having a workhorse winger in the mould of Oscar/Mount--even or esp as an option for certain games. Silverware seems to like that type of player as well. Whether the player sees himself as a n10, well all midfielders see themselves as a n10 who owns the midfield and the team. 😆We employed him in the right position and the right way: CL agrees. Edited December 18, 2023 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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