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[DDA 9,924]

Jorginho is bang average like but to give Arsenal that wealth of experience when they are on a title charge is strange. You can't see it as a clever move for us whatsoever. 

[Mário César 1,232]

1 minute ago, DDA said:

Jorginho is bang average like but to give Arsenal that wealth of experience when they are on a title charge is strange. You can't see it as a clever move for us whatsoever. 

jorginho is a good player in the right context

for us it is short so playing in arsenal is the best for us. he don't have legs anymore. not good enought

 

[Vesper 30,091]

1 minute ago, DDA said:

Jorginho is bang average like but to give Arsenal that wealth of experience when they are on a title charge is strange. You can't see it as a clever move for us whatsoever. 

its a plus £15m move for 3 and a half or so months of play

£12m fee gained and £3m owed in salary poofed 

[DDA 9,924]

I guess if you're looking at the financial of the move... it's a plus... I just hate any of our players joining those fuckers even if all the Arsenal lads at work are pissed off by it.

Edited January 31, 2023 by DDA

[Artandur 939]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

its a plus £15m move for 3 and a half or so months of play

£12m fee gained and £3m owed in salary poofed 

Probably even 1-2m on top if they win the pl

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

its a plus £15m move for 3 and a half or so months of play

£12m fee gained and £3m owed in salary poofed 

I see it the same way. Financially sound to get rid of a players with little left to offer a few months early with a nice sum on top is smart busines. 
Some ppl act like he is gonna fire Arsenal to the PL title on his own. I mean come on. They worked that 8 pt gap without him. If they are gonna somehow stage an epic collapse how is Jorginho gonna prevent it? We lost so many leads with him on the pitch, its comical. If they are gonna give that title up it will be bc of losing the big games, esp the  city games. What good will Jorginho do them there chasing after the ball in his trademark slow motion?

the only thing I will miss is his pen conversion rate. Watch us suddenly miss those 

[Vesper 30,091]

1 minute ago, Artandur said:

Probably even 1-2m on top if they win the pl

I am ruthless when it comes to selling players I am not invested in emotionally or rationally

if people want to objurgate the club about the sale, blame the old regime's shit contractual management, which has fucking just decimated us over the years and may well light us on fire with Mount

[Jype 6,398]

10 minutes ago, Vesper said:

its a plus £15m move for 3 and a half or so months of play

£12m fee gained and £3m owed in salary poofed 

Yep, it's no doubt already good deal even if we don't get a replacement in. 

And if Enzo comes it will be a brilliant piece of business to sell Jorginho. Enzo would probably play as many games as possible and Jorginho would be reduced to a backup and I'd say £15M is a hell of a lot money for a backup midfielder who'd start at most around 5 games and maybe a further 10-15 sub appearances between now and the end of the season before leaving on a free.

Edited January 31, 2023 by Jype

[Vesper 30,091]

1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said:

the only thing I will miss is his pen conversion rate. Watch us suddenly miss those 

we can always buy (if we pass on my preferred overall options) my favourite homegrown CF target

the auto pen machine

 

[robsblubot 3,595]

Dunno if right, but I see Enzo as a clear long-term replacement for Kante, not Jorginho, not in terms of quality, but in characteristics esp.

 

[Vesper 30,091]

Some Arsenal fans are outraged with Jorginho joining – and #EduOut is trending

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/some-arsenal-fans-are-outraged-with-jorginho-joining-and-eduout-is-trending

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

7 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Dunno if right, but I see Enzo as a clear long-term replacement for Kante, not Jorginho, not in terms of quality, but in characteristics esp.

 

Has a skillset that can do it all, but I think to really get the best out of him, needs to be partnered with a traditional defensive midfielder. 

[Vesper 30,091]

1 minute ago, robsblubot said:

Dunno if right, but I see Enzo as a clear long-term replacement for Kante, not Jorginho, not in terms of quality, but in characteristics esp.

 

Enzo is a dramatically different style of player than Kante

vastly more creative, vastly better offensively

he is not a berserker wrecking ball like Kante, unfortunately (so few have been in football the last 30 years)

BUT

Enzo can quite possibly be a Modric/Pirlo style/level deep lying playmaker/DMF but who also can carry the ball forward and score a goal at times, far more than Kante or Kova or Jorgi

he, from all I have seen, has superb spatial game flow awareness, a pre-conception for moves to come

and he has a deffo hard Argie edge about him

 

[Vesper 30,091]

7 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Has a skillset that can do it all, but I think to really get the best out of him, needs to be partnered with a traditional defensive midfielder. 

like, oh, I don't know...

perhaps the bloke Rashford stole his goal celebration move from

the one we fucking turned down for 40-45m euros or so in 2021 (when I was climbing walls screaming to BUY) because our ratchet ass scouts and the board said he was not ready, not good enough then

 

Edited January 31, 2023 by Vesper

[robsblubot 3,595]

8 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Has a skillset that can do it all, but I think to really get the best out of him, needs to be partnered with a traditional defensive midfielder. 

 

7 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Enzo is a dramatically different style of player than Kante

vastly more creative, vastly better offensively

he is not a berserker wrecking ball like Kante, unfortunately (so few have been in football the last 30 years)

BUT

Enzo can quite possibly be a Modric/Pirlo style/level deep lying playmaker/DMF but who also can carry the ball forward and score a goal at times, far more than Kante or Kova or Jorgi

he, from all I have seen, has superb spatial game flow awareness, a pre-conception for moves to come

and he has a deffo hard Argie edge about him

 

Interesting. I have to confess I haven't seen that much skill on the ball so far, nor the passing quality needed for a possession game, but I haven't seen enough of him.
If that's the case, then he'd be an even better signing than I anticipated. 🤤

Edited January 31, 2023 by robsblubot