Vesper 30,276 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 CIES Football Observatory n°428 - 30/08/2023 Demography The hundred youngsters most ready for a top club https://football-observatory.com/WeeklyPost428 Issue number 428 of the CIES Football Observatory Weekly Post presents the 100 players born in 2002 or later who are not yet playing for a big-5 league club, but whose level of experience accumulated over the past year puts them in the best position to successfully take their careers to the next level. Born in 2003, "air-ground blocker" António Silva (SL Benfica) is the player best equipped to join a top club. His transfer value is estimated at €102.5 million by the CIES Football Observatory statistical model. The Portuguese is ahead of two players born in 2002, "ground-air blocker" Pablo Maia (São Paulo FC, €17.4m) and "shooter-creator" Georgiy Sudakov (Shakhtar Donetsk, €35.6m). Barcelona's new recruit Vitor Roque (Athletico Paranaense, €53.5m) is in fourth place, an impressive ranking for a player born in 2005. Arthur Vermeeren (Anverse, €10.2m) and Jorne Spileers (Bruges, €7.2m) are the only other footballers born in 2005 in the top 100, compared with ten born in 2004, the highest-ranked of whom is the Moroccan full international Bilal El Khannouss (KRC Genk, 14th, €20.6m). Exclusively developed by the CIES Football Observatory research team, the 100-based experience capital metric is particularly useful for scouts, as it enables them to rank players by considering both their playing time and the sporting level of matches played. This makes it easy to identify the talents whose recruitment offers the best guarantees of success. A paying platform with numerous statistical indicators has been developed to help professionals optimise their strategies. More information is available on request. Highest experience capital accumulated over the past year Player born in 2002 or after who are not yet playing for a big-5 league club (30/08/2023) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 36 minutes ago, Special Juan said: If Poch has given this the thumbs up then I'm all for it- Yes he's raw, but so is the likes of Mudryk, Noni, Chucky, Lesley, Lavia and others. We are creating something very exciting here, and I'm right behind this signing We are, but its a matter of when or if we will ever see it come to fruition. Massive gamble this. OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,109 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: Of the few appearances Palmer has made on senior level I have probably seen a quarter. The player he is most similar IMO is Kai but the Leverkusen one. He has the same swagger and elegance with ability for spectacular goals but is lanky and weak af. Good end speed but average acceleration and balance. What palmer hopefully offers is goals. He has scored in about every match on development and youth level and also in the two super cup games this season but never in PL. At age 21 he is a gamble mostly bc of how little he has played. Kai at that age already had over 100 pro games. I hope Palmer still has the Hunger after winning CL and PL as bit part player but if he wants the move he probably has. Yes, I see him a bit Kai-esque as well, but on a fraction of his wages (currently he's on 25k pw), he is a much better investment than keeping Kai around and hoping for the 'transformation'. Guessing Palmer would go on to 50k like Madueke / Gallagher on a long term contract vs Kai was on £300k pw for us and seemed to be pretty much run out of steam development wise at a level that wasn't cutting it. I think it is a decent potential signing but not one we should get crazy excited about, no more than we are about Carney at least. Useful squad player who will have a real shot at breaking into the lineup, like Carney did. Present moment squad situation may mean he would get his chance almost immediately too. Edited August 30, 2023 by Mhsc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,823 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Norfolkblue1961, Mhsc, Fernando and 1 other 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,069 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Mhsc said: Yes, I see him a bit Kai-esque as well, but on a fraction of his wages (currently he's on 25k pw), he is a much better investment than keeping Kai around and hoping for the 'transformation'. Guessing Palmer would go on to 50k like Madueke / Gallagher on a long term contract vs Kai was on £300k pw for us and seemed to be pretty much run out of steam development wise at a level that wasn't cutting it. I think it is a decent potential signing but not one we should get crazy excited about, no more than we are about Carney at least. Useful squad player who will have a real shot at breaking into the lineup, like Carney did. Present moment squad situation may mean he would get his chance almost immediately too. How times have changed, squad players are ranging between £40 and £50 million. Mhsc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,109 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 I do wonder what the long term plan is. Are we going to call it "done" after Cole and just add say ~1 big signing a year that enhances the XI? That seems hard to believe given we've got so many senior people who manage the squad. Our team is so young and stacked with talent that needs time to grow, we could be planning to pretty much stop doing business for a long time, or we might be planning to buy and sell a bunch every year, selling off people that have had their shot and not reached the level we want and replace them with the new U21 prospect we've scouted, or someone from the loan army that's grown a lot. Just hard to visualise what next summer might look like. Could imagine we could be selling Madueke, Gallagher, Ugochukwu, Carney, <insert random list of players - all respect to that list I just gave just wanted to pick some names for sake of argument> and replacing them with Angelo, Santos, etc from the loan army and then buy a new crop to loan out and perhaps the odd big signing to improve the XI? Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,823 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Cole done Strike, Mhsc, Fernando and 1 other 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,507 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Just now, ZAPHOD2319 said: Cole done I would be more excited for this if we didn't sign Noni already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,109 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Just now, ZAPHOD2319 said: Cole done Well fuck! Blink and you miss it, sometimes we really don't fuck around. Some regulars probably haven't even finished work yet and going to login and be like "who the fuck is Cole Palmer?" Welcome aboard Cole please score against City and do a massive run to Pep to slide on your knees right in front of him celebrating furiously Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,109 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, LAM09 said: How times have changed, squad players are ranging between £40 and £50 million. Yeah it is bonkers but transfer values also are a bit related to salaries, if he is going to accept say 50k pw like Madueke/Gallagher is on then overall the spend annualised over his time here will be pretty cheap tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,578 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 That's was quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,983 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Well he looks 10x better than Noni.. I think the club have realised Madueke just isn't the one. bigbluewillie and dimmas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,823 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Oh lawt DDA and Mhsc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, TheHulk said: I would be more excited for this if we didn't sign Noni already. noni is ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,109 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 GKs Sanchez+Petrovic RBs Reece+Malo RCBs Disasi+Silva LCBs Colwill+Badiashile LBs Chilwell+Maatsen Pivot Enzo+Lavia Pivot Caicedo+Ugochukwu LAM Mudryk+Palmer SS Nkunku+Carney+Gallagher RAM Sterling+Madueke CF Jackson+Broja 23 not including Chalobah who I'm assuming is off, or Fofana who is broken, or the many randomers (Bettinelli) and kids we've got around the place that I'm assuming don't count in the target number based on Poch's previous comments. About what we were aiming for. I'm still concerned we don't have enough goals in the team but a lot will depend on so many players and how they work out. Maybe some people will emerge as big goal scorers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheHulk 2,507 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mhsc said: GKs Sanchez+Petrovic RBs Reece+Malo RCBs Disasi+Silva LCBs Colwill+Badiashile LBs Chilwell+Maatsen Pivot Enzo+Lavia Pivot Caicedo+Ugochukwu LAM Mudryk+Palmer SS Nkunku+Carney+Gallagher RAM Sterling+Madueke CF Jackson+Broja 23 not including Chalobah who I'm assuming is off, or Fofana who is broken, or the many randomers (Bettinelli) and kids we've got around the place that I'm assuming don't count in the target number based on Poch's previous comments. About what we were aiming for. I'm still concerned we don't have enough goals in the team but a lot will depend on so many players and how they work out. Maybe some people will emerge as big goal scorers. We bought Palmer to play on right though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mhsc 1,109 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Just now, TheHulk said: We bought Palmer to play on right though. Yeah we'll see I guess, Sterling was also predominantly LW historically so maybe they'll switch to play inverted, or maybe we want a rightie on the right and a leftie on the left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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