TheHulk 2,482 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Costa19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hashishi 148 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Anyone feel like we'll get both and miss out on enzo? Costa19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, Hashishi said: Anyone feel like we'll get both and miss out on enzo? Caicedo + Enzo and we are set for a decade! Vesper and kexik 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,226 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 hours ago, ulvhedin said: Also though Guehi and Tomori are capable of having very good match now and then, they are not so great on regular basis. They would be heavily exposed in Chelsea. Here are the only CBs I can say are atm world class in play (or near it) Thiago Silva plus Rúben Dias Josko Gvardiol Marquinhos Milan Skriniar Ronald Araújo Matthijs de Ligt Virgil van Dijk David Alaba Presnel Kimpembe José María Giménez (when fully fit, which is hardly ever, lol) potentially Alessandro Bastoni plus William Saliba Nico Schlotterbeck Evan Ndicka Cristian Romero Jurrien Timber Benoît Badiashile Wesley Fofana (massive IF, that being IF he ever fully recovers back to pre injury form) Mohamed Simakan Piero Hincapié Gonçalo Inácio fallen off Raphaël Varane Antonio Rüdiger Aymeric Laporte Kalidou Koulibaly Leonardo Bonucci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Mendy easiest to offload. kexik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Superblue said: I can't see a situation where we have headed into January looking like top 4 is pretty much out of the picture and gone on to spend what we have with a backdrop of breaking FFP. I'm sure there would be contingencies in place at the club for missing out on the top 4 as it's unlikely to happen this season. Personally I think there will be a clear out in the summer which will give rise to being able to go again in the market if they choose to. Jorginho will almost certainly leave in the summer and I think Pulisic and Ziyech will both be sold too with a year left on their deals. That just there is £20-25m of FFP costs per annum cleared off the books, and based on the age profile and contract lengths we have been targeting, probably gives rise to 2-3 big signings that can be done to replace those costs. I think depending on interest in the market, one of the keepers, Auba and Koulibaly will all be moved on too and then I do think it's up in the air with regards to Havertz and Gallagher, particularly as we can probably fetch decent fees for both. Releasing Jorginho and managing somehow to sell Pulisic and Ziyech for fees that at minimum match their remaining book values would free up much more than £20-25M a year in FFP costs. Jorginho: £10M in amortisation + £6M in salary = £16M a year Pulisic: £10M in amortisation + £8M in salary = £18M a year Ziyech: £7M in amortisation + £5M in salary = £12M a year Successfully bin them all and we're looking at a minimum of £45M a year in FFP cost savings. To do this, we'd need to get at least £25M combined fees for Pulisic and Ziyech to cover their remaining amortisation values and would also need to get their salaries off the wage bill for good so no wage compensations to their new clubs. Probably not going to be easy considering their recent form and clubs knowing we want to get rid of them but also doesn't seem impossible. That right there is just about enough for three new signings at £50-60M each on six year deals with wages of £100-150K a week. It's funny how in the eyes of FFP calculations selling three players for a total £25M allows for spending £150-180M on their replacements without the FFP total costs changing one bit. That's something most rival fans moaning about the club's transfer activity don't even realize. And like you said on top of that we have a few decent assets we could look into selling (for example Gallagher) and because there's no previous amortisation costs involved with club-trained players any fees gained from these kind of sales would go straight into the spending cap and would, at least in the short term, lessen the financial impact of having no CL football next season. Don't think FFP will be a problem but of course all this relies on having some level of success in getting rid of the previous dud signings. If we fail to find new clubs for Auba, Ziyech, Pulisic etc. there is potential for some trouble there, at least as far as making any new signings in the summer goes. Superblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,953 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 I’m assuming Arse signing Trossard means it’s extremely unlikely we’ll be able to get Caicedo this month. Selling 2 of their best players midseason could massively disrupt things when they’re going well. If that’s the case I think we must wait until the summer to address the midfield. Don’t panic buy some average guy like Alvarez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, TheHulk said: So that means Colwill likely to be going out the door in the summer if we make this move happen? Granted he would still have to come here and get in the team but I think most are hopeful Colwill would be a part of the squad next season. These sort of deals where we go and buy 2 or 3 players under 23 of the same profile is going to block the pathway for some of our more promising academy kids. 4 hours ago, Pizy said: What’s the punishment for breaching FFP anyways? A small fine like City were slapped with? I doubt our owners (or really any multibillionaire owner) is sweating heavily and losing sleep over FFP any longer. The irony is, for us its fine to criticise when other clubs breach it but now we could be in a situation where we do the exact same. Its intriguing to see what happens with no CL football because I have no doubts we will be finishing in and around 7–10th place this season. Theres too much to do to catch the other teams and the manager has hardly made a good impression to show that we can catch these teams. Edited January 19, 2023 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 We won't be getting Gvardiol. Use that money wisely fuck sake... we have 2 LCBs Concentrate on midfield now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Ooooo mystery midfielder to be signed Thursday night. Dum dum duuuuuuum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Yup we should bin the idea of signing Gvardiol and take back Colwill instead. Use the money on a new midfield pair (Caicedo + Enzo). Enzo paired with a supportive midfielder would be unreal and a Rolls Royce for a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Ooooo mystery midfielder to be signed Thursday night. Dum dum duuuuuuum No name mentioned? does that happen any more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Ooooo mystery midfielder to be signed Thursday night. Dum dum duuuuuuum Imba some 16y old future prospect 😂 Btw, today night or next week? If next week, nice hedging lol Edited January 19, 2023 by Costa19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,953 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Been pointed out on Twitter that we aren’t allowed to have another player in on loan as we already have 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 @TheHulk Finally we can see how reliable these jokers are 😂👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Costa19 said: @TheHulk Finally we can see how reliable these jokers are 😂👍 there are restrictions on how many players Premier League clubs can loan from other Premier League/English clubs. They are: - Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time. The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time. - Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window. - A Premier League club may loan not more than one of its goalkeepers to another Premier League club. Edited January 19, 2023 by YorkshireBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: 9 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: deleted Edited January 19, 2023 by YorkshireBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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